Yea, its not another "OMG THEY SUCK!" thread or a "there this that and the other"

Im just wondering if any customers, or even managed.com themselves would be willing to post up an IP that we can ping, as well as a test file for us to get speeds.

I notice that each server has a 100mbit port, bit since they only have two gige connections. Once they get some business, there going to get slow..?

Anyway, IP anyone? :D

Originally posted by England
Yea, its not another "OMG THEY SUCK!" thread or a "there this that and the other"

Im just wondering if any customers, or even managed.com themselves would be willing to post up an IP that we can ping, as well as a test file for us to get speeds.

I notice that each server has a 100mbit port, bit since they only have two gige connections. Once they get some business, there going to get slow..?

Anyway, IP anyone? :D



Hello,

You can try 66.79.161.10, 66.79.161.20, 66.79.161.30, etc...


Best Regards...

Originally posted by England
Yea, its not another "OMG THEY SUCK!" thread or a "there this that and the other"

Im just wondering if any customers, or even managed.com themselves would be willing to post up an IP that we can ping, as well as a test file for us to get speeds.

I notice that each server has a 100mbit port, bit since they only have two gige connections. Once they get some business, there going to get slow..?

Anyway, IP anyone? :D
I've been using a provider that provides 100mbit ports, and have never had a problem relating to the fact that too much bandwidth was being used at once because of the 100Mbps ports (this provider had/has less than 2Gbps capacity). Many providers give 100Mbps ports, and usually do NOT run into problems.

- Matt

Just got my welcome e-mail. You can ping 66.79.161.130. I don't have content on the server yet.

Not good, I get packet loss on the assertivenetworks.net network :(

14 87 ms 89 ms 88 ms so-0-0-0.er10a.sjc2.us.above.net
15 87 ms 88 ms 88 ms209.66.79.101.available.assertivenetworks.net
16 135 ms 136 ms * 66-154-102-5.assertivenetworks.net
17 * 175 ms 99 ms 66.79.161.130

Don't see it from my point.. I'm in FL too. Wow I just noticed they added my reverse DNS! I just requested that less than 10 minutes ago in an e-mail to support.


13 90 ms 115 ms 91 ms so-0-0-0.er10a.sjc2.us.above.net [64.125.30.94]

14 99 ms 91 ms 91 ms 209.66.79.101.available.assertivenetworks.net [2
09.66.79.101]
15 116 ms 119 ms 120 ms 66-154-102-5.assertivenetworks.net [66.154.102.5
]
16 104 ms 89 ms 91 ms athena.lee-kelly-hosting.com [66.79.161.130]

Roundtrip time to 66.79.161.130, average = 82ms, min = 78ms, max = 104ms -- 14-Nov-03 8:35:11 PM

from SM server

PING 66.79.161.130 (66.79.161.130) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=57 time=46.2 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=57 time=44.9 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=57 time=44.9 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=4 ttl=57 time=44.9 ms


from Colo4Dallas

PING 66.79.161.130 (66.79.161.130) from XXX: 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=113 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=99.8 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=53 time=94.8 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=4 ttl=53 time=100 ms

From XO
PING 66.79.161.130 (66.79.161.130) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=3.34 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=2.38 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=2.28 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=2.29 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=2.40 ms

From Hong Kong

PING 66.79.161.130 (66.79.161.130) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=166 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=168 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=54 time=167 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=4 ttl=54 time=166 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=5 ttl=54 time=168 ms

From RackShack

PING 66.79.161.130 (66.79.161.130) from XXXXX : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=50.5 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=50.2 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=50.2 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.130: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=50.1 ms

Originally posted by MSG Inc.
Hello,

You can try 66.79.161.10, 66.79.161.20, 66.79.161.30, etc...


Best Regards...

Thank You, nice pings, 60 from my interland server, and im getting 180 average from my home connection in london, to west coast, very nice :)

Any chance of a link for speed test?

Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=55
Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=55
Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=55
Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 66.79.161.10:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 32ms, Maximum = 35ms, Average = 32ms

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

VERY impressive ;)
This is off my home DSL outta the very west coast, Canada.

I think a lot of people are gonna be eating their words over this company ;)

~Francisco

from cogent:
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 77.008/80.049/84.431/2.717 ms
from pacbell:
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/mdev = 58.107/58.994/60.015/0.787 ms

From Pajo:
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 20.404/21.977/24.886/1.565 ms

From Yipes:
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 54.723/55.051/56.016/0.486 ms

also around 73ms from Canada which is pretty good...

So what do you guys think of Managed.Com? Dont you think we all owe them an apology?

Originally posted by Daryl
So what do you guys think of Managed.Com? Dont you think we all owe them an apology?


Gotta wait and see how reliable they are first.

Um, what do pings have to do with anything?

