Did PayPal finally make it so someone could pay with a CC even if they don't have an account? That's how it appears! Can someone please clarify? If so that's awesome!

No, we have not done this. The request has been given to the Product Development team, but I am not sure if it will be implemented.

it would be great if it was

I report it every day to keep the request near the top:)

I would be interested in knowing how many web hosts in this forum currrently use PayPal.

Check this link out:

https://www.paypal.com/subscriptions/business=order%40inoverse.com&item_name=SD-1+%26+Setup+Fee&image_url=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/paypal.gif&no_shipping=1&return=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/thankyou_hosting.html&cancel_return=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/thankyou_cancel.html&no_note=1&a1=55.00&p1=30&t1=D&a3=35.00&p3=1&t3=M&src=1&sra=1


Thats the link I use on my site, www.inoverse.com to go t PayPal! It looks like they did it to me!

Originally posted by paypaldamon
I report it every day to keep the request near the top:)

I would be interested in knowing how many web hosts in this forum currrently use PayPal.

Hey paypaldamon
I use PayPal. I certainly would like for my customers not to have to sign up with PayPal as well as sign up with me. It just seems like a lot of redundant typing and I think it actually scares some customers away. Hopefully you guys will square this soon.

-protean

Originally posted by paypaldamon
I report it every day to keep the request near the top:)

I would be interested in knowing how many web hosts in this forum currrently use PayPal.

Customers has the choice between checks, credit card and paypal here :) So yes, we use PayPal when the customer asks it.

Thank you for your feedback. Feel free to contact me if you would like a t-shirt (size and address needed) ---if you haven't received one in the past.

I got excited here for a minute. It will be nice when the day comes that customers don't have to sign up a 2nd time with paypal. I agree, I think some potential customers get scared off by it.

Originally posted by paypaldamon
Thank you for your feedback. Feel free to contact me if you would like a t-shirt (size and address needed) ---if you haven't received one in the past. Well, I haven't received one.
But, I'm tired of askin'

;)

The t-shirt order I mentioned should be in Tuesday of next week. You should see the shirt shortly thereafter.

Originally posted by inoverse
Check this link out:

https://www.paypal.com/subscriptions/business=order%40inoverse.com&item_name=SD-1+%26+Setup+Fee&image_url=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/paypal.gif&no_shipping=1&return=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/thankyou_hosting.html&cancel_return=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/thankyou_cancel.html&no_note=1&a1=55.00&p1=30&t1=D&a3=35.00&p3=1&t3=M&src=1&sra=1


Thats the link I use on my site, www.inoverse.com to go t PayPal! It looks like they did it to me!

The link you posted has a problem. Your logo makes the secure cert alert pop up and ask whether I want to display the non-secure items. If you click no, then your logo does not load. If I click yes, the logo loads and the page is NOT secure.

Damon, the 'people have to sign up issue' is the main reason I wouldn't consider using paypal for anything. The only other reason might be the name itself, something which I'd be willing to overlook if direct sale was offered. Reoccurring billing seems to have been added (though last *I* checked, which was some time ago, it wasn't offered which is why I didn't consider it last time).

Just to be clear---your concerns are:

a) name would reflect PayPal, not the company
b) users have to sign-up to make a payment

Originally posted by paypaldamon
Just to be clear---your concerns are:

a) name would reflect PayPal, not the company
b) users have to sign-up to make a payment

Damon,
I think "b" would be the concern you'd find most among hosting companies- it wouldn't be expected that the company name would appear on the customer's bill, without their own merchant account. However, I'm sure it would definitely be nice for hosting companies without a merchant account to allow customers the option of not signing up for the PayPal service to use their credit card.

We, like Ericd, offer customers the option of paying via Credit Card, PayPal, or check.

I thought PayPal has launched business services in which you could accepts credit cards for people without a PayPal account.

I got this impression from this page:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/web/index-outside

I think it would be very useful to have a static demo (screenshots) of how this process works.

Originally posted by huck
I thought PayPal has launched business services in which you could accepts credit cards for people without a PayPal account.

I got this impression from this page:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/web/index-outside

I think it would be very useful to have a static demo (screenshots) of how this process works. Hmm. . . . I didn't see anything in that demo that said the purchaser needs a PayPal account either:rolleyes:
Why, then, does it make them join when they purchase off my site??
Is this a feature we can add?? Or is it just that PayPal left that part out of the demo?:rolleyes:

Damon????

paypal, you asked how many hosts use paypal or something... so here's my response.

As much as we'd like to use PayPal, because I think its a great service, I've used it in the past... we don't currently like to offer it because of the billing database issue. Its just too confusing and time consuming to keep two billing databases. I'm one of those guys who like things automatic. So for a customer to go and email me money, then I have to go check to see if I recieved it correctly, and the amount they sent. And then go into my current billing database and add a new record that they paid. For me I don't like extra steps. With credit cards, its handled by the billing database.

