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ShangIsBack
08-13-2001, 08:32 PM
I am the one you all know as "Shang" and owner of MicroComet/TacidBlue/TacidHost/TacidServers/TacidServe.

I am right now making a short story and will try to post it here ASAP. And well if you all need to ask me anything... well here I am. I will try to look back at this thread back to back.

Talk to you all...

-j.shang

SoftWareRevue
08-13-2001, 09:23 PM
I'll just wait right here.

RunOfTheMill
08-13-2001, 09:29 PM
agreed SR.
this should be fun :D

creid
08-13-2001, 09:29 PM
HEY SHANG GALD TO MEET YOU!
Im waiting!:stickout

MCHost-Marc
08-13-2001, 09:35 PM
Is this a joke :D or ...:smash:

coolguy23
08-13-2001, 09:39 PM
Shang Here....
ya and i'm michael jordan;) :stickout

creid
08-13-2001, 09:39 PM
I think this is a prank. Someone starting something for the skae of the board.

ShangIsBack
08-13-2001, 10:37 PM
No prank...

I am Shang, well I am still working on the story, I got it half done.
I will put it on here tomorrow.

I have seen before some people imposing as me, as JoeShang2k, JoeShang, and some other Shang2k, Shang*.*(DOS) types. It was funny seeing people imposing me, but it was also harming me.

My story is nice and simple, but the ending is just something that has not ended yet.

I have made 32,000 in 3 months, could have made 36,000, but instabill did the right thing.

So I have any money you might ask? The answer is no. We have sent the money to instabill with a letter long enough to explain to Ahklehi, or whatever his name is, to return all the money. Profit was made? No. Have I lost money? Yes.. but I have only lost 12,000 dollars, but I tried not to spend the money that I have made from tacidblue. It was from 8,000 to 10,000, I haven't gotten to sit down and look at all of the fasthosts statement.

This is just for now, more to come.

The Prohacker
08-13-2001, 10:54 PM
<cough> ******** </cough>

B-Broker
08-13-2001, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by The Prohacker
<cough> ******** </cough>

ROTFLAMO!!!!

:laugh: :uhh: :laugh: :uhh: :laugh:

"Shang"? Here? LMAO! Story? LOL!

:eek: :eek2: :eek3: :eek2: :eek:

Palm
08-13-2001, 11:00 PM
Shang you sound like we are suppose to know about you.
Who are you?

The Prohacker
08-13-2001, 11:55 PM
Palm,
Read this entire thread:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10134

This must be a hox, honestly only a lier would say they gave back that much money, or a complete fool, or in this case a lier who is a complete fool...

Seer
08-14-2001, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by The Prohacker
...only a lier would say they gave back that much money, or a complete fool, or in this case a lier who is a complete fool...

Sounds about right. :D

Palm
08-14-2001, 12:02 AM
Well he comes here and teling stories.Does he want pity or should we feel sorry for him?

B-Broker
08-14-2001, 12:03 AM
Guys, this IS a HOAX!

In "shang's" profile, his website is shang.com

WHOIS shang.com

Registrant:
SHANG, JAN (SHANG4-DOM)
GPO Box 1109
HONG KONG, HK HK,
CN

:sigh: just some loser trying to get attention :rolleyes:

MasterMindz
08-14-2001, 12:04 AM
MODS: You should have this guy's IP, do a trace and see what comes up.

Yay!! This is my 100th post! :D

The Prohacker
08-14-2001, 12:33 AM
Yeah, if this fool would like to be Shang, lets let him/her be him/her....



Ok everyone, now you know the addy from above, contact all your lawyers and have them file suit against the above name and address...

alpha
08-14-2001, 01:18 AM
so anyone wanna summarize that looooonnnnnnnnnngggggggggg thread?

i remember when it was first started... just thought it was someone stealing someone else's pictures and making up a fake bio... so i stopped reading the thread...

Palm
08-14-2001, 01:35 AM
Some kid shang is trying to get attention.

microsol
08-14-2001, 06:33 AM
Someone should ask him a question which answer ONLY shang would know :D

auyongtc
08-14-2001, 06:47 AM
Okay.. if you're truly Shang... you should remember me...

