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jolly
09-07-2001, 09:15 AM
What will be cost to build a state-of-the-art (small) datacenter.
Is there any NOC which is only connected to Satellite not landlines?
Is there any company that can tell the app. cost and provide A-Z solution like Server, Satellite connectivity or Optical fiber lines and other things.
Please forward the url of the companies and your opinion (No
:D )

:D :D :D :D

CLEARVERT
09-07-2001, 12:31 PM
cheap datacenter:

$500k to startup

$50k a month to maintain, thats without bandwidth.

valkaryn
09-07-2001, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by jolly
What will be cost to build a state-of-the-art (small) datacenter.
Is there any NOC which is only connected to Satellite not landlines?
Is there any company that can tell the app. cost and provide A-Z solution like Server, Satellite connectivity or Optical fiber lines and other things.
Please forward the url of the companies and your opinion (No
:D )

:D :D :D :D

Are you talking about setting up a datacenter for a small batch of servers? Save yourself the headache of running a small datacenter. Find yourself a good colocation facility if you want to spend that kind of money, otherwise you'll find yourself in the lurch when your networks down and you can't find anyone to fix it at 3am...

If you don't care about reliability and redundancy that's another issue.

Since there are great differences in what people consider a small datacenter. Maybe you could outline server, data volume, and SLA requirements here and we could come up with something less vague.

Palm
09-07-2001, 05:00 PM
Data centers are expensive to maintain.
Recently there was a post about $40k routers plus bandwidth.

ReliableServers
09-07-2001, 05:59 PM
They may be expensive to maintain but you could grab one cheap with allt he places going outta business these days.

jolly
09-08-2001, 02:19 AM
I have come to know that there are some companies using satellite link for there datacenter. Is it possible to run datacenter via sat.
Is there any company that provide sat. connection in ASIA.

WildWayz
09-08-2001, 02:52 AM
I would avoid satellite NOCs - I know from the UK, Satellite internet is only good for downloading files - but uploading is restricted to something like 33.6k.

Plus, I believe if there are storms, that can effect performance just like Satellite TV.

I could be wrong tho :)

--James

Palm
09-08-2001, 12:10 PM
A bird flies between the signals and dies. :) :D :D :D

valkaryn
09-08-2001, 12:51 PM
Perhaps the following then applies:

RFC 1149 A Standard for the Transmission of IP Datagrams on Avian Carriers

or the superceding

RFC 2549 IP over Avian Carriers with Quality of Service


:stickout

But seriously, although you can pickup a Cisco 7507 on Ebay for around $40k these days, you need someone that know if you are purchasing the right modules for the chassis for your needs. And, hopefully, a similar type person that will stick around and configure it. Plus it would be an absolute bonus if you could tap them when you need optimization, routing diagnostics, or the old router-go-boom-at-3-am situation.

So, now you have 40k for router and 60-80k for mid to senior level network engineer. Oh, and you'll need a switch. Throw another 5-10k (ala Ebay or go cheap and upgrade in a month when you realize it isn't cutting it). Then there is A/C, UPS, back power generators, cabling, electricians, racking, monthly utility costs, contractors, delivery charges, 13k/month for a DS3 (that you will be assured to get in one month, but plan on six) plus setup fees and local loop charges (avoided with Satelite), city inspection fees (and associated aggravations such as stalling and misinspections).

All that and you only get one pipe. Pipe go boom. Phones ring. Sales moans. Upper Management starts pointing fingers (even though you pointed out obvious at get go).

I'm sure this can be greatly added to, but I have to go make my husband breakfast now. ;)

Rewdog
09-08-2001, 01:08 PM
Might already know about this, (They advertise every month in WHM)

http://www.datacentersnow.com/

May not be what your looking for, but check it out. I don't have any personal experience with them.

A.Eisner
09-10-2001, 03:26 PM
Havenco's got a satellite-based data center.

Heck, it's not even on land. ;)

Adam