Thats a result of the carriers they chose, and its still way to early to have any kind of opinion on anything.

I still hold my stance.

I have to wonder...
Do you think that the reason "at this time" that they're really doing well (ie: getting servers online, rPTR's, etc) is because of the negative publicity they've received from here?
It would be nice to see this type of service continue..

Originally posted by sassSE
I have to wonder...
Do you think that the reason "at this time" that they're really doing well (ie: getting servers online, rPTR's, etc) is because of the negative publicity they've received from here?
It would be nice to see this type of service continue..
Then I'll definitely jump in!! :D

Originally posted by MSG Inc.
Hello,

You can try 66.79.161.10, 66.79.161.20, 66.79.161.30, etc...


Best Regards...

Managed.com eh? Your dedicated servers are getting as cheap as us web hosting companies :. LOL.

How can you stay in biz with 2.0 Ghz, 80 GB HD, 1200GB transfer @ 55?

hmm. . . google PR 0/10 <--- New Guys eh!

Good Luck.

Nuts!

2.8 Ghz Xeon, 1 GB Ram, 160 GB HD, 1200 GB DataTrasfer @ $185/mo. + Free Setup.

No Ensim :(

Regardless . . . I've never seen such super cheap x 10 prices.

It would take 1 full year just to recover the cost of a Xeon server. Guess you're trying to make money in the long run?

Impressive Name :. Real Company? I don't think so. I'll eMail the support :. see what kind of answers I get.

The xeon isn't an amazing deal; I believe it was posted it is a single processor.

It's marked as a dual. And the cpanel isn't free you pay for it next month. And any server upgrades ie space or ram aren't cheap. Also whats with the new entry deal will bandwith costs also change the 2nd month.

Originally posted by pixel_fenix
It's marked as a dual. And the cpanel isn't free you pay for it next month. And any server upgrades ie space or ram aren't cheap. Also whats with the new entry deal will bandwith costs also change the 2nd month.



If it was infact dual I would think they would show off the Dual much larger :) I'm betting that its dual because of hyper threading :D

The one-time fees aren't horrible for additional hardware.

I'm almost positive their guy who posts here mentioned that the Xeon has only ONE processor in it.

Originally posted by amusive.com
The one-time fees aren't horrible for additional hardware.

I'm almost positive their guy who posts here mentioned that the Xeon has only ONE processor in it.
yep he said that. the dual is because of the ht.

Is this speed good?

From Singapore:

Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=200ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=197ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=193ms TTL=48
Reply from 66.79.161.10: bytes=32 time=210ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 66.79.161.10:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 193ms, Maximum = 210ms, Average = 200ms

This is from ServerMartix Test IP, which i think Managed.com speed is even faster than serverMartix.

Reply from 12.96.160.115: bytes=32 time=242ms TTL=239
Reply from 12.96.160.115: bytes=32 time=243ms TTL=239
Reply from 12.96.160.115: bytes=32 time=230ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.96.160.115: bytes=32 time=254ms TTL=240

Ping statistics for 12.96.160.115:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 230ms, Maximum = 254ms, Average = 246ms

no u cannot compare pings like that. servermatrix is in us central and managed.com(abovenet san jose) is on the west coast. physically abovenet san jose is a lot closer 2u (think of it as half US). so its normal that u get better pings 2 managed.com than 2 servermatrix.

So is there any downloads to test?

Wow, from San Fran to San jose, I get 78ms....and a 172ms spike

mayb some routing problems.

i get 1.67ms from he.net fremont.

actually i dont think ping is so important 2 judge their network. it is already well known that above.net itself is not so good on latency. a speed test should prove more.

So where to do a speed test? I'm really eager to know what is the download speed from US to Asia.

Contact them

Is it normal to use FormMail to submit cc numbers ? (I am just looking at the ordering page)

<FORM action=cgi-bin/FormMail.pl method=post>
<INPUT type=hidden value=sales@managed.com name=recipient>
<INPUT type=hidden value="Intel Celeron Order Form" name=subject>

--
rf

this has already been mentioned, read previous threads. and yes, service is fine. mine has been up 2 days now & is working perfect :)

Hi Mats,

Sorry we don't have test files available for download. Youi'll just
need to run ping test instead.


Best Regards,


Dedicated Hosting Sales
Managed Solutions Group, Inc.
www.managed.com

There they maybe lost a customer.
A ping give often fail results, but a speed test gives the right.

So badly...
if they would provide with testing file it could help for a lot peeps get finnal Decision....

well, there is a buncha people on here that have got a server from them, why don't they just post a file for us to test?

