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Fred
08-14-2001, 12:30 PM
The rackshack.net $10 plan offers Unlimited Hits and Transfers, eeeek, Im nervous about this...

RescueHst
08-14-2001, 12:32 PM
Dont be ......

Look under the cobalt forum and youll know why, or do a search for their name.

There is a lot of good reviews for them, and discussions on how they do this.

B-Broker
08-14-2001, 05:05 PM
<<MOD EDIT:>>
Thread has *nothing* to do with *****, please stop mentioning them in every thread. It is getting tiresome.
<</MOD EDIT>>

creepcolony
08-14-2001, 05:05 PM
wait are you saying they really do offer unlimited bandwidth?
i emailed them asking a few days ago but never got a response :(

B-Broker
08-14-2001, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by creepcolony
...unlimited bandwidth...

:erm:

:sickface:

:puke:

:D

RescueHst
08-14-2001, 05:14 PM
Like anyone needs unlimited bandwith...
However I beleive I read in an article about rackshack, they have a surplus of bandwith due to buying out another company or sorts.

you'd find more info in the colbalt section of these forums

cbaker17
08-14-2001, 08:08 PM
You people never understand there is no such thing as unlimited or surplus bandwidth, they have to pay hundreds of dollars a meg of transfer whether they use it or not.

RescueHst
08-14-2001, 08:48 PM
Hell if they want to offer it, and pay for it then it exhists.
Do you really think that a company like Rackshack and EV1 are going to be stupid enough to advertise something they cant provide?

They would have some very big legal troubles, and so far being on this service they have provided me with eveything they have promised and much more.

I think it just comes down to those people who say they cant do it... must prove them wrong is what I would say because anything can be done if you want it to.

Chicken
08-14-2001, 09:00 PM
The term is wrong, it annoys everyone. Bottom line.

SI-Chris
08-14-2001, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by B-Broker
<<MOD EDIT:>>
Thread has *nothing* to do with *****, please stop mentioning them in every thread. It is getting tiresome.
<</MOD EDIT>> Thank you.

avara
08-14-2001, 10:05 PM
Basically, as I understand it, Rackshack offer unlimited bandwidth as long as your web site does not slow down other users on the same server. This means that 99+% of users will never have to worry about their bandwidth usage.

And OF COURSE you won't be able to run your UBB board with 50 GB of transfers per month. In Rackshack's AUP it clearly states that if you use so many server resources that other users on the same server are affected, they reserve the right to terminate your account.

I do not believe they are abusing the term unlimited, as you are granted unlimited bandwidth as long as you stay within their AUP.

I can't understand why some people are so annoyed by unlimited. I admit that some hosts abuse it, but many don't. Bottom line.

SoftWareRevue
08-14-2001, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by avara
I can't understand why some people are so annoyed by unlimited. I admit that some hosts abuse it, but many don't. Bottom line.
Well, them's the ones we talkin' about:rolleyes:
It shouldn't be allowed to be offered; if it doesn't exist.

creepcolony
08-14-2001, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by avara
Basically, as I understand it, Rackshack offer unlimited bandwidth as long as your web site does not slow down other users on the same server. This means that 99+% of users will never have to worry about their bandwidth usage.

And OF COURSE you won't be able to run your UBB board with 50 GB of transfers per month. In Rackshack's AUP it clearly states that if you use so many server resources that other users on the same server are affected, they reserve the right to terminate your account.

I do not believe they are abusing the term unlimited, as you are granted unlimited bandwidth as long as you stay within their AUP.

I can't understand why some people are so annoyed by unlimited. I admit that some hosts abuse it, but many don't. Bottom line.

would a site that uses about 10gig a month from html pages and 50gig a month from file downloads be resource intensive?

multipleimage
08-15-2001, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by k9brian
Dont be ......

Look under the cobalt forum and youll know why, or do a search for their name.

There is a lot of good reviews for them, and discussions on how they do this.

Do you work for rackshack? Most threads I have seen on here bashes them. Although we do have those head surfer threads too

:dunce:

avara
08-15-2001, 06:38 AM
Originally posted by creepcolony


would a site that uses about 10gig a month from html pages and 50gig a month from file downloads be resource intensive?

As long as those files are within the AUP and do not contain any warez or adult content, and don't load the server so heavily that other useres are slowed down, I would assume this would be fine. Again I do not work for Rackshack. Just look at some of my previous posts and you'll find that I've been quick to complain. ;)

OneNetDesign
08-15-2001, 10:56 AM
I've never really seen or heard anyone that has signed up for "just ten bucks" with rackshack.net


Just don't provide huge file downloads and resource intensive scripts and you will do fine.


