I was at ServerMatrix's site like an hour ago, and then went back... and they're suddenly offering 1,000 GB bandwidth standard on all plans? Wasn't it $250 extra to go from 750 GB to 1000 GB?

I had been thinking of going with them for a combination of a webserver and a gameserver, but kind of convinced myself I didn't need it. Why do they have to do this to me? ;)

From reading other posts in the past by SM reps, hardly anybody approaches the 750 GB mark let alone exceed it. Raising the allocation to 1000 GB sounds great from a marketing standpoint however in reality it probably won't cost them anything. I just wish they would increase the co-lo bandwidth accordingly and I would be happy to send them a few servers but not at their current allocation.

Quoted from another Provider:

"Extreme bandwidth is indeed a bit of a marketing tactic. Unfortunately, *** gets caught in the frenzy as many customers who don't know any better will look at *** vs. others and wonder why we offer less BW. (Even though they'll never use it.)

The quandry is as follows: Do we stick with lower BW and hope to explain it to customers that they won't use it? Problem is that you run off lots of prospects who are just comparison shopping and they never call you.

That's why we decided to match or get close on BW with many of the providers out there. That way, however much BW you get is a non-issue and we can compete on more meaningful issues, like technicnological tools, experience in the industry, speed, etc."

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In that same thread:

"It's just marketing hype. In other words, given a choice of say 750GB or 1000GB with all other things being equal - the customer is going to choose 1000GB even though 80% of them have absolutely no way or intention to use that much bandwidth.

It's like AOL offering you 1000 hours FREE time in a month when in fact there are only 672 hours in a month available (7x24x4 weeks) - AOL offers it knowing full well nobody ever uses it.

It was stated here some time ago that only 20% of *** users ever get near (or go over) the bandwidth limit.

Most people are just happy to have their own server and the potential of maybe finding an application that will finally use a good portion of the bandwidth... but it's mostly just a fantasy or wishful thinking.

That's what marketing is all about. Creating a "need" where there wasn't one before and pricing the product at a "can't refuse" level to bring in the business."

It all makes perfect sense. :)

wow, someone visits thier site alot :stickout:

wonder if it will be given to current customers as well..

Dr Cool
:cool:

When they upgraded from 500 to 750 GIGS, current customers could upgrade, but they charged a one time administrational fee. I think it was something like $50.

Originally posted by DrCool
wow, someone visits thier site alot :stickout:

wonder if it will be given to current customers as well..

Dr Cool
:cool:

they should. Rackshack did the same thing before.

Kevin

With all thier servers being on 10mbps ports, good luck getting that high. While technically 10mbps can handle over that traffic, with the bell curve traffic stats usually represent I doubt many could get 1TB out of a 10mbps port.

I get just about 3TB on those 10mbit ports. So I'm not sure why anyone couldn't push 1TB on a 10mbit port.

I think RS has a little competition now. ;)

I think if SM can upgrade their servers to match or beat the RS/EV1 servers, then they will be the undisputed king in the entry to mid level hosting.

SM servers don't match RS servers when it comes to RAM, Hard Disks, and generally RS servers also have Control Panel price included in the server price. If you upgrade these things at SM to match RS/EV1, you are easily looking at an extra 130 to 170 dollars per month.

So I hope SM will also upgrade their server specs. if they really have to beat RS/EV1.

With RS comparable servers, 1TB bandwidth and automatically installed OS and security patches at the minimum with their silver level free plan, it will be a no brainer to go with them.

Just my comparison of the two companies. Or lets say my 2 cents....LOL.

Regards,

Originally posted by rickkumar
I think if SM can upgrade their servers to match or beat the RS/EV1 servers, then they will be the undisputed king in the entry to mid level hosting.

SM servers don't match RS servers when it comes to RAM, Hard Disks, and generally RS servers also have Control Panel price included in the server price. If you upgrade these things at SM to match RS/EV1, you are easily looking at an extra 130 to 170 dollars per month.

So I hope SM will also upgrade their server specs. if they really have to beat RS/EV1.

With RS comparable servers, 1TB bandwidth and automatically installed OS and security patches at the minimum with their silver level free plan, it will be a no brainer to go with them.

Just my comparison of the two companies. Or lets say my 2 cents....LOL.

Regards,

however SM doenst charge non-tx residents sales taxes. those extra $10-$30 a month on tax can b saved for an extra stick of ram. not to mention SM is semi-managed.

Some clients wouldn't use that much of bandwidth, so they would just give and take for those who use up 1TB from probably 100GB/month clients?

In fact they have such huge pipe, that would be more feasible for them to overselling.

