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View Full Version : h-sphere win & unix ?
nachopo 09-24-2003, 11:32 AM hi,
how can h-sphere manage win and unix plans ? they are hosted in two different machines ? they are reliable ? I ask this because I read many post that ASP over unix is not reliable.
regards
RRolfe 09-25-2003, 11:53 PM Yes h-sphere can manage windows and unix plans from 1 control panel. The control panel runs on a linux machine and can manage a remote windows server. H-Sphere is reliable enough for us to run our business off of it. We feel its the best choice just due to it's flexability. All you tech support, billing, and user account's in one spot makes it alot easier to manage.
(Stephen) 09-26-2003, 01:48 AM I would also liketo say hsphere is good, it has its little issues occasionally, and if you look into buying it, there is a rather steep cost initially, but for a reseller, it is great.
I would not claim it is the most user friendly control panel by any stretch, but it is very powerful.
Also, I just wanted to clear this up, i think it was answered in post above, but it doesnt run ASP in a unix enviroment, the CP server actually controls a real windows machine, and your ASP is running on Microsoft Windows XXXX (whatever your service has installed)
you can read more about how hsphere works at www.psoft.net
Also, some people get Sphera and hsphere confused, they are NOT the same thing, I did not see that in this thread, but I have in other thread about hsphere.
dynamicnet 09-27-2003, 10:29 AM Greetings:
We've been using H-Sphere for over a year now.
It works wonderfully, and is extremely economical (cheap) over comparative systems.
The customer support forums are very active, and there are a number of helpful people who share their knowledge freely.
Technical support from the company is prompt, and accurate.
The system works well for being able to provide hosting on RedHat Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows 200x.
Thank you.
P.S. Did I mention the system provides 100% shared hosting automation for those operating systems including account provisioning (i.e. set up), fraud control, recurring billing, support ticketting system, etc.
Incognito 09-27-2003, 10:56 AM A word of caution....while Dynamicnet praises HSphere, they are successful using it because of their own knowledge, experience, and planning. Do not think you can just jump into using it. It is not just a control panel. It is a complete hosting management system. Either test and learn at length with multiple test servers or engage the assistance of someone who has extensive experience with it, such as dynamic. There are also a few providers out there who have used it quite a bit. Otherwise, you will have many issues and become frustrated. Again, the transition between control panels such as Ensim, Plesk and WHM/Cpanel is simple. The learning curve and transition to a system such as HSphere is much more complex. Furthermore, there are hundreds...even thousands....experienced and competent with Ensim, Plesk and WHM/Cpanel. There are only a few who have that same level of competency with HSPhere.
(Stephen) 09-27-2003, 04:57 PM I don't think you are correct in that statement, sure HSphere will require the admin to READ and actually know what they are doing, it isn't something that can be set up at rackshack, servermatrix and the others easily, you actually have to be able to control the box, and know how to admin a server, but I believe if you know how to do it properly, and are not afraid to read all the docs, then it is great.
(Stephen) 09-27-2003, 05:41 PM Also remember, we are in the resellers forums here, I doubt that we are talking about setting up a full hspehre cluster in this thread.
Incognito 09-27-2003, 06:31 PM I don't think you are correct in that statement, sure HSphere will require the admin to READ and actually know what they are doing, it isn't something that can be set up at rackshack, servermatrix and the others easily, you actually have to be able to control the box, and know how to admin a server, but I believe if you know how to do it properly, and are not afraid to read all the docs, then it is great. You are correct that we are in the resellers forum. They need to select their Hsphere provider carefully. My comment is probably more aimed toward the dedicated server customer. I have just seen too many people have significant trouble with the product. I recognize that much of it may have been their own lack of knowledge and experience. But, we have people jumping in over their heads here every day. My caution is simply, don't expect it to be as easy as jumping in to WHM/CPanel, Ensim, or Plesk. It has much greater functionality and, therefore, is more complex.
Frankly, I think HSphere's reputation was somewhat unfairly damaged by many who selected it early and put it on servers with customers before they (the server provider) knew what they were doing. Let's not forget that WHT is a world filled with some highly qualified admins and many more who are not ready for prime time.
efarmer 09-27-2003, 07:33 PM HSphere = CP + Billing with domain registration
Of course it has more problems, my analogy (I am not comparing or bad mouth but using failiar names here) is
HSphere Problems = WHM/Cpanel Problems + ModernBill Problems
HSphere Power = WHM/Cpanel Power + ModernBill Power
(Stephen) 09-27-2003, 09:03 PM That would have to be a cross platform WHM/Cpanel to even compare, and not just cross platformm but also cross-accessible, where a reseller could sell/manage both with jut one login. IMO, that is why hsphere is so cool, sure it has its share of problems, its billing is quirky at times, but it is very powerful, and overall, very stable.
efarmer 09-27-2003, 09:23 PM I am not trying to compare at all.
H-Sphere is very powerful, if you can control it is very beneficial.
Billing generally is too complex, who has a billing system that satisfies everybody??
rescenter 09-28-2003, 04:16 AM My own personal experience has shown me that if you put both the time and effort into setting up a complete cluster then it works amazingly well. I have heard some stories from customers that try to run the one server install.
Hsphere just needs a good deal of attention but once the thing is running its fairly easy to maintain and grow. Not to mention that hsphere support is ususally on the ball. There are some excellent posts about their support priorities in there forum btw so no need to get into hsphere's support policies here.
dynamicnet 09-28-2003, 08:50 AM Greetings:
Incognito is correct even when it comes to resellers since the shared hosting automation is complete for resellers as well.
So it does take time, planning, and reading the documentation.
Positive Software has done an awesome job at making sure the documentation is present, and complete. They take constructive criticism on the documentation, and they make changes when appropriate.
A solid H-Sphere provider will know the system well enough to hold the hands of the reseller to ensure they have set up the fraud control properly, automated domain name registration properly, etc.
Thank you.
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