Could you? please? :D

~Francisco

Hi there

I have a server with them and I will be uploading a file for testing soon. I am just busy at the moment and trying to get a hold of their technical support department since 1AM this morning through email and phone. The sadest part is that whenever I try calling on the phone it says that they are busy assisting other customers...I dont know about that because I did try calling them about 20 - 25 times between 1AM and 3AM and the same message that they were assisting other customers unless they only work from 9AM - 5PM and advertise 24/7 on their website :confused:. Anyways I will let you know about the status of the technical support department and will post a file for speed test in a bit.

Regards

Hmm, maybe they really ARE supporting a lot of customers? One of the members on here got a apology email back from them because they weren't able to get the server up before the weekend. I'm sure A LOT of people are giving them a test run since their prices are very impressive.

I'm actually considering their 2.4Ghz server come feb (when my hosting contract goes up). I'm just waiting to hear how everything is later on down the road :)

~Francisco

Maybe they are supporting a lot of customers...I dont know...but maybe...but then again I think they should get some extra staff to be on the customers good side in terms of response time. Like for example server matrix has good network, servers and pricing but their support ticket system is slow throughout the week; however atleast they have a technician waiting for you when you call in and they assist you right away....no hard feelings...I am just trying to give an example here...Their prices are impressive and sales response times are impressive as well. Anyways I will keep you guys updated on this and good luck on your server purchase from there and hope the price still stays when you decide to order the server :)

Originally posted by Daryl
Hi there

I have a server with them and I will be uploading a file for testing soon. I am just busy at the moment and trying to get a hold of their technical support department since 1AM this morning through email and phone. The sadest part is that whenever I try calling on the phone it says that they are busy assisting other customers...I dont know about that because I did try calling them about 20 - 25 times between 1AM and 3AM and the same message that they were assisting other customers unless they only work from 9AM - 5PM and advertise 24/7 on their website :confused:. Anyways I will let you know about the status of the technical support department and will post a file for speed test in a bit.

Regards


Darryl,

What type of support do you need? We need to have a written request (via email) before we can touch your server. This is to prevent any confusions on what needs to be done. We have several different email addresses set up for support --

Manual Reboot -- reboot@managed.com
Reverse DNS -- dns@managed.com
Account Questions -- account@managed.com
Basic Support -- support@managed.com

An added security measure is we require the "from" email address to match with the address listed in the order form. You can also give us the last 4 digits of your credit card to confirm your identity and ownership of this box. This is important because anyone can call us, claim to be Daryl *****, and request we do things to your server that you might not like.

BTW -- We do have people at the NOC 24/7/365. However, the non-business hours staff only monitor the network and provide manual reboot. Technical questions are addressed by network and system engineers during regular business hours only.

Also, server administration are your responsibility. The services that we can provide are listed at https://secure.managed.com/service.htm


Best Regards...

I am kind of new to all of this and have started looking at expanding my business to a dedicated server. I happen to run across this thread and to take a look.

One think I would be concerned about is there doesn't seem to mention who owns this company, or really anything about it. Just the same old blah, blah, blah. There pics show some data center somewhere, but I can't tell you how many pics I have seen of datacenters.

Looking at there website seems very cloak and dagger. Who is the CEO, who's who there? Maybe it's someone who has burt the community before?? Anyone can get a toll-free number (cost $ 10 a/month and put an answering machine on it). Answer the phone during the day and let me speak with the guy that owns the place.

To may hit and run cons in this game (take your money for the first 3/4 months.. things look good, then there gone in a flash).

Prices TOO good to seem true, time will tell. I don't want to risk my clients or their businesses with someone I can't be sure of.

Post some info about your company, for that matter post a name if you want to do business with me.

I am not saying there not for real, maybe, but burn me once, never again. Can someone say Compady? (search for more)

Hi,

I may consider to rent a dedicated server from Managed.com. I am new to dedicated server. I have some questions:

1 "Free Security Patches Update"
Is this mean they update the security patches for their customers on a regular basis or upon customer's request?

2. Kernel / Apache Recompile
What exactly is this mean?

Thanks~

-----------------
seekhosting

Where is their tos?

I've had my server for about 24 hours now. I have been impressed so far. My support e-mails have been answered within 30 minutes. Reverse DNS was done in less than 10 minutes. The server I ordered was the P4 2.4, 1024MB RAM. It has a Western DIgital Special Edition drive in it with 8MB cache. (I was impressed)

If you want a test file you can use
http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip (60MB)

They have definately earned my praise so far.

Originally posted by RogelioH
Where is their tos?


Hello,

SLA and AUP are available at http://www.managed.com/support.htm


Best Regards...

295ms ping time to Jason's server from Australia. No packet loss.

Slightly faster than google.com, slightly slower than yahoo.com (+/- 10ms)

Downloading the file gives me full utilisation of my 512Kbit/s ADSL at around 60Kbyte/s.

