I hope I'm not offending anybody here, but why do most host say "no adult content"?

I mean as long as it's not illegal why should they care whats on the server?

Wouldn't it be similar to say "no gun content"? Sex and violence are both sensitive issues?

Is it because of the supposedly higher bandwidth? If so, did anyone actually ever prove the basis of that? And again, what should anybody care as long as you remain within the limits you pay for?

(No, not considering opening an adult website, I'm just curious :-)

Well peopel try to break into porn sites and get free porn, thats why in general its not allowed, its risking your server to attack...



Also, most hosts are disallowing sites that have hatefull themes and sexual themes...

What ProHacker said is true. Also, such sites get many visitors, resulting in higher server load and more bandwidth.

I would say the main reason is probably more of a business issue than a moral issue. Porn sites use tons of bandwidth. Bandwidth is expensive.

All of the sites offering "ulimited" transfer would have to start living up to their word. Also, most hosts offering even 20 gigs of transfer would have to be more careful -- many hosts offering that much transfer can only do so because theyre counting on not everyone using all 20 gigs. But if their prices were cheap enough and they didnt have a rule against adult content, porn sites would move in and use the bandwidth to it's fullest, costing the hosting company a lot of money.

Jeremy

i also heard that a host can be liable for a clients crimes, if he has child pornography, or illegal thigns of this sort.

I'm quite sure this is true.

Am i wrong?

they just don't want to be involved in this kind of business AT ALL :)

Some clients don't want to be hosted on same server with porn sites. We receive few queries, which confirm that we do not support adult site.

I believe they must be concerned about the server load.

We dumped a host a while back that we had some sites on. During a rather annoying buy-out by another company we started to worry that our clients sites would be placed on the same server as a couple of porn sites. While we have nothing against these sites per say, we felt that given the nature of our clients (1 in particular) that being next door to an adult site would be a big problem. We have since moved those clients to another host that enforces a no porn, mo warez policy, resulting in a much securer and faster enviroment.

I'm new at WHT and i saw this subject "no adult content" and I was wondering do you guys no any hosts that do allow adult content.


-Tony

You may try the adult hosting directory. to find an adult hosting service.

http://adult.tophosts.com/

You may also find this one helpful...

http://www.FindAdultHosts.com/

Deb

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Originally posted by Kaith Sutai-Rustaz
We have since moved those clients to another host that enforces a no porn, mo warez policy, resulting in a much securer and faster enviroment.
No porn, mo' warez! :D

I think you guys forgot one important reason:

When hosts advertise $10 for 10GB transfer, they assume you will use 1gb per month so that they can make money. For a porn site, it eats 10GB like nothing, so they lose money.

Originally posted by cybahomie

No porn, mo' warez! :D

I wish. :) (typos, aint they grand?)

two words: Fox News

They say that no publicity is bad publicity, but when a co-located server was mis-identified by Fox News as ours, and we were called pornographers in front of the Boston Metro audience, it didn't exactly enhance our reputation.

I think that the policy of 'no adult content' is a little too vague. But then in a country where there is no legal definition of pornography, other than "I know it when I see it".

Some time ago, a guy was looking for a host for a dirty jokes site he was putting together. It was not going to attract the same level of traffic that **********.com or <censored>.com would, nor would it require the same amount of bandwidth that a site with streaming media, downloadable images, etc., would.

Because of the rules against adult content, he was having a heck of a time finding inexpensive hosting. Resellers' hands are tied by the policies of the companies they resell for.

I think one of the reasons customers don't want to be hosted on the same server as a porn site, is they are afraid somehow it's going to get served up when someone goes to load their page. I'm surprised they don't have laws that state you can't host a porn site within 500 feet of a school or daycare center, or you can't host a porn site on the same server as sites oriented towards young people.

one reason we found was that in some countries ISP's will block there users from accessing a web hosts page if they allow adult content - we had a conversation with a customer from the Middle East who couldn't get to the site of his host because his ISP had banned it

shorty

Thanks for the many replies. I think Phoenix is the one closest to the real reason - that some people are too busy judging what other people are doing.

I understand the notion that porn might generate more views, but frankly, there are a lot of non-porn related stuff that could generate the same high views. I don't know what is normal but I have had sites with 3gb monthly (non porn) traffic that constantly was consumed without even being billed extra for it. I really think that "reason" is just an excuse.

For shorty: I agree that a few radical countries might block IP's known to contain porn, but how many would share IP with any other site? All the sites I know of provide me with my "own" IP address (on which I might host multiple sites, but all mine). But frankly, is the political views of a few arab countries really enough to dictate the business policies of the western world?

Again, thanks for the replies, it is interesting to hear the different opinions and views, even if one doesn't necessarily have to agree with them all
:beer:

Bandwidth, Bandwidth, watch the Bandwidth gooooooo. A very high majority of the webhosts that I have looked at give package pricing with xx amount of bandwidth that can not actually be supplied at the package price without the company winning the national belly flop championships. In other words adults sites use up most if not all the alotted bandwidth and there for means $$$ destruction of the company, that is why webhost gear specificly towards the adult industry have higher prices. :smokin:

Well, I have to agree with madsere

"I understand the notion that porn might generate more views, but frankly, there are a lot of non-porn related stuff that could generate the same high views. I understand the notion that porn might generate more views, but frankly, there are a lot of non-porn related stuff that could generate the same high views. I don't know what is normal but I have had sites with 3gb monthly (non porn) traffic that constantly was consumed without even being billed extra for it. I really think that "reason" is just an excuse."

If a network has the ability to host a large non-adult site they have just as much ability to support adult sites. I dont think you would see any decent host run away from someone who needs more bandwidth. I mean, what the *&$^ is a host for if it cant supply extra bandwidth.
And bandwidth wont make you broke if you have alot of it, as a matter of fact the more you can sell, the cheaper you can get it. The bandwidth theory simply makes no sence for a good size host as far as hosting adult sites...

The main reason I think that most stay away from it is that it requires more hardware (cgi-trade scripts are very intensive, especially perl) and more monitoring, more security issues, more copywrite issues, ect..,

And as far as price, I have seen some pricing in adult markets that are far more competitive than average non-adult.

Bad business model for some hosts (if your not prepared for it) especially considering that some clients use close to an average T-1 on shared accounts, many other hosts do extremely well hosting adult content, There are many adult hosts that have been around since 95, the dont seem to have gone under...

just my $2.20

Just remember a Popular xxx site using 500 MB of space and burn up to 300 GB of space in a month.

-Andy

Originally posted by madsere

I understand the notion that porn might generate more views, but frankly, there are a lot of non-porn related stuff that could generate the same high views. I don't know what is normal but I have had sites with 3gb monthly (non porn) traffic that constantly was consumed without even being billed extra for it. I really think that "reason" is just an excuse.


I think many people here will tell you that 3 gb of monthly traffic is nothing for a porn site. That is the problem. A relatively small porn site with a bunch of free images on it could burn through 10 times that or more. I agree that some people don't want to deal with porn because of the moral or legal issues, but it isn't fair to write off the technical ones.

-joe

We had 2 accounts that were run by 2 ladies that posted on TGP's. Each account was bringing in 50+ gig of data transfer PER DAY.

This is the main reason besides the stigma of pornography on your companies servers why most hosting firms stay away from adult content sites.

If they would have paid for the 50 gig of data transfer per day we would be more than happy to server thier needs, unfortunately it is all garbage traffic and there is little or no money to be made of it.

Be very careful with these free adult content sites, they can bring a server to it's knees very quickly if you cannot handle the traffic they generate.