As most of you have seen before I have posted stories about things that have happened to me. So I just decided to write another one so maybe you all don't feel so bad about your lives heh.

Story:

A couple of months ago Illinois passed a new tax on casinos. Abruptly my father (a slot manager with 25 years expirience), 8 other managers and the GM of the company were fired and replaced by lesser paid people. My father decided it was time for him to go back to texas and get into a job he likes. I decided to stay in St. Louis and begin living on my own. I had a decent job and went apartment searching. I found an apartment (got ripped off on it because I'm a 19 year old with no credit) and decided to move my "friend" in. My "friend" had no job but promised he would get one. 2 weeks passed and I came home one day (after a 12 hour shift) when he was supposed to be looking for a job, he was asleep at 5 p.m. I immediately kick his matress and told him to pack his crap because he was leaving. In that two weeks he had broke my front door, broke my dishwasher, stole $120, borrowed $300, owed me $500, intentionally placed a virus on my computer causing me to lose years of work (my backup computer had died a month earlier and I hadn't had time to make backups on cds) and one of his buddies attempted to steal my watch (caught him in the act and if any of you remember my hold up situation you realize how much that watch means to me, so when I saw that it became ugly). Most of these things i hadn't realized until I had kicked him out. What do you guys think my revenge should be, a good old fashion ass kicking or what?

Originally posted by dk2
As most of you have seen before I have posted stories about things that have happened to me. So I just decided to write another one so maybe you all don't feel so bad about your lives heh.

Story:

A couple of months ago Illinois passed a new tax on casinos. Abruptly my father (a slot manager with 25 years expirience), 8 other managers and the GM of the company were fired and replaced by lesser paid people. My father decided it was time for him to go back to texas and get into a job he likes. I decided to stay in St. Louis and begin living on my own. I had a decent job and went apartment searching. I found an apartment (got ripped off on it because I'm a 19 year old with no credit) and decided to move my "friend" in. My "friend" had no job but promised he would get one. 2 weeks passed and I came home one day (after a 12 hour shift) when he was supposed to be looking for a job, he was asleep at 5 p.m. I immediately kick his matress and told him to pack his crap because he was leaving. In that two weeks he had broke my front door, broke my dishwasher, stole $120, borrowed $300, owed me $500, intentionally placed a virus on my computer causing me to lose years of work (my backup computer had died a month earlier and I hadn't had time to make backups on cds) and one of his buddies attempted to steal my watch (caught him in the act and if any of you remember my hold up situation you realize how much that watch means to me, so when I saw that it became ugly). Most of these things i hadn't realized until I had kicked him out. What do you guys think my revenge should be, a good old fashion ass kicking or what?

Judge Judy!

http://www.judgejudy.com/home/home.asp

:beer:

Originally posted by teammobot
Judge Judy!

http://www.judgejudy.com/home/home.asp

:beer:

As sarcastic as that may have been, court works wonders on people. When I and an old girlfriend lived together, I kicked her out when we broke up she left with some of my things - an active cell phone included. The court system worked best for me.

Originally posted by dk2
What do you guys think my revenge should be


Hire some thugs to go bust up his joint and then get him set to teh hospital.

You've been having some serious bad luck, man.

You had that whole incident on 64W, right? I could definitely see that happening. Hope things get better.

you having a laugh or what????

might be time to become a hermit dood....

Pick better friends and chalk it up to life's experience.

Even at 19 revenge is not that sweet just move on and learn from it, next time you let someone move in make sure you know a little of their character and get the money up front.

I agree , revenge will make you bitter and twisted.. just be thankfull he's gone!

Forgive him and ask God to forgive you for wanting to kick his azz.

Or failing that, go round with a large tool ;)

I do feel bad for you. However, it also sounds like you need to learn a couple of lessons of life that all of us have to learn at some point. Specifically, you need to select your friends and those you hang out with more carefully. You also need to (unfortunately) be a little less trusting or more careful in who you trust. Freeloaders are just that...and you aren't at the point in life you can afford to carry others. It's sad that one has to build up certain walls to protect themselves. Learn from each event, mature with each problem, and you will be fine.