I can admit that I'm one of your pain-in-the-you-know-where customer... I've chatted with you on numerous times over my hosting account and all. If you could tell me what is my domain name hosted with you... then I can assure all these people who you are...

Does auyongtc rings a bell?

OneNetDesign
08-14-2001, 11:45 AM
I wouldn't trust anyone named Shang anyways. Period.

determinist
08-14-2001, 04:05 PM
:eek:

I don't really believe, but if you're really shang, then prove yourself first before you post any little stories.

If shang is really here, good news or bad?

creid
08-14-2001, 04:33 PM
No Way! this is a hoax

MCHost-Marc
08-14-2001, 04:36 PM
*chants* Shang go home! Shang go home! *chants*

:D

If you're really Shang, then you should really avoid this forum after all what you've done to your clients.

B-Broker
08-14-2001, 05:03 PM
"Shang" is in Hong Kong, so........

This is getting weird... :eek2:

Nicholas Brown
08-14-2001, 05:38 PM
Wow! Who needs tv? :rolleyes:

ShangIsBack
08-14-2001, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by auyongtc
Okay.. if you're truly Shang... you should remember me...

I can admit that I'm one of your pain-in-the-you-know-where customer... I've chatted with you on numerous times over my hosting account and all. If you could tell me what is my domain name hosted with you... then I can assure all these people who you are...

Does auyongtc rings a bell?

1,600+ customers, handled over 100 customers a day. Many were in the pain-in-the-you-know-where, but there was one, yaacov, but that name you just named doesn't come to mind.

ShangIsBack
08-14-2001, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by determinist
:eek:

I don't really believe, but if you're really shang, then prove yourself first before you post any little stories.

If shang is really here, good news or bad?

Ok how shall I prove it then?

lovelie
08-14-2001, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
Ok how shall I prove it then?
why are you so eager to prove yourself Shang?

ShangIsBack
08-14-2001, 06:57 PM
You know, well I see there is no need for this.

But if you need talk to me please PM me.

Well see you all.

Bye


Now abou that IP thing, I am on Satelite Dial Return, it has and gets 4 different IPs. So the ip you must be getting is the DirecPC server.

MCHost-Marc
08-14-2001, 06:59 PM
Where is the 'story' you promised?

Seer
08-14-2001, 07:16 PM
Well, this thread really fed some kids Attention Deficit Disorder.

Dylan
08-14-2001, 07:55 PM
Everybody has been wondering... wondering... as if there is a piece of the puzzle missing...

Shang might be able to help us out... through his story...

so... let Shang tell his story first and then we can start arguing whether Shang is Shang...





I'm interested in knowing what Shang means by the end is just the beginning (or something like that).

SI-Chris
08-14-2001, 08:45 PM
troll v.,n.
1. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it.

http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/net-abuse-faq/troll-faq.html

davidb
08-14-2001, 09:08 PM
Honestly, I just care why he would want to come back. I have no direct experience, but that long post says a lot.

SoftWareRevue
08-14-2001, 10:10 PM
I just wanted to hear a good story. . . . . .

Anyone else want ta try ta be shang??

B-Broker
08-14-2001, 10:36 PM
<<EDIT: Enough already. This will be your last ***** related post.>>

lovelie
08-14-2001, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by B-Broker
Yeah, and ***** is the BEST host in the world...
i'm beginning to feel quite sorry for you somehow being able to relate ***** to everything. :erm:

B-Broker
08-14-2001, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by lovelie

i'm beginning to feel quite sorry for you somehow being able to relate ***** to everything. :erm:

LoL... ***** has a bad effect on people in horrible ways...some people even have nightmares about *****...it's a very traumatic experience :D

B-Broker
08-14-2001, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack


Ok how shall I prove it then?

By going away...

SoftWareRevue
08-14-2001, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by B-Broker
.... . . . has a bad effect on people in horrible ways.... . . . .
B-Broker
Maybe some restraint would be in order though.
I don't mean to criticise, but I recall a mod warning you to stop mentioning the thing you keep mentioning.
I think by now we all know how you feel;)
And we sympathise with you and your fellow victims.
But, it's getting quite annoying.