Now, if PayPal could create some type of API that would be able to hook into billing scripts (I currently use paypal) then I'd seriously would love to use it. Maybe paypal would send a specialized email to an address and the API in the billing script would pipe the email to the script, and read that email, noting what customer it was, and how much they paid for and then update the billing database. Something like that ya know? But it would have to be very versitle because of all the billing scripts out there.

Make sense as to what I'm talking about?

that is a very good suggestion.

Originally posted by huck
I thought PayPal has launched business services in which you could accepts credit cards for people without a PayPal account.

I got this impression from this page:
http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/web/index-outside

I think it would be very useful to have a static demo (screenshots) of how this process works.

Has anyone tried this PayPal Web Accept service. From the demo on the page, it is made to look that the purchaser does not have to be a PayPal member. Can someone try this to determine if the demo is leaving something out.

I'm sure Damon will explain it when he gets here ;)

Originally posted by Brian Farkas


Damon,
I think "b" would be the concern you'd find most among hosting companies- it wouldn't be expected that the company name would appear on the customer's bill, without their own merchant account.

'b' is the concern, and as Brian said, I don't expect my name to appear on the bill. That'd sure be nice. I've never seen how payments look in the system for reoccurring charges, if there is a system you can log into to review payment history, etc., similar to instabill.

I get lost with the API's but can see the advantage of it, just wouldn't know how to implement it, but someone would figure it out I'm sure...

Maybe I'm a moron.

However, from the text and initial impression of the Web Accept program I thought buyers did not need a PayPal account -- this is not the case. From the web site:
Your customer can click on the button and then pay you with a credit card or checking account.


Personally, I found this misleading. I would clarify this statement to say something like:
With their paypal account, your customers can click on the button and then pay you with a credit card or checking account.

The above statement is much more accurate and less misleading.


About the screenshots -- I tried the demo but did not see the navigation arrow at the top ... boy I am a moron.

Damon, I think what Chicken probably meant when referring to the name isn't what appears on the credit card statement specifically, but just that the "PayPal" name doesn't come across as a professional service for a serious business. I know one thing that I counted heavily against PayPal months ago when deciding whether to use it was that when a request for payment would have gone to a customer, the text of the email read something like: "click here to pay your friend." I don't know if it's still that way, but it didn't have the feel of a business relationship.

Thanks for all of your feedback. What modifications do you think could be made to the outgoing emails to assist? Or what items in the subscription service could be changed to fit your industry? Such as the emails displaying the host name (or something along those lines) in the outgoing emails.

I have received some really cool suggestions that will be going in my end-of-day report.

hi Damon,

The out going e-mails is a good point. If there could be a choice of personal and business transaction that would determine what type of e-mail was sent would be cool.

or even better

If the emails were a template that could be changed to our own wording would really be great.


thanks
nathan

Gotcha

I agree. Templates would be very nice. Does Paypal offer recurring billing??? I haven't seen that feature...

Originally posted by inoverse
Check this link out:
https://www.paypal.com/subscriptions/business=order%40inoverse.com&item_name=SD-1+%26+Setup+Fee&image_url=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/paypal.gif&no_shipping=1&return=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/thankyou_hosting.html&cancel_return=http%3A//www.inoverse.com/thankyou_cancel.html&no_note=1&a1=55.00&p1=30&t1=D&a3=35.00&p3=1&t3=M&src=1&sra=1
Thats the link I use on my site, www.inoverse.com to go t PayPal! It looks like they did it to me!

I went to your link, and it asked me to sign in, and had a button to sign up for PayPal if I didn't have an account. Perhaps you don't see this because of cookies?

Gary

Hey Damon!

How do I get a paypal shirt? I use paypal all the time!

Jim

Originally posted by jimb
. . . .How do I get a paypal shirt? I use paypal all the time!. . . .PM him and tell him your shirt size and shipping address. ;)

Originally posted by JayC
Damon, I think what Chicken probably meant when referring to the name isn't what appears on the credit card statement specifically, but just that the "PayPal" name doesn't come across as a professional service for a serious business. I know one thing that I counted heavily against PayPal months ago when deciding whether to use it was that when a request for payment would have gone to a customer, the text of the email read something like: "click here to pay your friend." I don't know if it's still that way, but it didn't have the feel of a business relationship.

That is exactly what I meant completely. You said what I failed to go into. I'm so happy :) I feel as though JayC is my long lost brother.

Funny thing is that I was wondering why the heck Damon mentioned the name on the billing thing. Just figured he was off on a tangent, heh. Need rest...

Since i am from india i am not able to withdraw funds from my paypal.com account so i need to spent my funds in paypal.com account in U.S.A.

I was very happy with paypal.com service until today they suspended my paypal.com account without any strong reason. I am internationally verified customer haven't done anything wrong. My company is one of the most reputable hosting company.

I have started thread on this issue. here is the link

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19415

i ask you a question what is the use of all these facilities if paypal.com suspend business account without any strong reason. If tomorrow i have thousand of dollars balance with paypal.com account and they tern me off like this where i will go then. i am sorry, if this is the case only with me. but there security system is out of my mind. i can say there security system sucks and they should do allot to update this.