Hello all,

I know CPanel 8 has been out for few weeks at least already, but only on the edge versions. Today the Release versions are out as well, anyone care to give it a try yet? Any new features etc..

Whats everyones opinion about this.

http://layer2.cpanel.net

Please Vote for the Poll.

yes, i know there was another thread about this, just wanted to see some poll results :)

at this rate there will be cPanel 50 by Christmas :P

DirectAdmin and Ensim Pro are THE way :)

Originally posted by Stephen
at this rate there will be cPanel 50 by Christmas :P

Agreed. They're being pretty stupid about. This is actually like version 6.5.

Anyway, I'm going to wait a bit more before upgrading my box to 8.0.

Originally posted by UltimeWWW
DirectAdmin and Ensim Pro are THE way :)

Uh yeah... but is this thread about Ensim or Direct Admin? Uh... No I don't think so. Good bye.

K, i've said this many times before.

My Opinion:

Cpanel should really slow down a bit with the updates, and just continue improving their previous versions, especially with the security.

The more features and options they add through each update, the more exploits and bugs there will be.

There are already i think, enough features with CPanel, but now, the issue is concerning Security and Stability.

just my 2c :cool:

Originally posted by Hoobastank68
K, i've said this many times before.

My Opinion:

Cpanel should really slow down a bit with the updates, and just continue improving their previous versions, especially with the security.

The more features and options they add through each update, the more exploits and bugs there will be.

There are already i think, enough features with CPanel, but now, the issue is concerning Security and Stability.

just my 2c :cool:


When did this change of heart come about?

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156873

What are the new features in 8.0?

Originally posted by dbbrock1
What are the new features in 8.0?

Was there a difference from 6 to 7 other than the addition of XSKin 2.0 as the default theme?

pwnt :D

Originally posted by blue27
When did this change of heart come about?

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=156873

It eventually did

I don't see any new features myself, and it seems to be running fine.

The webmail page is updated. Looks much better.

They are just like Microsoft. They keep adding on features without bothering fixing bugs and security holes with the current version. I don't know why more people don't use Ensim.

in cPanel 7.x what's the difference between x and x2 skins?

I am tempted to upgrade, but I think I will stay with the stable for now..

Originally posted by Q_Max
They are just like Microsoft. They keep adding on features without bothering fixing bugs and security holes with the current version. I don't know why more people don't use Ensim.

:rolleyes:

No problems here and we've been up to our eyeballs in CPanel for a few years now. Don't like Ensim so we don't use it - now you know ;)

Originally posted by Q_Max
They are just like Microsoft. They keep adding on features without bothering fixing bugs and security holes with the current version. I don't know why more people don't use Ensim.

Heh... so you're saying Ensim is secure and oh-so-wonderful? ;)

So far, those who upgraded to Release 2 managed to kill their email.

But there are a lot of improvements in the new builds, so hopefully when the STABLE comes out, it'll be what it should be, stable.

Originally posted by dbbrock1
What are the new features in 8.0?

Maybe they will finally spell things correctly...

cPanel has to be the most embarrassing piece of software I have used as far as grammar and spelling goes. Most free software I have used is better.

:angry:

It makes my company look bad to offer a control panel with crap misspellings like "automagicly" and "automaticlly" embedded in it.

:uzi: cPanel

Originally posted by Simpli-Erica
Maybe they will finally spell things correctly...


In the changelogs, I noticed that they did make several changes for their spelling mistakes. :)

Originally posted by RossMAN
in cPanel 7.x what's the difference between x and x2 skins? All I can see is different icons and colours...

And a cooler looking toolbarwith gradients too! :D












...And the ability to see how much room each directory is taking.

What happened to 8.0 release and 8.0 stable? Why is it at 8.2 release already, and what happened to 8.1? Looks to me as if they're trying to pass AOL in version numbers quickly, without doing much of anything in terms of changes. What about the fully functional cluster feature, that was supposed to be available by 6.2? Where is that now?