Originally posted by Eric Radtke
You've been having some serious bad luck, man.

You had that whole incident on 64W, right? I could definitely see that happening. Hope things get better.

Yup that was me :)

Originally posted by Incognito
I do feel bad for you. However, it also sounds like you need to learn a couple of lessons of life that all of us have to learn at some point. Specifically, you need to select your friends and those you hang out with more carefully. You also need to (unfortunately) be a little less trusting or more careful in who you trust. Freeloaders are just that...and you aren't at the point in life you can afford to carry others. It's sad that one has to build up certain walls to protect themselves. Learn from each event, mature with each problem, and you will be fine.

I do have a lot to learn, I'll be the first one to admit it. :(

As for judge judy, I was thinking judge louisville slugger.

Thanks for all your input I gotta clean the apartment for the party tonight, ohh ya anyone here from STL is invited :)

Your friend will get what's coming to him... don't bother going down to his level. Just figure that everything in life gets balanced eventually.

This is the most horrible advice thread I've ever seen!

The guy screwed you for ~$500, and everyone is saying "chalk it up to a life lesson"???

Screw that ... sue him, or beat it out of his hide. Don't let people walk all over you like that. Why be someone elses doormat? Oh, and not to mention the fact that you just moved out on your own and money is probably one of the harder things to come by, for you, at the moment.

But, "just let it go"...

BULLCRAP!

I had a guy steal a $150 guitar amp from me, which is a lot less than what you've lost, and I beat the ever loving crap out of him and got my money back to boot.

Getting your amp stolen: -$150.00
Beating the crap out of the person who did it: $0.00
Getting your money back as well: Priceless


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It has nothing to do with being bitter or spiteful. It has everything to do with:


a) morality
b) not letting other people take advantage of you
c) revenge; he was your friend, and he screwed you


Sue him, or beat it out of him ... either way; he deserves it.

Originally posted by webworkz
This is the most horrible advice thread I've ever seen!

The guy screwed you for ~$500, and everyone is saying "chalk it up to a life lesson"???

Screw that ... sue him, or beat it out of his hide. Don't let people walk all over you like that. Why be someone elses doormat? Oh, and not to mention the fact that you just moved out on your own and money is probably one of the harder things to come by, for you, at the moment.

But, "just let it go"...

BULLCRAP!

I had a guy steal a $150 guitar amp from me, which is a lot less than what you've lost, and I beat the ever loving crap out of him and got my money back to boot.

Getting your amp stolen: -$150.00
Beating the crap out of the person who did it: $0.00
Getting your money back as well: Priceless


....



It has nothing to do with being bitter or spiteful. It has everything to do with:


a) morality
b) not letting other people take advantage of you
c) revenge; he was your friend, and he screwed you


Sue him, or beat it out of him ... either way; he deserves it.

See who says you can't find good advice on the internet :) Money is a very hard thing to come by right now. I don't wanna deal with the seuing process so I think I'll go with option b and take it out of his hide. Now I just have to wait until I see him again.

That's a very mature way to settle things. Good luck.

*waits for blue to edit in sarcasm tags*

It costs $30-$50 for court filings, not to mention you can add those to your suit. Sue him for ~$500 plus court costs, and time away from your job ... it's not that hard to do.

If you beat the crap out of him, you may not get your money back, and the money is probably the most important part of it. I would personally choose to sue him.

If you really don't want to file a small claims suit against him, or don't think it will be worthwhile, that's your choice.

As for blue's comment: Mature? No, but then again; neither is taking someone for $500. As for "sinking to his level" ... In my opinion; it's a matter of principal. You can't expect to screw someone out of $500 and not face any ramifications. I believe in standing up for yourself, and not being stabbed in the back by people that you have helped out. Ross helped this guy out by offering to let him move in, in return for paying half the bills, and the guy screwed him.

