Hi everyone, I've started working on the Anti-Unlimited site called UMA or Unlimited Myth Awareness (still open to name changes if you have a suggestion :D ) . Its going to be somewhat like Tina's of affordable host's www.unlimitedtransfer.com site except have more detail, and going into unlimited space, ect. In the months I've been a member of WHT, I've read some really good reasons and explanations of why "unlimited" isn't possible, and arguments (some times flames :D ). Well, I was thinking about just copying and pasting some of the posts I read but decided someone might get mad or whatever ;) , so I need your help.

This is what I need from you and feel free to copy and paste it from another thread if you wrote it, of course you / your company will get credit for it and a link:

Reasons Unlimited Bandwidth is not possible.
Reasons Unlimited Space is not possible.
Unlimited Horror stories.
Arguments to give the Unlimited host, (What if I back up my server on yours for 10 bucks a month?)

ANYTHING else you would like to have put on there.

Thanks a million
:cartman:

How about UNLIMITED good stories?
Not every company who provides unlimited of something is so bad.

I know people that used a whole lot of resources on a unlimited host and they are still active.

Palm, that does not matter, Unlimited is an impossible goal, everything has limits, if you get right down to it, unlimited is false advertising, plain and simple. The internet is just too new to have a legal clensing soto speak. The webhosting industry eventually will have a landmark case which a client wins against a company offering unlimited bandwidth, just like the lady who sued Mc Donalds for the hot coffee incident, now every coffee cup has visible warnings that its hot.

Originally posted by Palm
I know people that used a whole lot of resources on a unlimited host and they are still active.

Yeah, and I know someone who has claimed to see Bigfoot. :rolleyes:

Would love to hear the actual facts on this site that used alot of resources and their host.

--Tina

I've sent you a PM with more info from this end....

Please enable email in your profile as we'd like to avoid mass amounts of PM'ed you posts (wink deb) :D

Hmmm well how else do you expect me to get my post count back up to where it was many moons ago ? *grin*

To explain -- after realizing Chicken is correct that a post like mine serves no value... I had originally written a "post" but prior to hitting submit realized that it may be edited due to the links it contained for further information concerning this subject. So in haste I removed the content and posted what I did instead.... I'm slowly learning all of the new rules. A year away has proven to be a lifetime in some areas... I'm admittedly surprised at how careful I need to be with what I type... slowly but surely I'll figure it out :)

Originally posted by Palm

Not every company who provides unlimited of something is so bad.

I agree. For example, in the US, you can make unlimited local calls for a fixed cost. Many cable modem and DSL providers offer unlimited bandwidth for home and small business users as well.

The fact is, unlimited can be quite positive. It's just that some people expect to install Ultimate Bulletin Board or other heavy CGI scripts on their 5 bucks per month unlimited bandwidth account, and then push 10 GB of dynamic content. The fact is, bandwidth on thse hosts may be unlimited, but hardware certainly isn't -- in other words, you can run up quite heavy bandwidth usage with file downloads etc, but if you use too many CPU resources, they will be forced to disconnect you not for bandwidth usage reasons, but for other reasons such as your heavy usage of CPU resources is slowing down other sites on the same server.

Originally posted by Deb
...slowly but surely I'll figure it out :)

Don't worry about it too much, heh, I know you mean well. I've moved this thread to where it probably should have been posted in the first place, so you (and anyone else) can respond directly.

I have a site like you have mentioned, maybe we can all have a network together!

www.unlimband.com

Its still in the works, but has enough information up that I launched. Also, I am working on a review engine as well as a rating system.

Polls are also going to be going up soon, and maybe we can get some input from both hosting customers, and operators.

Jim

This isn't specifically related to proffessional webhosting companies but I feel it's a valid comment in any case.

I run the hosting department of flagrun.net (new gaming site), our servers are playnet's and using their resources, including bandwidth. We incurr no charges of any kind for use of the server in any way. As such, we can safely offer unlimited bandwidth, because playnet brings in large revenue streams, and has allowed us to do so.

Granted, if we find that a high resource site is not contributing to flagrun, we will either tell them to tone it down, or do a little more to help. However this is not the sort of thing where we just cut off an account because we don't like how much of the system resources it uses.

As I said though, this does not apply to proffessional hosting companies, because we only host approved [by us] gaming related sites.

This may not pertain to many people, but I thought it was worth pointing out.

You guys have too much time on your hands. There's a fine line between disliking unlimited bandwidth deals and being a fanatic, and you guys are coming close.

:)

Originally posted by mikeknoxv
. . . . .you guys are coming close. . . . To what?? :eek:
"Disliking;" or "being fanatical?"

:D

Originally posted by rewdog
. . . .ANYTHING else you would like to have put on there. . . .I would think you should have something on the effect that your views on unlimited are your views on unlimited.
Although you state that it is impossible; it is your opinion that it is impossible.
Where there are some that say the universe is unlimited with no boundaries; others will argue that there are in fact limits (or boundaries) yet undiscovered.
But, then, "unlimited bandwidth" is surely limited to available bandwidth.
While "unlimited diskspace" is surely limited to available diskspace.

hmm. . . .Please disregard my "universe" analogy :rolleyes:


:D

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
To what?? :eek:
"Disliking;" or "being fanatical?"

:D

You know already :scatter:

I would like to add that I have had good experience with an unlimited host. After pushing 50 gigabytes of transfer in half a month through a $20 account, the host called me, and after some negotiations we agreed to go upto a higher unlimited plan (where it's still costing me less than $.50 a gigabyte). The host never cut me off, and offered me a virtual/dedicated server in place of the virtual plan I had been on. I would be happy to contribute good stories :).

I would like to add that I have had good experience with an unlimited host. After pushing 50 gigabytes of transfer in half a month through a $20 account, the host called me, and after some negotiations we agreed to go upto a higher unlimited plan (where it's still costing me less than $.50 a gigabyte). The host never cut me off, and offered me a virtual/dedicated server in place of the virtual plan I had been on. I would be happy to contribute good stories .

If you were pushing 50 GIGs of Bandwidth on an Unlimited Plan....then you should be able to push much much more...an Unlimited Amount, if they advertise it.

How can you say a "Higher Unlimited Plan" you cant get higher than Unlimited...if they say unlimited...they better back it up. If I had Yahoo.com, and placed it on a $20/year service with unlimited bandwidth....in theory, they have to support it. (all 1,000 GIGs a month of it)

Its all messed up...please help add to my site: www.unlimband.com

Jim

You were lucky Eric
Is it still $75 for unlimited? (50gigs plus)