http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,7220642%255E662,00.html

The ARIA isnt sueing over file sharing..

Whats your thoughts/opinions? :)

Neither will the Canadian association. heh.

The US market is the largest (I believe) so they're gonna try and scare people there. They just sued a 12 yr old who pays Kazaa a monthly fee. Go figure that one out.

heh.. the RIAA are too extreme IMO..

The RIAA are worse the Al Queda.

At last Australia isnt following America like a puppy.

Originally posted by xgenesis
At last Australia isnt following America like a puppy. Agreed! :D

But our prime minister is following bush like one.

Originally posted by xgenesis
At last Australia isnt following America like a puppy.
Which is a surprise because they usually do, or at least our Prime Minister does.

Doc

Yes, true, finally we are a free thinking country on at least one topic. Still I won't use Kazaa as I am morally opposed to it. Plus not a big music listener so that helps lol.

The Dutch equivalent officially said they wouldn't sue or otherwise go after the people using Kazaa a few months back, yet about a month ago news leaked that they were unofficially considering going after a few Kazaa users, just to set an example.

The moral: Never believe what they tell you, just assume the worst.

Ultimately,METALLIC are the 1's to blame for all this RIAA crap now,lets not forget where to direct our anger!!!!

The Dude :angry:

True The Dude.. very true.. :(

:topic:

JackMitchell
Its.. Its.. Its.. ALIVE!!

Excuse me Mr Mitchell, where were you standing and what were you doing when you discovered It was alive

Doc

Metallica is so stupid now. I read some quotes where they said they would never sue anyone for stealing their music, and that they would never make videos on MTV.

f*** MTV, music videos are for *******

or something other.

SELLOUTS

Originally posted by The Dude
Ultimately,METALLIC are the 1's to blame for all this RIAA crap now,lets not forget where to direct our anger!!!!

I've seen you post your hate for metallica in all the RIAA threads so far. It's tiring and false. Do you really believe that if Metalica hadn't gone after napster first then no other group or artist would have? Or that this wouldn't be happening now?

People are breaking the law. The RIAA can't stop them easily as they have left it too late and it's gone global. They are now taking action in the way they deem best possible to quel the situation. Alot of parents will have spoken with their children about sharing music after this incident and alot of adults and children will have stopped sharing music. It won't stop piracy but it will stop alot of the casual pirates.

Many of us download music. We might hear a song on the radio and want to hear it again, we might want to find an unreleased song that's out there, or download some songs from other albums of artists we already own a few albums for. I know many people who do this from all walks of life (including people in the music industry). Many also buy alot of albums and some do not. Very few download music instead of buying CD's. I would assume this is pretty much the case in western europe and America and Australia where large amounts of legal western music is available.

The RIAA are using misinformation and libalous claims to bring p2p to its knees (You can read two transcripts from the President of the RIAA and the president of Sharmen networks here (http://www.senate.com) but they know it is a long fight and one they cannot win. They arent all stupid and they dont have just stupid people working for them. They are trying to protect the industry they have built up over the last X years. (I don't mean the music industry I mean the RIAA abusing artists to gain profits). If you have a way of making billions of dollars a year you dont let it go without a fight.

EDIT : link doesnt seem to work at the moment so I copied them to a text file (see next page).

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I'm using Verizon, keep up the fight boys! :argue:

:flamethr: RIAA

:usflag:

Anyways, we're :topic: !

This is supposed to be about ARIA, Not RIAA!!

Has anyone actually known anyone to get caught for filesharing? I haven't... If you know anyone that's gotten caught explain a lil what happened... Hopefully firewall software is good enuff to block 'em aria/riaa hackers. ;)

- Shawn

I think Kazaa lite and a good firewall would do the trick. Not sure how they're catching people.

Kazaa Lite has an inbuilt feature to stop RIAA ips.

Originally posted by etogre
I think Kazaa lite and a good firewall would do the trick. Not sure how they're catching people.

Probably because alot of people have neither of these. I assume the RIAA have somesort of bot software that downloads songs from people and checks all their other files then checks the ip they are downloading from. Once you make a direct connection with another computer they have access to your ip.

Ohh sweet, I shud be set and safe then. :) peace -

lol you shouldnt blame metallica, you should blame your own dumb ass for breaking the law.

they're breaking the law too

who? the RIAA? even if they are it doesnt make trading copyrighted material any more legal. You still deserve 20 years to life in a 6 x 6 with bubba and no lubricant.q

yeah the riaa, theyre hacking and gettin away wit it. dude just shut up ok youre on your own

Who is there to say there is a price on art? I don't tune-in with this whole RIAA bull****.

