Who has the best VPS out there? (say around 10 GB, 50 GB/mo, Ensim Pro/Cpanel optional)

Prime consideration = Very good network (near 100%)+ Top class data center. Good support.
Not a consideration = Cost

Not a consideration = Cost

Then Why get a VPS?

$600/mo for top dedicated exceeds my budget. With a cheap dedicated there is downtime. An expensive VPS with 100% uptime sounds better.

Also do not need too much resources (CPU, RAM, GB, GB/mo) to justify a dedicated.
That is why I asked "Who is the king of VPS/VDS ?"

quote: " With a cheap dedicated there is downtime."

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Usually because not a dime was spent on administration by the person that purchased an unmanaged server.

So if I buy a KIA, will it break down? Dont warrantys cover this? I mean a responsible company with such a warranty would right? If the maintanence schedule is ignored and the oil is never changed and left to run dry, the warranty wont cover any of it.

Or I could choose to ride public transportation.

The saying "You get what you pay for" is over used around here.

How about, "You get what you plan for" ?

servint has a nice VPS offering if you wait for them to sort out the problems. there were a few troubles lately but when they are sorted out, it will be just what you need - virtuozzo vps on a top-quality network / hardware. they do have cpanel bargain deal now ($11 one time fee) but cpanel does not seem to live happily with virtuozzo vps.

there is a number of ensim-based VPSes, too, (like olm.net's offering at 70$ - overpriced but support about as fast as servint's, and knowledgeable too) but I have no first-hand experience with non-virtuozzo VPSes so can't say anything about their stability.

jdvs.com?

cpanel does not seem to live happily with virtuozzo vps.


What issues have you had, there is only the quotas issue that im aware of.

Why don't you either get a shared hosting or reseller account or buy a $200 dedicated and hire a management company to manage it for an extra $100 a month. Places like Servermatrix and Nocster offer servers in this price range and having an outside management company can help you get more support and service for your buck.

Servint VPS = pretty much unmanaged + recent problems with Cpanel = possible downtime.
Their dedicated is very tempting though :)

Am going to observe Servint and Olm VPS in the coming days. Servint is offering Plesk on VPS too, but my customers do not like it much. I have been using a couple of Ensim Vps. Just a little slow when adding/removing sites. But stability is fine.

TheVoice, no guaranteed resources in Reseller accounts. Looking for directly managed VPS.

Does this policy sound reasonable?
Instead of putting 300 small sites per dedicated server, host 100-150 small sites per $150 managed VPS in different top quality data centers with very high uptime.

Total cost = $150*2 = $300 = medium quality dedicated offering. Allows to offer variety of control panels and high uptime. Not all customers will be simultaneously affected even if there is a downtime (and there always is).

Hence the thread "What Rackspace is to Dedicated, WHICHCOMPANY is to VPS/VDS?".

vdedicated, can you explain more about the recent problems with cpanel you have been having?

I have never used Cpanel. But I have read many posts in the last few days on these forums that Servint customers have been facing some with Cpanel on Virtuozzo. On the other hand everyone talks very highly of their dedicated.
How does the multiple VPS policy posted by me above sound to you?

Originally posted by TheVoice
Why don't you either get a shared hosting or reseller account or buy a $200 dedicated and hire a management company to manage it for an extra $100 a month. Places like Servermatrix and Nocster offer servers in this price range and having an outside management company can help you get more support and service for your buck.


This sounds a complete plan though.

Servermatrix (with some management not like RS) + management company seems cool.

Originally posted by vdedicated
Servint VPS = pretty much unmanaged + recent problems with Cpanel = possible downtime.
Their dedicated is very tempting though :)

Am going to observe Servint and Olm VPS in the coming days. Servint is offering Plesk on VPS too, but my customers do not like it much. I have been using a couple of Ensim Vps. Just a little slow when adding/removing sites. But stability is fine.

TheVoice, no guaranteed resources in Reseller accounts. Looking for directly managed VPS.

From what I read Servint VPS is not a place for you to go though especially they got problems on handling cpanel.

But why VPS then? If you like to try cpanel around. Go get a dedicated box:D

Originally posted by Jori
From what I read Servint VPS is not a place for you to go though especially they got problems on handling cpanel.