Looking through the changelog

Sat Sep 13 01:09:19 EDT 2003
8.x Build#41
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Suicide is not an option... prevent resellers from
removing themselves


At least they have a sense of humor :D

We are now running 8.2.0-R2 no problems yet, but i agree that less frequent updates with a greater number of improvements would be better i think.

quote:
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Originally posted by RossMAN
in cPanel 7.x what's the difference between x and x2 skins?
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All I can see is different icons and colours...

And a cooler looking toolbarwith gradients too!
And the woman at the top of x2 that wasn't in x?

its kinda funny how people constantly complain about stuff, but yet they still use the products the complain about.

its kinda funny how people constantly complain about stuff, but yet they still use the products the complain about.
Interesting how that works isn't it? Kinda reminds me of some relationships.

in cPanel 7.x what's the difference between x and x2 skins?

Just a pretty face.

yes,, i think too much updates, i think they can work more in windows edition which is in %81 completed since years

Just upgraded one server to cPanel 8.2 R :)

8.2?? It was 8.0 E40 three days ago.

piramida, take a look http://layer2.cpanel.net

Originally posted by net-trend
In the changelogs, I noticed that they did make several changes for their spelling mistakes. :)

Accounts still get 'suspened' though. The d's been missing from that word for as long as I can remember :D At least it's not on the customer's side of things I suppose.

Originally posted by akashik
Accounts still get 'suspened' though. The d's been missing from that word for as long as I can remember :D At least it's not on the customer's side of things I suppose.

Hmm, where did you see that? What skin are you using as well? :eek:

I upgraded to 8.2 R4 and it's pretty stable... nothing happened. cPanel does increment version numbers pretty quickly, but it's their decision on how they want to represent changes.

Originally posted by vivehosting
I upgraded to 8.2 R4 and it's pretty stable... nothing happened. cPanel does increment version numbers pretty quickly, but it's their decision on how they want to represent changes.


Can you post a list of new features + changes, fixes? Thanks :cool:

cpanel has a changelog somewhere in their site... look around. I read through it before I decided to update in case there was a big change that could pose a problem. cPanel hardly added new features, they basically made spelling corrections, updated the webmail interface, and fixed many bugs.

Originally posted by net-trend
Hmm, where did you see that? What skin are you using as well? :eek:

Under Suspend/Unsuspend Accounts. Poke a site, and suspend it, the resulting information page shows 'suspened' as it always has.

Skin is X2 (or default, or whatever they call it now) :)

Originally posted by akashik
Under Suspend/Unsuspend Accounts. Poke a site, and suspend it, the resulting information page shows 'suspened' as it always has.

Skin is X2 (or default, or whatever they call it now) :)

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Have you submitted a ticket regarding this? I guess they didn't notice. :eek:

No ticket from me. It's just cosmetic, and it's on the WHM side so not a great concern.

Originally posted by akashik
No ticket from me. It's just cosmetic, and it's on the WHM side so not a great concern.

Submitted it for ya :)

Looks like we're up to Release 23 Now...last night it was Release 4 or 3 I believe :eek3:

I can imaging when the bring out cPanel 8.xx when there are major improvements but for now I stay at 7.4.2 because it's stable. And I don't believe this give the improvements you may aspect from 8.xx till now

We've upgraded to 8.2, and everything so far has run just fine.

Originally posted by inogenius
Was there a difference from 6 to 7 other than the addition of XSKin 2.0 as the default theme? I believe it was Exim 4.

Updated all our servers here to Cpanel 8.2.0-R23.
Some new features in WHM.
IP:
IP Migration Wizard (BETA)

EMAIL:
View Relayers

That's all I've noticed compaired to cPanel 7.

I would like to see the clustering feature working soon.

I would like to see the clustering feature working soon.