Please dont try to beat RS.

Why are you people pushing for this?

The reason I left RS for TP/SM is because they are better!

Competing with RS is bringing them DOWN a notch, IMO.

RS still better in dedicated server IMO. SM is better in managed server.

They are not into the same category.

Originally posted by ozzie123
RS still better in dedicated server IMO. SM is better in managed server.

They are not into the same category.

i disagree.

first SM can only b considered as semi-managed with their free plan.
2nd if a provider offers such free management at the same price as a unmanaged provider without sacrificing network/support quality, it only means one thing: its better.

its perfectly fair to compare RS and SM.

SM do offer a free SM server. But those 'free' service is very strict that it's almost (remember, I say ALMOST) useless/not-powerful enough to be said a managed server.

I say, they wanted the user to take their paid service instead.

Therefore, we cannot compare RS to SM

Just to let everyone know all Server Matrix accounts will be upgraded to 1000GB at no charge.

If you have any questions please let us know.

Thank You for your business

Originally posted by YourHost
Just to let everyone know all Server Matrix accounts will be upgraded to 1000GB at no charge.

If you have any questions please let us know.

Thank You for your business

great deal Jeff. Thanks.

Kevin

I also noticed another change to the offers,

You cant change the size of drive 1 on any of the servers other then the duel xeon.

Do you think the reson that SM stopped the primary Hard Disk up grade option has something to do with the increased bandwidth?

Can it be that if only smaller hard drives are allowed, then people can not really use much of that allowed 1000GB of bandwidth?

Just asking?

Because I wonder why would they do that at the same time they increase their bandwidth?

Their servers are already pretty low spec., it appears they even going lower. Are they?

What do you think?

Regards,

Originally posted by rickkumar
Can it be that if only smaller hard drives are allowed, then people can not really use much of that allowed 1000GB of bandwidth?


The size of a hard drive has nothing to do with bandwidth.

Originally posted by 25GigPak
I also noticed another change to the offers,

You cant change the size of drive 1 on any of the servers other then the duel xeon.

This is news to me.

Please make sure you are going to ServerMatrix.com because you can change the primary drive on the Celeron servers also.

Thank You

Originally posted by 25GigPak
I also noticed another change to the offers,

You cant change the size of drive 1 on any of the servers other then the duel xeon.

Hmm, 1hr later I go back and can now select a larger drive, very odd..

Thanks Jeff!

LOL......Its just H i l a r i o u s!

Originally posted by 25GigPak
Hmm, 1hr later I go back and can now select a larger drive, very odd..

Thanks Jeff!

must have been a script bug :)

It appears that now you can not upgrade the 'primary' hard drive on many server types excluding just a couple of server types e.g. Dual Xeon etc.

If I am not mistaken before it was possible to upgrade the 'primary' hard drive on almost all server types.

Am I right?

Thanks.

Originally posted by rickkumar
It appears that now you can not upgrade the 'primary' hard drive on many server types excluding just a couple of server types e.g. Dual Xeon etc.

If I am not mistaken before it was possible to upgrade the 'primary' hard drive on almost all server types.

Am I right?

Thanks.

send Jeff and email, I am sure he can help you.

Originally posted by rickkumar
It appears that now you can not upgrade the 'primary' hard drive on many server types excluding just a couple of server types e.g. Dual Xeon etc.

If I am not mistaken before it was possible to upgrade the 'primary' hard drive on almost all server types.

Am I right?

Thanks.


They just lauched there new site maybe they haven't added that in yet :confused: or maybe they took it out. I know you can upgrade the celerons the super server you can't though Xeon you can

Jeff: WOW, great to hear. We certainly do not utilize but maybe 10-20% of our transfer allocations but yeah, it's nice to know i t's there if I desire to let some buddys run shoutcasts or something.

As for upgrading primary drive. I'm not sure but we were allowed to swap our backup drive (Secondary) to our primary for free. We just had to put it in the comment section on the order form.

Other than a very pro-longed setup time at SM they have been excellent network and server hardware wise. Of course, we've only been there one week, but hopefully that will expand in to one year or more soon.

I understand competition in the market, I just hope that their network and/or support does not suffer. First sign of that, like many others who tried to compete with RS, I as well as others I'm sure will be gone.

I think SM/ThePlanet is unique though, and I think if anyone can truely compete with RS they are definitly the one.

Awesome!

One question -- is bandwidth still measured the same way (I believe total of in and out)?

Or does this change shift how BW is measured, ie: 500 in / 500 out or something silly like that?

As far as I know, there were no other changes ;)