I might be a bullheaded, stubborn jackass ... but I know what I consider to be right and wrong ... and I consider teaching someone a lesson, that has screwed you over, to be right.

I have been in his position before, and I did what I had to do to ensure that the person didn't get away with it. I wasn't of legal age at the time, so I had no other option other than letting him get away with my $150, and listening to that little voice in my head say: "It was wrong for him to steal your belongings, why didn't you do anything about it?!"


Just my two pennies.

*waits for blue to edit in sarcasm tags*

Ooops, forgot the damn tags.

You can't expect to screw someone out of $500 and not face any ramifications.

I agree 100%. But there is a right way and a wrong way of doing things. Threatening to beat someone up and/or actually doing it makes people look childish and not in control of themselves. There are channels to go through and paths to follow that are far more effective than violence.

Send the good old collections company round :) Tell them he owes you around £1,000 (their costs included) and they'll send very big men round to wherever he is. I've had to use them before, and they brought the guy back with them and he was almost in tears when he handed me back my money in full...needless to say I paid the collections company on the spot and they left him to walk the 10 miles home without any money left on him...:)

Originally posted by blue27
I agree 100%. But there is a right way and a wrong way of doing things.

That's purely subjective. :)

Threatening to beat someone up and/or actually doing it makes people look childish and not in control of themselves. There are channels to go through and paths to follow that are far more effective than violence.




Agreed. I've already explained those channels, and what he should do to avoid further loss [including court fee's and time off work with his small claims suit].

If he doesn't choose that option, and unless I've overlooked something, his other options are to:

a) force/convince the thief to pay the money back
b) let it go


Since I am 100% against just "letting it go" ... well, there's not a whole lot left. And, someone that just screwed you over for $500 is probably not going to be too responsive to:

"Seriously man, just pay me back."

Childish? Yes.

Effective? In my experience, yes.

Unless you, or someone else, can come up with that magical 4th option, I'll just leave it at that.

Originally posted by webworkz
This is the most horrible advice thread I've ever seen!

The guy screwed you for ~$500, and everyone is saying "chalk it up to a life lesson"???

Screw that ... sue him, or beat it out of his hide. Don't let people walk all over you like that. Why be someone elses doormat? Oh, and not to mention the fact that you just moved out on your own and money is probably one of the harder things to come by, for you, at the moment.

But, "just let it go"...

BULLCRAP!

I had a guy steal a $150 guitar amp from me, which is a lot less than what you've lost, and I beat the ever loving crap out of him and got my money back to boot.

Getting your amp stolen: -$150.00
Beating the crap out of the person who did it: $0.00
Getting your money back as well: Priceless


....



It has nothing to do with being bitter or spiteful. It has everything to do with:


a) morality
b) not letting other people take advantage of you
c) revenge; he was your friend, and he screwed you


Sue him, or beat it out of him ... either way; he deserves it.

Finally you said something that makes sence :D :stickout: joking...
Honestly i couldn't agree more with you.

Break his kneecaps and cutoff his thumbs!:eek:

...j/k

Originally posted by speedy007h
Break his kneecaps and cutoff his thumbs!:eek:

...j/k
nice thinking :D

well ross alls i can say is i still <3 and such is life we all go through **** and have to learn :( as sucky as that may seem i have been through alot too in the last two years ya know ! and im still alive and kicking take for granted struggling but making it work ya know

There is no learning in letting someone get away with screwing you over for $500.00.

Well, other than learning how much of a @^)*# you are if you let him get away with it. :)

A bullet always work. Small Claims Court is crap nowdays, want to wait anytime between 6 months to 5 years, just to have your case taken in? No thanks. You need your money, take care of him yourself :P

A simple compromise will work here Ross, you want your money back but you don't want to break the law or wait a long time for a court case.

I second the option for a collection agency, just add their fee to the funds and pick better friends next time.

If you do beat him up, make sure to wear lots of leather. It adds
to the effect...