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Beauzeau
08-26-2001, 12:29 AM
Hi,

I've been using sentris.com for the last three years or so for all my hosting needs. They are slow to respond to emails, they had about two months of non-existant service at one point, and now I'm wondering if I'm being overcharged by them.

I know that resellers tend to hang out here, and I want to preface these questions by saying I DON'T NEED OFFERS! Thank you, but I've already made a post to take offers. This post is for information.

Sentris charges me 24.95 per month, they give me 150 megs of space and 1 gig of transfer with that. This is a reseller account. The way it works is, I can divide that 150 megs into 150 domains if I want to (1 meg minimum per domain) and don't have to pay any extra each month for my hosting. I do have to pay a one-time setup fee of 25.00 per domain (12.50 per if I pay for eight in advance) Each resold domain gets 1 gig transfer each month, no matter how many gigs of space I allocate to them. I looked on webhostingtalk about eight months ago for some other solutions and couldn't really find much in the way of this type of reseller account. Now, I see many that offer the ability to "share" the main disk space and transfers, and many are offering much more disk space than I currently have.

My main question and the one point that I'm somewhat unclear on is the concept of IPs and how they correspond with domain names. My current plan says that each domain is "IPless". But when I log into my controlpanel for any given name, there is an ip address listed there for it. And I have, at times, had to type in the ip directly in my browser to see my site (during that period that they had screwed everything up in particular). Now these other plans that I've been seeing offer unlimited domains, with no setup fees (maybe a $1 per month fee for each). Granted, I have to share the bandwidth between them all, but none of my sites are bandwidth heavy anyway (I'm sure if they were, my current host would have dropped me already). What I'm wondering is, how can a domain be resolved if it has no ip? I always thought that a domain HAD to have an ip.

If anyone with more knowledge than me on this subject has the time to help me out, take a gander at sentris.com's unix reseller plan, and compare it to something like hitspot.net and tell me if I'm missing something. Hitspot has offered me 2 gigs of space and 10 gigs of BW, not to mention no setup fees on added domains, versus my current 150 megs of space, 1 gig transfer for each domain, and a 25 dollar setup on each domain. I'm just wondering if I'm missing something with this IP thing.

Also, I noticed someone talking about a recent regulation on IP sharing. What's that all about?

Any help anyone could give would be appreciated.

Thanks
Beau

DHWWnet
08-26-2001, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Beauzeau
What I'm wondering is, how can a domain be resolved if it has no ip? I always thought that a domain HAD to have an ip.


Name based domains are depending on a DNS server to resolve. Domains do not really need to have its own IP, but it is good to have one though. Take note that IPs are a limited resource.

steve
08-26-2001, 05:06 AM
Try this thread - Kiwi put in some good links on the subject:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19317

Rgds

mahinder
08-26-2001, 05:35 AM
Originally posted by Beauzeau
What I'm wondering is, how can a domain be resolved if it has no ip? I always thought that a domain HAD to have an ip.


DNS resolve browser request to apache and after that apache takes care to handle the domain. If you just see apache httpd.conf file you will find that apache can support many domain on single ip address. these type of domain are called virtual domains. But you can not access such domain with ip address. You can only access them through there name.

Also, I noticed someone talking about a recent regulation on IP sharing. What's that all about?

you can find more information on this at this link

http://www.arin.net/regserv/ip-assignment.html

for brief isp should have following allocation policy regarding ip addresses

A 25% immediate utilization rate, and
A 50% utilization rate within one year

cheers
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