100mbit line from Bigpipeinc in Toronto:

bash-2.05a$ wget http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip
--00:14:37-- http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip
=> `Dominica.zip'
Connecting to 66.79.161.131:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 62,877,922 [application/zip]

100%[==================================================================================>] 62,877,922 738.77K/s ETA 00:00

00:16:00 (738.77 KB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

Very impressive speed!
100%[====================================>] 62,877,922 8.16M/s ETA 00:00

22:01:40 (8.16 MB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

This is pulling from Managed to my BurstNET server

Length: 62,877,922 [application/zip]

100%[====================================>] 62,877,922 694.17K/s ETA 00:00

01:18:38 (694.17 KB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

Originally posted by rfauske
Is it normal to use FormMail to submit cc numbers ? (I am just looking at the ordering page)

<FORM action=cgi-bin/FormMail.pl method=post>
<INPUT type=hidden value=sales@managed.com name=recipient>
<INPUT type=hidden value="Intel Celeron Order Form" name=subject>

--
rf

This is again, an exact same practice used by UnitedColo. There were no weird charges on my CC though.

Their prices are really temping, do you guys think that its safe to put paying customer under them?

Only 280kb from exchangecolo

' do you guys think that its safe to put paying customer under them?'

Honestly, I would say, Atleast for now, No!

At the very least give it atleast 2+ weeks until you put a customer on it, and even then make backups every 1-2 days just in case! Only time will tell how this all goes!

Originally posted by eric1234
Their prices are really temping, do you guys think that its safe to put paying customer under them?

I would not put my customers there now to be honest.

Kevin

I have tried the download speed between ServerMatrix and Managed.com, which i find that Managed.com is slightly faster. Is it because Managed.com doesn't have many customers now?

Thats entirely possible.

To servermatrix (10mbit port)

02:27:54 (1.11 MB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]


Seems logical that I'd have gone above 10mbit if I had a faster port...

Only time will tell..I ordered a server about 3am friday I believe. Received an email saying my server was being assembled friday at 5pm. Still no server though... (Times are EST)

I certainly wouldn't put customers on a server there...at least not for a minimum of 1 month; and to be honest...with the fact that these are supposedly the same people behind United Colo, I wouldn't even consider it for business purposes.

1.01 MB/s from here at work

from a server in NOC (pretty sure) i'm only doing ~250KB/sec. From home i'm 350KB/sec. Maybe it's just a weird route.

Even so, pings are EXTREMELY impressive, and speeds are blazing!

Thanks for the test file =)

EDIT - Had a bud at work do a test, he's ~900KB/sec <-- :eek2:

~Francisco

to my he.net server, its locked at 10mbit so probably could get better speeds:

03:02:26 (1.01 MB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

Veary nice speed!
Is it beacuse they don't have so many customers yet?

Originally posted by mnett
Veary nice speed!
Is it beacuse they don't have so many customers yet?

Most likely. Of course everyone will get great speeds since they haven't oversold their network yet.

Speed test of http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip

EV1Servers (100Mbit port): 720.60 KB/s

ServerMatrix (10 Mbit port): 1.08 MB/s

203ms from cable modem, Eindhoven, Netherlands, Europe

from natnet:

18:59:27 (799.53 KB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

31.6 KB/s from Comcast Cable, NJ.
703 KB/s from Nocster - Scranton PA.
849KB/s from Wholesale Internet - Kansas City, MO
521KB/s from ******* - Seattle, Washington. (Server's NIC may be faulty though, as it can't surpass 800KB/s internally)

-Josh

100%[====================================>] 62,877,922 795.04K/s ETA 00:00

21:06:12 (795.04 KB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]


At Dinix in Atlanta, GA

From CO.

33 ping :o

164 Kb/s download (I'm on a wireless AP)

Looks very nice, but for how long?

from he.net fremont. 100mbit almost maxed out.


[root@he speedtest]# wget http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip
--21:22:35-- http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip
=> `Dominica.zip'
Connecting to 66.79.161.131:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 62,877,922 [application/zip]

100%[=================================================================================>] 62,877,922 9.13M/s ETA 00:00

21:22:42 (9.13 MB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

I asked them about that the speed maybe is so good because they don't have many customers:

Hi Mats,

We have a full GigE connection to AboveNet and there's still plenty of
capacity on the network.


Best Regards,

Originally posted by amusive.com
The xeon isn't an amazing deal; I believe it was posted it is a single processor.

It is a single XEON. For additional 1 XEON is $400 one time fee.

15% [===========> ] 9,586,288 465.54K/s ETA 01:51
NAC, NJ

16% [============> ] 10,520,016 546.55K/s ETA 01:33
TMS, Dallas, TX @ Yipes

6% [====> ] 4,153,112 162.63K/s ETA 05:52
Myloca, Malaysia

The speed seems promising, I might consider them 1/2 months later. Want to make sure everything is doing good. :D

In fact, I get good pings to them, or was it because its off peak hour now? How did you guys get spikes?