I didn't sign up with them because of the set up fee.

creepcolony
08-15-2001, 05:31 PM
most of my files are under 1mb and none of them are over 5mb

creepcolony
08-15-2001, 11:06 PM
i talked with a rackshacksales guy on icq and this is what he said:

me: ok so 50gb bandwidth from html pages and file downloads is ok?
him: As long as you are in accordance with our AUP, and aslong as you do not use streaming audio or video that should be fine
me: ok so 50gb bandwidth from html pages and file downloads is ok?
him: if the amount of transfer is so great that is causes a noticable bogging down of the network then we might take action
him: but from what I have been told, that should be fine

JBIZ718
08-16-2001, 03:03 AM
Can people just stopping using Unlimited

I mean its just rediculus, im currently thinking about coming up with a company that has unlimited downtime, to see what type of reaction that gets.

I mean this is just crazy, that word sickens many:crap:

Mike the newbie
08-16-2001, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by JBIZ718
Can people just stopping using Unlimited

...
Will Microsoft stop calling their software secure? Of course not. It is a marketing thing.

I dislike it as much as you, but the use of the word unlimited pulls in prospective cusomters.

creepcolony
08-16-2001, 09:51 AM
i usually ignore unlimited bandwidth hosts but now i'm really desperate!

btw i emailed rackshack and they replied:

yes you can

Sincerely Yours,

Robert Pennington, MCSE
Vice President Technical Support
Everyones Internet
(713) 400-5400

-----Original Message-----
From: Creepcolony@aol.com [mailto:Creepcolony@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 9:56 PM
To: askmesurfer@rackshack.net
Subject: question about virtual server plan


Can I host a 60gb bandwidth site on your virtual server plan? It does not
have message boards or streaming audio/video...it is mostly file downloads.

blofish
08-16-2001, 10:03 PM
Let me explain to you the system of how unlimited bandwidth plans work.

Basically they offer this to get more signups. The unlimited attracts more people who are unclear on their hosting needs, Thus any confused signupee, usually a newbie creating his web site does not have to worry about how much bandwidth his site truly needs, most dont understand bandwidth period, and thus look for this feature when choosing a host. They dont realize.. they dont need even a gig a month!

Now a $10.00 plan, on normal quality pipe hosts, would allow around 3 gigs of transfer. Overkill for most non adult sites.

Let me also tell you that most adult sites, not posting to
TGP's etc also do not even use 3gb a month. But this is why of course you'll never see an adult host offering unlimited bandwidth. Because, obviously everyone would be posting to TGP's etc.

So knowing this, they can provide this plan.. Most unlimited providers also do not allow file serving.. such as sites like shareware archives or other programs mirrored from say
CNET's download.com or TUCOW's for example.

Now they got rid of most of the sites that will cause them problems.

Now even with this people who have a good site, that is push 30 gigs a month won't bother them to much, because they have 15 other clients who are pushing basically nothing. So typically it would be ok and not much problem hosting you.

But Of course.. you can bet your dollars that the support from a host when you are pushing this much will not be there for you.
The resources to a server are valuable, when you take away these resources, less non active clients are able to be hosting on that server this they lose profits..

So they have that stupid disclaimer, so they can say bye bye.
And as you see it's very bleak in details as to what constitutes
to much resources.

Any real provider who offers these unlimited plans, most likely can but does not restrict the amount of server ram and cpu usage to any account. This can be done with classes. However they do not do this. Why, because then they would be abused by such sites that are taking too much resources steadily.. for no profit.

So, as you can see, unlimited is basically an abused to for advertising in a very competitive market.

Just remember you get what you pay for,
Pay a little more and be happy..... Pay for nothing, and expect bad things to come.

Knowing what you need is greatest info you can have.
This is My expert advice.....

Find an affordable quality ADULT host for even your simple sites.
These providers are usually more adapt to their servers
and if they can handle 1000 sites pushing 10-20 gb a day each
Think about how well your little 1-5gb/month site would run.
Just make sure you can have your own 404 error pages so that your site doesnt redirect to their home site or something with adult content......

Most hosts will allow 404 redirects... or its a host you dont want to deal with anyway. It's just a ancient old trade secret hosts use for free traffic so they leave it undocumented.

Adam Hallett
08-16-2001, 10:56 PM
It's no different from webhost X saying 14 gigs a month per account. If each user consumed 14 gigs the webhost would go out of business. That being said, it can't be 14 gigs. I think that is a compelling argument.

I'd like to see a situation where RackShack terminated an account because 250 gigs of static pages were served each month.

Fred
08-17-2001, 02:42 PM
Well I have a 5 meg Quicktime file, I guess they wont host it.... there goes that idea. Im forgetting the UNLIMITED deal. I have a web site that will require maybe 50 megs o space for one video and the rest will be photos. I looked into this company: hostiva.com

tribby
08-17-2001, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Mike the newbie

Will Microsoft stop calling their software secure? Of course not. It is a marketing thing.

I dislike it as much as you, but the use of the word unlimited pulls in prospective cusomters.


Not true. I would argue that the word "unlimited" drives away more customers than it reels in.

Jeremy

mahinder
08-17-2001, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by B-Broker
<<MOD EDIT:>>
Thread has *nothing* to do with *****, please stop mentioning them in every thread. It is getting tiresome.
<</MOD EDIT>>

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