The Good:
WHT is a great place for those involved in the webhosting community to communicate. I have gained alot of insight, information and even met a couple business contacts through these forums.

The Bad:
The trollers, the greedy scammers who promote their own companies with newbie posters and the 15 year old kids who run hosting companies without a clue.

Even worse then the 15 y/o kids without a clue are the adults who continually are offended and are quick to slam anyone who hasn't been in business for as long as them. If you are a trained/educated adult who is running a serious hosting outfit, these 15 year old kid companies should not worry you in the least.

A couple days ago, there was a thread about a 15 y/o who "retired" from the business to enjoy his youth, great for him. Underneath that were all the people cheering him on because they seem afraid from their own business because of the influx of startup hosting companies.

Overall, this post is somewhat off on a wild tangent but I had to get the point out somehow (though it might have been articulated better).

I am not a 15 year old, but a young adult running a hosting operation that sees too many hosts spending too much time on the forums griping about issues that shouldn't be of concern. Hell, I should be doing something for my customers rather then griping myself.

Thanks to all who contribute to WHT and keep it a great place to checkin at a couple times a day!

What exactly is the moral of your story?
Most of the hosts on this board have no concern what-so-ever that some 15 year old start up is going to steal their business. What is of major concern though, are these kiddies who start up a "business" without knowing the first thing about it and ultimately failing.
That is bad for the hosting business in general. Any clients who are unfortunate to sign up with these operators will have a bad impression of the industry.
You should know better considering you are in the business.

No offense blue, but it seems like you're always on the attack when someone decides to express their opinion. Perhaps, his story has no moral, just his ideas on what's wrong with WHT.
In regards to kids being a major concern: only on WHT and the like. Shocking as it may seem 99% of my clients, when I was in the business, actually did research prior to selecting a host.
Personally, I couldn't care less about kiddie hosts. If consumers decide to spend nothing on 100,000 features, then they deserve exactly what they receive.

Perhaps you could point out some situations where I attacked another member comphosting. I know you like to disagree with me, and sometimes even look for my posts to dispute them, but I would really appreciate if you could at least back it up.
I don't see any attack here at all. Neosurge stated an opinion which I disagree with to some extent. I don't think I attacked him, I just took an opposing position. He is welcome to respond and we will have a genuine discussion.

Funny, you tell me to provide proof of my claim, and immediately claim that I "look for your posts to dispute them", obviously without any proof of that statement :).
My point was, saying "You should know better considering you are in the business." When you are expressing not fact, but opinion, seems rather silly.
Now, if you care to backup your comment, I'd be more then happy to do so as well.

I won't waste my time on you or disrupt this thread.
The community knows what the facts are and I'll leave it at that.
I doubt that Neosurge will take offense to my post as you seem to have so I'll wait for his response.

I thought this was a discussion? In fact my last sentence clearly focused on the topic, which you completely ignored.

It is a discussion. It's a discussion about this statement:
Underneath that were all the people cheering him on because they seem afraid from their own business because of the influx of startup hosting companies.

That was the point the thread starter was trying to make and that is the point I have and will respond to.

You're call I guess. I made a post that was completely relevant to the discussion. In addition to that. In my opinion, your post seemed to hold a lot of contentment, but maybe I'm reading to much into it.
If you don't feel like responding to my points, that's perfectly acceptable :).

Most of the hosts on this board have no concern what-so-ever that some 15 year old start up is going to steal their business.


Maybe you should re-read some of the posts around here,if the hosts were not concerned then why sometimes when someone under 18 posts about getting in the bussiness a host jumps in to post and then they will come up and say stuff like "Hosting is not for kids,stay in school".


What is of major concern though, are these kiddies who start up a "business" without knowing the first thing about it and ultimately failing.


So what ? There are tons of business's in the world who get into a market without knowing what they are doing and then in the end fail and sometimes do succeed. What makes you such a "know it all" that you know everything about hosting that you wont fail ? By reading your post that what it seems your trying to say.

So WHT community automatically labels a teen with a reseller package a Kiddie Host ? Thats the impression i get nowdays from reading these posts.

The problem is that there is no liability when a minor gets in business. If a kid decides to take the money and run, the person getting hosed has no recourse. If an adult does the same, there are steps that can be taken.

If a host is in school from 8-3 each day who is taking care of the server? How many truly have the capital to hire out additional support during those hours? What happens when Johnny gets grounded from the computer? What happens when Jane wants to go to spring break with her friends for a week or so?

You have homework when you get home. You should be in bed by 9 or 10 PM.

That leaves you with about fours hours out of the day to manage a business. That's based on the assumption you have no extra-curricular activities and no life outside of school.

How can one be a "CEO" of a company when they're not of legal age to actually operate one and be held accountable for it?

If someone wants to do it part time to get a little extra money on the weekends or whatever, then that's fine by me. Just be honest about it and say up front what you can and cannot do as a host.

Bling Bling you can draw whatever conclusions you choose from my post. Most people I'm sure will be able to read it and not see anywhere that I think I'm a know it all or that I claim to know everything about hosting.