From EV1Servers.Net download Dominica.zip

100%[====================================>] 62,877,922 1.06M/s ETA 00:00

15:54:35 (1.06 MB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

----------------------------------------------------
From EV1Servers.net ping 66.79.161.131
PING 66.79.161.131 (66.79.161.131) from 64.246.62.xx : 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=50.6 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=50.1 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=50.0 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=50.0 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=5 ttl=56 time=50.0 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=6 ttl=56 time=50.2 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=7 ttl=56 time=50.2 ms
64 bytes from 66.79.161.131: icmp_seq=8 ttl=56 time=50.0 ms
-----------------------------------------------------
From Taiwan HiNet (203.66.88.89) ping 66.79.161.131

Pinging 66.79.161.131 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 66.79.161.131: bytes=32 time=250ms TTL=50
Reply from 66.79.161.131: bytes=32 time=251ms TTL=50
Reply from 66.79.161.131: bytes=32 time=240ms TTL=50
Reply from 66.79.161.131: bytes=32 time=251ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 66.79.161.131:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 240ms, Maximum = 251ms, Average = 248ms
-----------------------------------------------------

rumble@saxsum [~]# wget http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip
--09:10:47-- http://66.79.161.131/Dominica.zip
=> `Dominica.zip'
Connecting to 66.79.161.131:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 62,877,922 [application/zip]

100%[===================================>] 62,877,922 316.63K/s ETA 00:00

09:14:02 (316.63 KB/s) - `Dominica.zip' saved [62877922/62877922]

This is what I get from Telecity2, Amsterdam (the Netherlands)

The pings looks very impressive.

But it is really depends on how much customers they already got ,because once they will have overloaded with customers we will see another pings and another speeds from there's network.

Ofcourse it depends if they will pump up there's network/B.W.

from the Support point of view ,they looks really good ,people here get respones in about 20-30 minutes.

Again ,they still not have over then real test ,we will see them in real test once they will get more customers to take care of at same time.

For would be preferbly EV1 servers and other more advanced companies.

Originally posted by England


I notice that each server has a 100mbit port, bit since they only have two gige connections. Once they get some business, there going to get slow..?



How do you know they have only 2G connections? How many connections ServerMatrix and Server4you have ?

If what they have proclaimed to be true, they have only 1GigE MFN bandwidth (2G is combined bandwidth, 1G MFN and 1G GBLX). As advertised, only AboveNet bandwidth provided at this moment, GBLX isn't with the mix.

Every server with 100mbit port doesn't mean anything if everyone is only using 1mbit/s. With 600 servers, they are only ultilizing 60% of the total bandwidth, therefore, it depends on how the users use the bandwidth.

The ting is, everyone only gets 1TB bandwidth (1.2TB the first month). That's an average of 3mbit/s continuously, wich you wont spike from much, otherwise you'd go over your 1TB limit.

That means if the full 2gbit is used, they would have about 650 customers, and that would make them at least $48.750,- per month, wich would give them enough money to add another pipe :)

I think you're quite safe with 2gbit.. for instance, ev1 has "only" 13gbit or so, and are using about 8.5gbit of it right now, with 18.000 (!!) servers total...

A little math shows that every server uses "only" 0.47mbit/s. And that for instance is a reasonable number for people hosting some websites, and need 150/200gb traffic and want it cheap.. almost nobody uses the full 700gb, because of the servers they use (not suitable for 700gb of normal hosting (php / mysql), and because of the overhead people want to have (for instance, i dont like going over 500gb, because of the risk i might go over the 700, and have to pay extra..

Wooh, long first post, but i hope you undestand my thinking.. :)

Or, to summarize in one word: overselling.

Yes, overselling will do all the long explanation that you had :D

But yea, its IMO, overselling is superbly fine for me as long as they can deliver what is promised anytime when I need it without affecting any performance.

Originally posted by Weppel
The ting is, everyone only gets 1TB bandwidth (1.2TB the first month). That's an average of 3mbit/s continuously, wich you wont spike from much, otherwise you'd go over your 1TB limit.

That means if the full 2gbit is used, they would have about 650 customers, and that would make them at least $48.750,- per month, wich would give them enough money to add another pipe :)


this is totally ridiculous. wut makes u think $48750 a month will "give them enough money to add another pipe " ? do u have any idea how much a gigE costs? $48750 cannot even cover the existing 2 gigE lines. its barely enough for one of them. not to mention all the space,hardware and support cost.

