Hello everyone,

I'm planning to start selling domain names by getting:
-one $6.95 enom reseller
-DRAMS with the complete module
-2checkout merchant account
-ModernBill

My questions are:
1. Do i need ModernBill if I have got DRAMS?
2. If i got ModernBill, will i need DRAMS? :D
3. Which one is more preferable in terms of cost-saving, reliability and service, is it better to use 2checkout or Enom's RegistryRocket?

I also plan to complement my domain reselling business with webhosting business, so I'll also need a automation-tool (i.e. Modernbill/WHMautopilot or alike) later.

What's the best way to go guys?
Any advice is sincerely welcome, and thanks in advance for your thoughts on this one ;)

Cheers

I wonder whether i've posted in the wrong forum? :(

Any feedback/input/suggestions/advice? pls?

irvin,

Especially for domain business:
1. If you got DRAMS, you dun need ModernBill.
2. If you got Modernbill, but if you also want those enom dns features available for your clients, you will need DRAMS.
3. You better got DRAMS first as it seems to me that you gonna start your business with domain service.

Hi Giorgio,

Thanks for your input.
Phew, finally somebody gives me a reply :)
Well, I too was thinking to get modernBill as i've heard that many things have been said about it.
I personally never used one before, do you use modernbill?
Is it complicated? (Personally I'd say it's kind of hard to get used to using all the features that come with it).

irvin you might want to hang on before comitting to modernBill, apparently drams's new version will have hosting added to it too and from previous experience their code is good and very user friendly, so if you are not in a hurry!

no problem, irvin.

IMO, if you care providing your clients with those enom powerful dns features, DRAMS is a must for you.

Otherwise, if you only want to provide simple domain reg. service for your clients, then MB will be one of your best solutions.

We got a DRAMS working OK, not very complicated. We now waiting for MB's new version 4.1 to be released.

you could just offer retail enom accounts....

Dont discount that option.

Originally posted by bandari
irvin you might want to hang on before comitting to modernBill, apparently drams's new version will have hosting added to it too and from previous experience their code is good and very user friendly, so if you are not in a hurry!

Hi bandari,

If that's true, then I must hang on. :D
But do you know when exactly that new versionn will be released?
By the way, will that next version of DRAMS have some special features that are as useful as tools like WHMAutopilot/ModernBill/PhpManager?
If yes, then Enom reseller Account, DRAMS, 2checkout merchant account, and hosting reseller account are all i need to start my hosting and domain name reselling business :stickout:

Hopefully, that new DRAMS is not going to be too Xpensive.:cool:

Thanks for the info bandari

Giorgio, Kohashi, Bandari, or anyone else :D

I'm still concerned about my third question:

3. Which one is more preferable in terms of cost-saving, reliability and service, is it better to use 2checkout or Enom's RegistryRocket?

And i was also wondering which one has also got better credit card fraud protection?

I would say neither. I know a few people that have had problems with 2CO recently. I think at one stage their server was down. Enom you can only use for domains but even then they hold your money for 90days if you use registry rocket.

There are some good ones about that are more reliable. Authorize.net is good also check out paysystems.com. You can use both with DRAMS.

Re ETA of new drams no definate date yet but should be soon I think.

Irvin,

I would say Enom's RR is way expensive if you use enom's credit card processing service. In my opinion, 2Checkout is more cost effective in this situation. About reliability and service, I think both of them are more less in the same level. For fraud protection issue, I will say still, both are more less the same. One issue I would consider is, 2Checkout is dedicated for CC processing service while eNom is not. Like when you want to buy a ne pair of sport shoes, will you consider NIKE or DKNY?

By the way, you know about the cost of ModernBill and DRAMS, rite? Just by reading the figures, you will see DRAMS is way more inexpensive than MB. Though, its an issue of choosing from NIKE and DKNY again as they both have different service aspect indeed.

DRAMS is good when your business is FOCUS on domain reg and related business, like offering sub-reseller account, providing powerful features like word search and name-my-phone, etc. Meanwhile, you can also put your hosting packages in their section of "Other Services".

ModernBill is good when you dun care for providing eNom's powerful DNS features but you want a powerful clients care and billing system. As you can see in their demo, you have integrated FAQ, Helpdesk, Calendar and all sorts of decent clients care and billing system in MB. Of course, it cost you way more than DRAMS. Therefore, IMHO, I would say if your business is FOCUS on web hosting and other services rather than domain reg business, you may consider MB.

I am using 2Checkout myself while some other WHT members will recommend Paysystem. I suggest you to do a search in WHT for people opinions in both companies' service.

Hopefully I can give you a more clear picture this time, irvine.

Oh, bandari, what's the meaning of "ETA"?

By the way, Irvin, I do agree with bandari that having your own merchant account like Authorize.net is also a good solution for your situation. In long run, you save a lot of money for having your own merchant account.

Thanks Giorgio and Bandari,

Your insights have really helped me clear the picture a lot.
I'll certainly have a look at authorize.net and paysystems.com

But in terms of cost/transaction fee, 2checkout is sure the winner, correct me if i'm wrong guys.

Yeah, what's the meaning of ETA bandari?

Cost and Transaction fees for 2Checkout and Paysystem are the same. Am I correct? Well, need to check that out too.

Anyone knows what is ETA ? I only know E.T., E.T.P....

ETA - Estimated time of arival.

:)

Chris

irvin, I think you can do some simple math.
Let's suppose you get a $6.95 account, this means your cost is $6.95. You plan to resell domains at $10.95.

1 year registrations:
Your cost with 2checkout: $10.95 * 5.5% + $0.45 = $1.05
Your cost with enom: $10.95 * 3% + $0.95 = $1.28
Result: 2checkout is better

2 year registration:
Your cost with 2checkout: $10.95 * 2 * 5.5% + $0.45 = $1.65
Your cost with enom: $10.95 * 2 * 3% + $0.95 = $1.61
Result: enom is better

And so on... 2checkout is cheaper in this case only when you register 1 domain, in every other situation enom is better (cheaper).

Think about how much you are going to sell domain names then do the same calculations.

Thanks Zoli,

I already did that simple calculation :D
Guess what, i'm now awaiting for my application for paysystems account to be approved ;)

Hopefully it won't take too long.
Cheers

Originally posted by obviousl
ETA - Estimated time of arival.

:)

Chris

Thanks Chris :)

Guys,

I think I might have to also consider another icann-registrar called c nobin.
I already did some research on c nobin.com.
I know they're based in China, and more importantly their price is lower $6.59.
And guess what?! They're offering me a free reseller premier account which is worth $999 (prepayment).

What do you think guys?
I know this is out of the thread's subject a little bit.
But i'm hunting here, u know :D
And this one is surely tempting me :)

Cheers

I have heard that their api doc is very difficult to interpret and put into function. I hav ealso heard that their support is not all that great. Money isn't everything you know

I've decided to give it a try guys. ;)

Wish me luck.

Bandari,
I would agree with you on their API, it seems a bit complicated. Maybe it's because my first time using it :D

Well, I'm still interested with enom's $6.95 reseller account, I somehow can sense that they're much better than other registrars out there in domain name industry. I'll keep hunting for Enom's $6.95 while trying c nobin.

Take care, and God bless :)

Another thing to note is that enom does not make you pay chargeback fees and 2checkout does!

Enom only charge you the cost of the domain, they dont add another $29 for the chargeback :)

That's a good insight, Host Ultra.

Can people do a chargeback on the account? How would you fight it?