Ditto. :)

RELEASE
8.4.0-RELEASE_72
(Sun Sep 28 20:27:26 2003)


WOW, this morning it was Release 28, jumped from 28 to 72...
Amazing :cool:

It is getting truly sad the way they are jumping versions :(

I wish they get head out of a$$ and fix the damn bugs first!!!

I wish they get head out of a$$ and fix the damn bugs first!!!
Isn't that what all those 'fix' scripts are for? We know how nicely those fix things especially that 'fixeverything' script that does such a lovely job of doing nothing. ;)

Originally posted by Alex042
Isn't that what all those 'fix' scripts are for? We know how nicely those fix things especially that 'fixeverything' script that does such a lovely job of doing nothing. ;)


I sure wish they'd fix everything, if they did, i'm sure many of us here wouldn't be asking for more security/bugs fixed.

Seems like we're up to release 83

Release 83 it would be. They really do need to get down to business and start actually fixing things now. Although this version seems just a little less buggy, but still plenty of things wrong.

Ok, here goes the detail of the last Sat/Sun work on cPanel. Yep the version changes so fast, but they'd done some work on some important issues, like those in Build#68 and Build#73... While at the same time, many Build came out without any ChangeLog--hence lightning fast, version change.


(from http://layer1.cpanel.net/ChangeLog)
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Sat Sep 27 12:14:45 EDT 2003
8.x Build#60
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graceful shutdown for cpanel daemons
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Sat Sep 27 12:21:57 EDT 2003
8.x Build#61
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fix spelling/grammer problems
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Sat Sep 27 12:44:50 EDT 2003
8.x Build#62
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fix a problem with jailshell leaving mess in /proc/mounts on some systems
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Sat Sep 27 12:54:34 EDT 2003
8.x Build#63
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fix a problem with jailshell not cleaning up /usr/sbin or /var/log
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Sat Sep 27 13:10:48 EDT 2003
8.x Build#64
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support split_spool_directory and mailscanner
for removing all messages in the mailqueue
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Sun Sep 28 13:02:47 EDT 2003
8.x Build#65
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addon domain redirection
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Sun Sep 28 13:57:06 EDT 2003
8.x Build#66
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fix a problem with vfilters setting permissions on mailboxes to
0600 instead of 0660

(you must re-save the vfilter in cPanel for this to take effect)
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Sun Sep 28 14:07:54 EDT 2003
8.x Build#67
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commit the last change in the changelog
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Sun Sep 28 14:47:18 EDT 2003
8.x Build#68
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fix some problems with mailman mails not getting
sent out and sender verifcation problems with exim
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Sun Sep 28 20:11:00 EDT 2003
8.x Build#69
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RELEASE

8.x - STABLE should be out in 48 hours if all is well
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Sun Sep 28 20:15:36 EDT 2003
8.x Build#70
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Sun Sep 28 20:21:12 EDT 2003
8.x Build#71
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add a new line for redirects
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Sun Sep 28 20:25:18 EDT 2003
8.x Build#72
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Sun Sep 28 22:38:04 EDT 2003
8.x Build#73
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fix a problem with transfering the mysql user pass and privs
when copying an account
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Sun Sep 28 22:47:33 EDT 2003
8.x Build#74
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use complete insert
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Sun Sep 28 22:55:24 EDT 2003
8.x Build#75
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fix a problem with content-types for vfilter and valias backups
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Sun Sep 28 23:48:38 EDT 2003
8.x Build#76
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addon domain move support (beta)
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Mon Sep 29 01:09:55 EDT 2003
8.x Build#77
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fix a few problems with addon domain move support
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Mon Sep 29 01:20:39 EDT 2003
8.x Build#78
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only allow -z for rsync 2.5.5 or later
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Mon Sep 29 01:43:05 EDT 2003
8.x Build#79
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add an option to force the setup of addon domains
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Mon Sep 29 11:36:59 EDT 2003
8.x Build#80
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update the mailman install script to work around a bash bug
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Mon Sep 29 11:48:22 EDT 2003
8.x Build#81
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Mon Sep 29 11:54:12 EDT 2003
8.x Build#82
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fix a path problem with the mailman install script
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Mon Sep 29 11:58:07 EDT 2003
8.x Build#83
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Well they fixed some issues, but what about the other 100 bugs? ;)

