Aloha
JayC brought up a good point
so took it out

Their server's kinda busy though.
They sent that email to over 1,300,000 people.

Aloha
OH yeah very busy
figure though it may be worth a shot ;)
I am not getting through ;(
so sad

Bah. Spammers suck. Spammers who try to capitalize on one of the greatest tragedies their own nation, if not the world, has faced suck beyond words.

So it's ok to spam because thousands of people just died? It's ok to spam because you're giving something away free, to attract people to your products? I give up; why is this spam ok?


Look, do what you want. But personally I sincerely hope that no one here is supporting a company that would stoop to this.

Oh yeah, but if you want a really good deal they do offer "unlimited" web hosting.

Originally posted by JayC
Bah. Spammers suck. Spammers who try to capitalize on one of the greatest tragedies their own nation, if not the world, has faced suck beyond words.

So it's ok to spam because thousands of people just died? It's ok to spam because you're giving something away free, to attract people to your products? I give up; why is this spam ok?


Look, do what you want. But personally I sincerely hope that no one here is supporting a company that would stoop to this.

Oh yeah, but if you want a really good deal they do offer "unlimited" web hosting.

Aloha
yeah
good point I guess to market your product on behalf of a tragedy is not that good
very good point mr JayC ;)

I can do worse than that.......

Today I got some spam from a company that has a quick 4 line text message wishing the best for the victims, and families etc.. Right under that was a 60k spam e-mail in full html telling me the importance of... believe it or not... life insurance. and how I could contact them at any time to give them money to make sure my family was safe in case of disaster...

I found it hard not to spit on my monitor as I sent it to the trash file.

Greg Moore

Originally posted by JayC
Bah. Spammers suck. Spammers who try to capitalize on one of the greatest tragedies their own nation, if not the world, has faced suck beyond words.
JayC,

As we've counselled on so many things relating to this I think perhaps forebearance and a little understanding re: CoffeeCup.

I would not be surprised to hear that the CEO in question has already made a sizeable donation himself and would not wish, in any shape or form, to profit from this event. Were you to make such a claim known to him personally I believe he would probably be horrified and already it sounds like he's trying to make good. I wouldn't be surprised if he does a great deal to ensure that only the Red Cross profit (if that's the right word) from this.

As with all things, patience... Life goes on.


EDIT: That said, I too am pretty horrified by other emails that are now doing the rounds from con artists and those looking to make a fast buck. They will be consigned to my kill list henceforth

Originally posted by WebSnail.net

I would not be surprised to hear that the CEO in question has already made a sizeable donation himself and would not wish, in any shape or form, to profit from this event. Were you to make such a claim known to him personally I believe he would probably be horrified and already it sounds like he's trying to make good. I wouldn't be surprised if he does a great deal to ensure that only the Red Cross profit (if that's the right word) from this.Sorry, I don't buy it. If he wanted nothing for his own company, why even identify himself as the CEO of any company? If you want to spam on behalf of a charity, mention only their name and your own. This is even a small company that most of the recipients of his spam have never heard of, so it's not like it would carry some kind of "credibility" as it might if he were the CEO of IBM or Microsoft. In fact the only reason to say what company he owns is to publicize the company, and to attempt to position them as goodhearted and charitable (even while calling for "annihilation," but that's another discussion).

Giving away a copy of one of their software products isn't going to motivate people to give more; it's only a way to get their heretofore little known products into more hands.

Whether he's made a donation himself is immaterial.


I'm not calling for any retribution for the guy, so if it's all innocent and just not well thought out on his part, so be it. I'm only calling for him and his company not to profit from it. If that's really what he wants, he and I are in accord. In order for the company not to profit, do not use their products unless you would have done so anyway. Make your contributions directly to the charity or relief organization of your choice.

Aloha

JayC has a very good point above
one I thought of and I guess was hoping not to have confirmed ;(
but the more i think of it it is most likely true.
it could be he truley cares and only ment it to get more redcross banners out there because to get the software you had to put up a redcross banner (had nothing about his company a legit RC banner)
so it is hard to say which way he was thinking ???
guess he could have said on behalf oc al of us at CC software
the list was his subscriber list (which I am on)

Ok, I'll bow out on this one.

Just playing devils advocate I guess. I'd be interested to see if we do ever get any information back on how it plays our with CC though.

Cheers

Originally posted by Honu
the list was his subscriber list (which I am on) No reason I should be on it, and I've never used their software. But I got it (the first one at least. I don't remember seeing the second one that backtracks on the call for violence, but I might have just deleted it without a thought).

SWR said it went to 1.3 million people, but I don't know... where'd that number come from?

Originally posted by WebSnail.net
Ok, I'll bow out on this one.

Just playing devils advocate I guess. I'd be interested to see if we do ever get any information back on how it plays our with CC though.

Cheers

Aloha
yup as ya said earlier ya never know we will have to wait and see

Originally posted by JayC
... where'd that number come from? http://www.coffeecup.com/attack/comments.txt

But, actually, I believe I was mistaken. As he was referring to his original email whereby he was calling for the complete annihilation of the perpetrators.

It is a better insight to his motives all in all.

Thanks for posting that link.

I have to say, reading it all and "listening" to his comments I can't help but feel abject pity for the guy as someone who hasn't realised that his own country has contributed to acts of terrorism in the past, has caused similar pain to that which he is feeling.

If he could understand that his simple "need" involves lashing out without sparing a thought for the small children with their own raggedy Ann doll in this country that he's not naming. The children who would die if his urges were given the chance to become reality.

Personally I'd prefer to boycott his products from this point forward, because if his feelings become the norm without thought or time for the consequences then I want no part of his "civilisation".