Originally posted by qm8309
this is totally ridiculous. wut makes u think $48750 a month will "give them enough money to add another pipe :)" ? do u have any idea how much a gigE costs? $48750 cannot even cover the existing 2 gigE lines. its barely enough for one of them. not to mention all the space,hardware and support cost.

I could get myself a gigE for about 8000,- a piece over here.. no problem.

If that isnt possible there.. hey, im purely speculating :)

Originally posted by Weppel
I could get myself a gigE for about 8000,- a piece over here.. no problem.

If that isnt possible there.. hey, im purely speculating :)

so would u mind telling us where u can get a gigE for 8000?

I think that is sufficient for 1 GigE :D

But why do we have to do the calculation for them? According to them, they have got several "MBAs" :P

Amusive & UltraUnixNET:

I did not mention the word "overselling" in the case of Managed.com, because i wasnt pointing that way. The math stuff was all about how much servers you can house on 2gbit, and deliver everything as promised (1000gb bandwidth to every single one of them).

The ev1servers math shows indeed overselling, but wasnt used for it though :) i was pointing out that 2gbit is very very good for a starting company, as one of the big boys "only" has 13gbit..

Well, he never said the pipe had to be connected to anything. Or on, for that matter.

Originally posted by qm8309
so would u mind telling us where u can get a gigE for 8000?

Netherlands :) If anyone of you can read dutch, ill post a link to the PDF pricelist :)

Originally posted by Weppel
I could get myself a gigE for about 8000,- a piece over here.. no problem.

If that isnt possible there.. hey, im purely speculating :)

ROFL =)

So you'll be taking over the Net within a few days ?

If you said you would get your local loop for $8k/mo, I'd believe you. But an uncapped GigE circuit towards an upstream POP... cough...

I'd do some more research before making such statements...

Carl

Originally posted by Weppel
Netherlands :) If anyone of you can read dutch, ill post a link to the PDF pricelist :)

I still remember some Dutch; please post the document and the provider's name. Still I'm 1000% sure you can't get a Gbps of FD upstream at such a price. Not in the US, not in Europe, not on the moon.

Carl

Originally posted by amusive.com
Well, he never said the pipe had to be connected to anything. Or on, for that matter.

lol so hes talking about a gigE ethernet card with a cable? hmm that wont even cost 8000.

as for bandwidth, the cheapest gigE afaik is from the latest $20/mbit he.net promotion, which is still $20000. abovenet and glbx gigE will definitely cost MUCH MUCH more than that.

http://www.kpn.com/common/downloads/Business Solutions/18_CityRing1102.pdf

€4500,- for 2,5gbit with unlimited traffic to the POP. I know what i'm talking about, and yes i did some heavy research on this.

And i've already talked about this with the company, and yes, it is true, and yes, it is unlimited traffic to the POP.

From the POP on you'll have to get your own peering agreements, and ofcourse the price for bandwidth, but that's for your own matter.

Originally posted by Weppel
I did not mention the word "overselling" in the case of Managed.com, because i wasnt pointing that way.

It's obvious they're overselling. Anyone promising 1 TB of bandwidth for $55 has to be. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just a fact of life when it comes to almost any dedicated server provider.

Originally posted by Weppel
http://www.kpn.com/common/downloads/Business Solutions/18_CityRing1102.pdf

€4500,- for 2,5gbit with unlimited traffic to the POP. I know what i'm talking about, and yes i did some heavy research on this.

And i've already talked about this with the company, and yes, it is true, and yes, it is unlimited traffic to the POP.

From the POP on you'll have to get your own peering agreements, and ofcourse the price for bandwidth, but that's for your own matter.

lol. any1 reads dutch here? lets see wut kind of deal is this.

Originally posted by amusive.com
It's obvious they're overselling. Anyone promising 1 TB of bandwidth for $55 has to be. There's nothing wrong with it, it's just a fact of life when it comes to almost any dedicated server provider.

Ofcourse they are, it would be a weird thing if they don't oversell..

Don't get me wrong, i am not saying they DONT oversell!! I'm just making clear that the pipes they have now are good for over 650 servers without overselling, probably 1200 servers with overselling, and they would still be very fast..

Originally posted by qm8309
lol. any1 reads dutch here? lets see wut kind of deal is this.

My hunch is that this cost does not include peering with a bandwidth provider. So... a pipe to nothing, more or less.

Just a hunch though.

ya and there's no such thing as "unlimted traffic".
actually if they mention "traffic" then it does not seem 2b a dedicated connection. its prolly some sort of shared internet access on a gige line.

Originally posted by amusive.com
My hunch is that this cost does not include peering with a bandwidth provider. So... a pipe to nothing, more or less.

Just a hunch though.

Exactly, but still, it is 2,5gbit :)

Originally posted by Weppel
Exactly, but still, it is 2,5gbit :)

so does it matter if its 10000 gbit? how do u do web hosting off it without a bandwidth provider? and wuts ur point of all the $8000 gigEs ?