STABLE
8.4.0-STABLE_87
(Tue Sep 30 16:04:39 2003)

Anyone tried it yet? :cool:

Not yet,
I guess next month there will be CPanel 9 and so on.. :)

We're up to the latest stable release on both our servers and the servers I admin. Everything seems to be running fairly well so far with no problems. I will keep you updated.

STABLE
8.4.0-STABLE_87
(Tue Sep 30 16:04:39 2003)

Anyone tried it yet?
Looks like we got the upgrade overnight so I guess we'll find out but I don't expect too many issues yet.

The only major change I see is to end users logging into webmail now have access to forwarding and autoresponders without the master account having to log into cPanel to set these things up for e-mail users.

We upgraded too the stable 8.4.0 no problems so far we will see later on.

Still as of now no problems to report yet. Hopefully things are running smooth for everyone else as well. I just wish now that they would close up the holes in the software and slow down a little.

Well at least this stable release is STABLE so far. ;)

Yeah so far the stable release is running stable.

Originally posted by CrazyTech
Still as of now no problems to report yet. Hopefully things are running smooth for everyone else as well. I just wish now that they would close up the holes in the software and slow down a little.

Holes?

Holes = features not working, incorrect grammar/typos (though this seems to be getting better), and so on.

Just upgraded to latest stable 8, so far everything looks fine :cool:

Whats major features added?

Sat Sep 27 12:21:57 EDT 2003
8.x Build#61
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fix spelling/grammer problems

Hmmm.....

:emlaugh:

What happened to the bluelagoon skin? Permanently replaced by the x skin?

The bluelagoon skin isn't supported. However, someone has created and Xlagoon skin which is pretty good.

The website is:
http://cptheme.tlcwe.com/

I find it highly annoying that they saw fit to change what was universally one of the most liked Cpanel themes. So, they took it, and threw that big dumb crappy picture at the top.

Yet another thing that Cpanel didn't think through before acting. What the hell happens to the 'branding' feature now? We just bin that so we can look at that stupid huge picture that looks like something off a Timmah run hosting site?

I know I loved the skin and really don't see why they threw it out either myself. It was a great skin and not so fake looking like the ones are now. All the X skins look the same to me with the exeception of a few small differences.

As for the above skin I posted, the person did it because they didn't like Blue Lagoon's removal either. Not as good as ole' blue, but as close as you're going to get unless you go custom.

RELEASE
8.5.1-RELEASE_2
(Sun Oct 12 21:47:34 2003)

EDGE
8.5.3-EDGE_1
(Mon Oct 13 16:21:23 2003)


By the end of this year we're going to have CPanel 10.. :D

Look at attachment for list of changes for 8.5* :)

heh...maybe they can get to Cpanel 15 by the end of November.

Why do they waste their time on things like making an interface for the mailperms script, when they could be adding things that are truly useful? I just don't get it...

cpanel is still missing a lot of things that require manual editing. I'll be glad when some of these are included.

At this rate of upgrades, I may as well just wait for cPanel 10 before I do anything. And what's up with that bug where resellers still can't edit accounts after they've created them?

And what's up with that bug where resellers still can't edit accounts after they've created them?
What kind of editing?

DNS edit hava A new Bug :D

Originally posted by forumtalk
DNS edit hava A new Bug :D

Wonder if anyone bothers to submit any bug reports to cpanel....

if you know any bugs, submit it to http://support.cpanel.net/index.cgi?bugreport=1

:D

Definitely report any problems you come up against. This will only serve to benefit everyone.

/scripts/updatenow ; /scripts/upcp ; service cpanel stop ; service cpanel start

The Problem is can't save dns.