If I made the MP3 (by purchasing the CD and converting it), and put it on a file-network, I have not broken any laws! If someone else downloads it from me, and they have the CD too, then it is completely legal. The RIAA can't tell if you own a CD or not over the internet, so basically this whole game has no merit in my eyes.

The RIAA is a useless organization and once the artists notice this they will be no longer. Do you think the artist's see a dime more in their pocket everytime the RIAA sues? Not really.

MP3's actually promote people to buy CDs, and there are correlations to prove this, search google and see. Why the RIAA would resort to hacking (I see it as that, you may have different views, but it's the same thing :) ) to stop something that is seriously helping them, is so messed up. They are trashing their reputation in the process. Who the hell sues a 12 year old girl over previewing songs to go and buy more CDs. That is so f*cked up it seems unreal. Some people are stupid I guess.

Now what's truly a crime is the huge overprice of CDs. And I thought there were laws that helped prevent that!

Well...

In a sense both parties are wrong

The ARIA/RIAA for hacking and the users for sharing.. which technically in my eyes shouldnt be illegal. Its just like sharing a radio,,

PencWeb, maybe you are the one who should zip it. Richy is certainly not alone in this matter. You can all bitch and cry and moan and stamp you feet about what a bad guy RIAA is, and if you were doing it for the right reasons, IE: their methods are heavy handed, then I might have a little respect for you. But to say they are bad guys because you have some sort of right to be a common thief and steal music you have no credibility.
Whether you people like it or not, sharing copyright music IS against the law. It's as much against the law as if you made a bunch of copies and started giving them away.
You can argue the point all day and you will still be breaking the law.
You don't have a god given right to have this music. If the prices are too high and you can't afford it, tough luck. I can't afford a Jaguar, does that give me the right to go out and steal one?

If you want to hurt RIAA, hit them in the pocket book. Use a little intelligence and initiative and organize boycotts of music stores. If music stores can't sell the CDs the effects will reverberate all the way up the line.
But if you choose to break the law and defend it, all you are doing is giving RIAA more amunition to work with.

You might not have the funds to purchase a Jaguar and it would be taking somebodies else's property and thereby depriving them of there property if you were to go and simply help yourself to one (Jaguar) however you are free to make a digital copy (photograph) of the Jaguar and you can keep this digital copy and you can freely distribute this digital copy.

"The law says no lawsuit may be brought that alleges copyright infringement based on the "noncommercial use by a consumer of such a (digital audio recording device) or medium for making digital musical recordings." The latest generation of multimedia PCs that are equipped with CD and DVD burners may qualify as a digital audio recording device, the thinking goes, which would mean the AHRA applies."

Food for thought.

:idea:

Doc

Ok then Doc, for your argument to hold water, you can argue that people can take a picture of their CD and distribute it anywhere they like.
It still doesn't justify distributing the content.

The laws have to many loopholes and we will soon loose our basic freedoms with groups like the RIAA taking to much authority. So let's enjoy, let the X destroy your spinal cord, so it's not a straight line no more, so we end up looking like windup dolls.

But seriously, I can see a gov't agency hacking for copyrgiht infringment, but not a greedy corporate empire that is failing miserably and not addressing the issue at hand -- cheaper CDs.

Remember, I am the boycott RIAA guy who doesn't even like music, or have KaZaA!

lol.. but isnt the copyright law only broken when you SELL the copied music? :confused:

Interesting point, I don't know about that though.

Listen you morning theaving slime, I'm not on my own, I have the legal system any anybody with enough morals not to marry their sister on my side.
Sure maybe the RIAA are breaking the law, doesnt make what your doing right. Makes you both wrong so maybe you should stop making yourself look like an utter fool and a criminal and go tell your sister its all over and your dumping her for the dachshund round the corner.

no copyright law is broken anytime you duplicate copyrighted material otherwise sun could give out free copies of ms office couldnt they?

I agree with etogre all the way... Yeah and for real, I thought it was only illegal if you fricken SELL the copyrighted material -- we're only being good teens and SHARING, now can you get any more nice than that? ;)

peace

ps: richy, i love you

If they had their way, only commercial electronics would have a record button.

What the hell does that mean :P

I agree with etogre all the way... Yeah and for real, I thought it was only illegal if you fricken SELL the copyrighted material

You can agree all you like, you will still be wrong.
You are legally allowed to make one copy for personal use.
Offering it up for grabs on a file sharing program, whether for financial gain or not, is illegal.
Before you guys come here and make claims and start patting each other on the back and agreeing with each other, why not do a little research on what the real laws are and not just what the laws of public opinion are.

ok whatever man, youre the chef

blue its worse in eurpope, commercial software you can usually keep 1 personal copy but as for music you aren allowed to. No fair use act here. But thats their rules, its their choice to make these rules, my reaction rather then to break the law is just listen to webradio more.