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Reddrake
11-26-2003, 10:27 PM
Hello users of wht.

Reddrake launched a new website
http://www.reddrake.net However its load is quite exclusive.
For broadband users will have less of a problem. However dialup users can take up to 40 seconds! Any ideas? I heard preloading may help but I don't really see how.

After they view the site once there cache holds most the images anyway but I need to make the first load the fast load!

Regards,
Brian

Reddrake
11-26-2003, 10:41 PM
Suggestions?

MikeM
11-26-2003, 11:45 PM
Your page is 14889 bytes .. thats huge .. try optimising your code

Two different flash's <--- that kills load time ..

use external css to format your page ..

Synthetic
11-26-2003, 11:46 PM
If you really want to improve the site's loading time then I'm afraid the best solution is to remove the flash animation and replace it with a static header image. Then you could include a link to the flash intro and have it open in a new window, so that visitors still have a chance to view it.

Images could also be further compressed, HTML code condensed, and the entire table structure could be redone in a way that would help decrease the page file, but all of this probably isn't necessary as the main cause of the poor loading time is the flash file. And in my opinion a 14889 bytes page file isn't all that big... seems okay to me.

Reddrake
11-26-2003, 11:49 PM
Its good for most people dialup users is the killer.
I will see how much more I can compress the flash header with out losing quality.

Saryooo
11-26-2003, 11:54 PM
I am a Dialup user, yes ture it take much time for loading, i suggest try to reduce pictures and make clips in flash or any other illustration programe.

Saryooo
11-26-2003, 11:56 PM
and not add sound in header flash...

Steve Saw
11-26-2003, 11:56 PM
I just went to the site and received 4 pop up live-chat windows before I could even load the page (which never happened, since I closed it before I got any more pop ups). I don't know if that's a Mac thing or what, but I figured you would want to know about it.

Reddrake
11-26-2003, 11:58 PM
That was interesting! I do believe its a mac problem. Another user running on a mac had that as well. I will contact the software company.

airnine
11-27-2003, 05:26 AM
Hi Reddrake!

you seem to have some trouble with your page loading,

well there are many things you could to, because basically what you want to do, is display information fast, so you want everybody to see the important stuff first and the rest of it later

this will have no effect in DSL users like me who had no problem loading your page, but those with 56k modem or wireless computing will feel much better

have you thought of loading your images after the page has already loaded, this could help you a lot

and the trick with the flash is that you ought to give it a delay and this is only a few seconds, so your textual content gets loaded, you can calculate this easily

nevertheless, pardon me for saying so, but whoever designed your page made a poor choice of some imagery output,

you have considerable amount of big images with little graphics on it and possibly plain text!, you should have gone for structured tables and little images few by few pixels in size repeating them selves in the background, that would have eased the page size considerably

then again, it is good for you, you don't have to care about how much traffic you make, so it's really no issue having an index page of 247kB plus the flash file, but if you put some things the way I described, it would be more accessible for the snail access folks

nevertheless, I would not be counting on returning visitor and image caching, because you own a hosting company, people will come perhaps once, twice –they will either conduct their business or not - and not hundreds of times

I hope I helped

good luck

Airnine

CyberAlien
11-27-2003, 05:29 AM
Flash is huge. And i do hate sound on pages. I suggest to get rid of sound.

Also page sais encoding is windows-1251 - i suggest you fix this (its on 4th line). IE might ask visitors to download cyrillic language pack when it sees that line.

airnine
11-27-2003, 05:34 AM
sound can be switched off

upper left corner

CyberAlien
11-27-2003, 08:28 AM
yes, i know. but it is still annoying. i think sound should not be on business websites. it is good for kids websites and some showoff websites, but not for business.

airnine
11-27-2003, 08:57 AM
in the effort to show what kind of stuff we can do, we sometimes overdose it, I guess the sound in that matter could be seen in described aspect, but it all started with a wish to demonstrate the powerfull servers, technology and great connections

might rethink it

Airnine

vito
11-27-2003, 09:14 AM
Yes, your biggest problem is indeed the Flash Intro. Not to mention the fact that it is annoying to most people to be blasted with uninvited motion/sound, it is the main reason for your slow page.

I too have a Flash Intro on my home page. The main difference is that I don't impose it on my visitors. I have a "Play Intro" button in the header. So the page will load quicker, and you don't turn off the masses by forcing them to watch/hear something that they may not want.

Vito

Reddrake
11-27-2003, 11:30 AM
The sound and intro is only on the index page. I suppose I can modify the intro to play only when told to.

Thanks for the tips, I will take your suggestions in the highest regards :)

Reddrake
11-27-2003, 04:08 PM
I removed the flash intro for now and put the non-introed header. Back to the drawing board. Hows the load now?

CyberAlien
11-27-2003, 05:54 PM
Much better. Loads faster, not sound.

xyzulu
11-27-2003, 07:51 PM
I like the look of your site. :) Nice and fast for me - 512 DSL so sites usually are.

Reddrake
11-27-2003, 10:46 PM
Great I am glad its better. I miss the intro :(

airnine
11-28-2003, 06:05 AM
I think it's bad you left all that flash out, after all someone must have spent hours on it,

shame you haven't added a little link play intro or something,

the intro was very cool, those 3D rolling servers and stuff, cool enough for me

how come you didn't go for 'after page load' flash load or a little delay as I wrote before?

Reddrake
11-28-2003, 12:55 PM
I am still working on it as stated.