Originally posted by qm8309
so does it matter if its 10000 gbit? how do u do web hosting off it without a bandwidth provider? and wuts ur point of all the $8000 gigEs ?

You don't. Essentially, it was a troll.

this is called transport - you get the capacity to transport packets to and fro. no ip *transit* is included. you can use this to connect offices or your own POPs. in order to use this for hosting, you would obviously need to contract for ip transit in addition to this.

paul

Originally posted by Weppel
http://www.kpn.com/common/downloads/Business Solutions/18_CityRing1102.pdf

€4500,- for 2,5gbit with unlimited traffic to the POP. I know what i'm talking about, and yes i did some heavy research on this.

And i've already talked about this with the company, and yes, it is true, and yes, it is unlimited traffic to the POP.

From the POP on you'll have to get your own peering agreements, and ofcourse the price for bandwidth, but that's for your own matter.

so wut kind pricings can b expected on true full euro gigEs ?

I am very disappointed right now. After waiting so long for this server, the server did not even have Cpanel installed. I ordered a Freebsd server. I thought all servers came with CPanel.

I thought they only came with cPanel as well. They mentioned being able to remove it on request. Maybe they gave you someone else's server?

Originally posted by SwiftyK
I am very disappointed right now. After waiting so long for this server, the server did not even have Cpanel installed. I ordered a Freebsd server. I thought all servers came with CPanel.

Eh, it's a simple error ;) what i think Managed.com does (as many dedi providers do) is they have a ghost image of BASIC setup. I'm sure 95% of their orders are with Redhat installed on them, so maybe they just haven't made a freeBSD image yet ;)

Remind them, i'm sure it was a honest mistake :D

~Francisco

Well I've e-mailed them but no reply yet. I'm disappointed because it's hard to find companies selling Freebsd servers and even harder Freebsd with Cpanel.

Yeah, One of the reasons I ordered a server from them was because I want to try out freebsd and cpanel together. So im hoping its only you, lol! Then again, Ive been waiting 4 days for my server so who knows if Ill ever even get it :|

Originally posted by Mallclerks
Yeah, One of the reasons I ordered a server from them was because I want to try out freebsd and cpanel together. So im hoping its only you, lol! Then again, Ive been waiting 4 days for my server so who knows if Ill ever even get it :|


Same here,finally got mine today at 5:00. I was going to give them till 12am before i emailed them and told them off. ;)

We ordered our box yesterday, jumped online this morning and was all setup, seems to be working great, havent seen such quick work :D

We have several boxes with them and we received them within 20 hours or so and everything has been running swiftly.

hey,
i was just wondering, is the speed still doing fine? ... the 9MB\s where pretty fine i guess..

anybody able to resetup a speedtestfile? maybe even someone who could test it then?

thx so far

edit: i sent managed.com an email, asking several questions.. plus i was willing to get a testfile to perform a quick speedtest.. the answers were there quickly ( about 4h ) but they wouldnt give me a testfile :( but still 4h is pretty much ok imho

Well, there is most likely a reason for not having a test file. They probably host on one of the boxes they sell, makes sence. I'm sure that if they posted a decent size test file, that someone that has it out for them enough, will just leech the file off in a attempt to cost them A LOT of money, or even worse shut down their server.

There are lots of people on here that have a server with them, it shouldn't be too hard to find one. I know someone posted a file a while back, but since then they've pulled it.

~Francisco

well,..

yea i know there has been one testfile,.. set up by a customer ( that was actually in this thread ;) ) but as you have mentioned, it has been taken down again. ( o/c it had, this is more than one month ago )

The problem are:
i am new in this forum, .. so i do not know anyone having a server @any company

i do not have an own ded. Server to test the speedfile ( which makes already two people that i am in a need of)

last but not least, english is not my native language, so this makes communicating with most of the ppl in this forum even worse :(

thats why i just asked for a new speedtest :cartman:

rob

Yes. I had a test file setup (dominica.zip) right after I had received my server. The file was leeched to death. Almost 100GB of bandwidth used in week on the test file so I pulled it off my site.

which was nice of you, indeed :)

this helped my a lot already, ... i do know now, the speed was pretty much okay a month ( or something ) ago.. i was just interrested in knowing, if this is still like that, of if managed.com did oversell there lines badly..

:)

Greetings,

Here's the answer to your question --

http://mrtg.managed.com/2b/66.79.164.254_fa0_12.html
http://mrtg.managed.com/4b/66.79.168.254_fa0_10.html
http://mrtg.managed.com/8a/66.79.171.254_fa0_20.html


Happy Holidays...