But why VPS then? If you like to try cpanel around. Go get a dedicated box:D

cPanel and Virtuozzo still don't play nicely together when it comes to quotas.

vdedicated,

No, you want a dedicated instead of 2 VPS. Most of the VPS have constrain on the resource you could use. You'll run into trouble about the resources before you get downtime with dedicated.
If you can spend about $300-$400 for a dedicated, get a Dell machine, with Raid 1 setup of HDD, and then another machine for backup/emergency purpose.

SplashHost, latest Virtuozzo has been having server problems with Cpanel VPSes. 2.5.1 was meant to enable quota's but it enabled runaway processes overloading the host machine.

But props to ServInt, they got Virtuozzo engineers on site and in about 24 hours it was resolved (going 30hrs now with no problems, good speed too).

Originally posted by piramida
SplashHost, latest Virtuozzo has been having server problems with Cpanel VPSes. 2.5.1 was meant to enable quota's but it enabled runaway processes overloading the host machine.

But props to ServInt, they got Virtuozzo engineers on site and in about 24 hours it was resolved (going 30hrs now with no problems, good speed too).

The work that our VPS Project Team has been doing with the Virtuozzo Development Team including their Chief Software Architect and some other high-talents, will actually benefit our competitors as well. Doubt we'll get much credit or benefit for that, but it all goes to the benefit of the VPS concept as a whole.

I would suggest using VMWare for your VPS Offerings as there does not seem to be any issues running CPanel or DirectAdmin.

Jori never tried third party maintenance before. Nor have the balls to try it for another few months.

Meanwhile, like I said above:
Instead of putting 300 small sites per dedicated server, host 100-150 small sites per $150 managed VPS in different top quality data centers with very high uptime. Allows to offer variety of control panels and high uptime. Not all customers will be simultaneously affected even if there is a downtime. Of course you get max 25% resources on VPS and there is a few minutes downtime occasionally when others reboot.

But on the whole is it a sound policy to have more VPS than few dedicated to distribute the risks?

If yes, who provides top quality managed VPS. Will appreciate if people having VPS can share their experiences.

BobFarmer (from Servint right?)
Heard a lot of great things about your company (only exception is VPS). Start an Ensim Pro or other MANAGED VPS. I will be your first customer :)

em..not sure how managed you need
if you are talking about 150USD, maybe servermatrix is one of your choices. Get a super celeron at 99USD+50USD gold management. It is not fully managed anyway, but you get "full power". I do not really believe you will get equal power to celeron 1.7+512MB ram if there are 50 accuonts on a VPS, even it is Dual Xeon. Let us say each of them have 10 sites only, that will be 500sites on it already.

You could distribute risks on dedicated servers with more power at similiar costs.

Also becuase that there are no fully managed VPS nowadays

Also becuase that there are no fully managed VPS nowadays


Yes there is!

Not for a rookie like me to say this, but purely from a marketing perspective, it makes more sense for Servint to have managed VPS instead of unmanaged.

Logic: The unmanaged VPS customers will tomorrow move to another cheap unmanaged dedicated provider tomorrow. They will not be willing to pay extra for great Servint support.

On the other hand managed VPS customers are willing to pay extra for managed services. With the reputation that Servint is building up (rivalled only by rackspace for managed dedicated servers) these VPS customers will gladly upgrade to dedicated servers in the near future.

Am I barking up the wrong tree?

The work that our VPS Project Team has been doing with the Virtuozzo Development Team including their Chief Software Architect and some other high-talents, will actually benefit our competitors as well. Doubt we'll get much credit or benefit for that, but it all goes to the benefit of the VPS concept as a whole.


Yes, im quite happy to let you guys test the latest versions first :)

Yipes :)
Thanks for the suggestion Jori. Going to look for old PC model servers from good providers over the next two days. Unless I happen to find a very good manged VPS first. lol

Problem is good providers rarely offer slower machines. So I will have to look harder for slower dedicated.
Wish I could get an Ensim Pro PIV (1.7 GHZ, 512 MB) from servint under $250.
Then again, if wishes had wings, I would be Superman. hehe :)