Originally posted by robsn
which was nice of you, indeed :)

this helped my a lot already, ... i do know now, the speed was pretty much okay a month ( or something ) ago.. i was just interrested in knowing, if this is still like that, of if managed.com did oversell there lines badly..

:)

well thanks MSG Inc.

this helped me a lil :)

hopefully the 21Mb/s is not a transfer from one of your servers to an other ;)

i guess i will just try one of your servers

to bad i aint got no paypal yet :(

rob :cartman:

btw: hollidays would be great :P but me has to wait a couple weeks :(

Originally posted by MSG Inc.
Greetings,

Here's the answer to your question --

http://mrtg.managed.com/2b/66.79.164.254_fa0_12.html
http://mrtg.managed.com/4b/66.79.168.254_fa0_10.html
http://mrtg.managed.com/8a/66.79.171.254_fa0_20.html


Happy Holidays...

:eek: :eek: :eek:

That's sick man, I can't even sustain that over my LAN. Don't those speeds break into gigabit though? I thought the 100Mbit nic's would limit ya' to a speed around ~12.5MB/sec

EDIT - Oops! i gotta learn to read better, the side bar states that the reads are in Mbit, not MB :P OK, even so, that's some pretty sick speeds man! Compliments to the tech's/network designers!

~Francisco

Whats sick about it? Its normal.... I dont know what kind of LAN your running but I can reach 12MB/sec on mine which is 100Mbps...

With my servers I've downloaded at 16.5MB (MEGABYTES)... yes there is a gigabit NIC in the machine.

well, Managed.com *only* got 100mbit cards plugged in their (ded.)servers

21MB/s would be a lil to much to take for them ( i guess )
thats what Confuzzled was wondering off

your servers aint hosted @ managed.com right?

Originally posted by robsn
well, Managed.com *only* got 100mbit cards plugged in their (ded.)servers

21MB/s would be a lil to much to take for them ( i guess )
thats what Confuzzled was wondering off

your servers aint hosted @ managed.com right?
It's Mb/s , not MB/s (megabits, not megabytes).

- Matt

thats what i am saying 21MB/s are to much to take for a 100mbit NIC

21Mb/s fits better, but thanks for underlining my arguement :)

It was more confused about, heh'
I didn't read the qay it was being measured on the side bar ;)
I'm fully aware that 100Mbit can't do 32MB/sec, heh'. regular ATA drives can't sustain 32MB/sec anyways :P (assuming they're not in raid0)

All those numbers are pretty impressive, you gotta admit. If each reading is per BOX, and not PER IP, then that technically means they got ~400 servers, and are still able to sustain those kinda speeds. (16 levels of mrtg * 24 boxes per level = 384 boxes. Then there is the overhead of all the other customers coming on each day :))

You guys are more and more tempting each day man ;)
Keep up the good work managed.com!

~Francisco

Doh! double post! sorry!

They have one gige guys.. do the math... I didnt look at the IPs clearly, but i think thats their router or something.

No my servers arnt at managed.com

If all it takes is an MRTG of a switch or a router to impress someone, will me posting the MRTG of a switch doing 80Mbps/sec get everyone to sign up with me? :rolleyes:

Magdalena,

The MRTG samples referenced in our previous post are for three separate servers only. We use a different monitoring software for switches and core routers.


Happy Holidays...





Originally posted by Magdalena
They have one gige guys.. do the math... I didnt look at the IPs clearly, but i think thats their router or something.

No my servers arnt at managed.com

If all it takes is an MRTG of a switch or a router to impress someone, will me posting the MRTG of a switch doing 80Mbps/sec get everyone to sign up with me? :rolleyes:

Hehe these boxes are going fast! Anyways,
we have 2x2.4ghz machines and they work very nicely, just waiting for my DNS to resolve globally, fhew... so far so good :)

After 5 days of using one of their servers, its running very nicely. I haven't noticed any slow speeds, nor have had any downtimes (only a few reboots and a kernel recompile which was our fault). Support has been good, and the servers are pretty nice.

I'll give another update once my first month is over.

Im out to get a server for ofsite backups, wil managed.com be a good solution for such a task ??

i have been looking at the 55 bucks server

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m out to get a server for ofsite backups, wil managed.com be a good solution for such a task ??

i have been looking at the 55 bucks server
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For $55 i'd recommend them for an offsite back-up. I really haven't haven't had any problems with our server hosted there. Although if another place can offer less than $55 and is pretty decent, cheap is always good. As long as it stays up.

are there anyone wich can rent me a server with the same specs for less ?? I know 55 bucks are really cheap also a offsite backup would be a great way to test the speed and other part of their service . I won't use it for hosting though , atleast not until i know they have good uptime and have stable support.

Well, you can get a $49 (with a setup fee of $99) from servermatrix... a bit better known... slightly less specs though