Chicken
08-14-2001, 11:49 PM
What he said. If it is a ***** thread and you'd like to discuss something related to the thread, that's one thing. But the pointless, "***** is a this or that..." posts are enough. Posts about ***** in non-***** threads will be deleted. If I have to waste my time and delete more than 3 more, I'd rather just ban and be done with it. Feel free to discuss issues, but can we try not to annoy the entire forum while doing so?

MasterMindz
08-15-2001, 12:06 AM
What exactly is the point of this thread?

edude
08-15-2001, 01:50 AM
I know the truth! shang is here, but his nick is

'SoftwareRevue'

:D

SoftWareRevue
08-15-2001, 01:55 AM
Now...........THAT'S comedy!!:angry:

how cum I ain't laughin' ?

edude
08-15-2001, 01:58 AM
Because your 'de' shang!

AussieHosts
08-15-2001, 04:39 AM
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?postid=136907&t=4957#post136907

Interesting, and sad.

Gary

skysenshi
08-15-2001, 12:45 PM
I'm getting waaay confused again.... Shang threads popping up again? I just replied to the other one here:

http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17892&pagenumber=2


Anyhoo... shouldn't we just keep his shadow dead by ignoring him...? I kinda blew off my steam in the other thread, but gawd! Only somebody with ADHD could actually even pull a stunt like this...

He is in serious need of help...

TrouT
08-15-2001, 06:33 PM
Well, it is him. I used to work for him as tech etc... fool never paid me my money that was due, then he stole $32 along with that. He has the nerve to come crying to me telling a story of his mother "booting" him out of the house. Oh Boy shang, you better have some strange disorder to explain the way you act.

ffs. banned from WHT Shang, jeez get a life. You dished it. You gotta take it.

thirdwatch430
08-15-2001, 10:06 PM
You need to get a life TrouT...you should not be telling other people to SPAM him...no matter what he did to you....and for all you people that did....you need to get a life. The situation with Tacid Blue was out of his hands. Get over it....if all he owes you is $35 .... get a job. I was a tech for him too, as I recall you were the one in the chat room, when I was there, that stayed invisible and didn't help out. If you don't like the guy....then why did you work for him....w/o pay? Go cry somewhere else!

party
08-15-2001, 10:30 PM
Is Shang really only 15?

Where did he advertise that he managed to get himslef 1,000+ customers in just a couple of months????


I never saw him advertise in any directories or anywhere....

Aren`t any of you curious?

TechnoHosts
08-15-2001, 10:41 PM
I am curious to know as well. I think that amount of clients in such little time is amazing

multipleimage
08-15-2001, 11:19 PM
he can say he had all those clients but let him prove it

if i said i have 5 million customers and put that on adds, ppl must think i am the best right?

thats earthlink's theory anyway :D

MCHost-Marc
08-15-2001, 11:27 PM
1000+ customers in less than 3 months isn't all that hard :D

multipleimage
08-15-2001, 11:28 PM
very true

i just doubt anything shang has to say though...

party
08-16-2001, 12:28 AM
Gosh, this is driving me mad....

Come on you guys....seriously, how in the world does someone get that many customers in such a short time.

Kiwi, did you get ALL of your clients just from this forum????

Either that or you must have advertised like crazy all over the place in the beginning to get you started?

I`m seriously about to cry

:confused: :(

MCHost-Marc
08-16-2001, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by party
Kiwi, did you get ALL of your clients just from this forum????

No. We only have about 3-5% customers from WHT. :)

party
08-16-2001, 12:52 AM
Thanks for answering Kiwi. I feel better now :)

Do you think it`s pathetic if someone just started advertising and in their first month they only got about 22 sign ups? And pretend this person only advertised in one directory listing.....
That number is pathetic, is it not? :(

I wonder how many signups Hostsave gets in a week...

skysenshi
08-16-2001, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by TechnoHosts
I am curious to know as well. I think that amount of clients in such little time is amazing

Well... there were about 90+ reviews (most of it were singing fake praises) at Hostsearch.

And some of his other clients were actually existing clients buying multiple accounts. I had 3 accounts with him before (my clients opted for his hosting, while I developed their sites, because he offered hosting for a cheap price).

And... the power of the word of mouth...


btw, Shang was a sweet child at the beginning too. So we all got reeled in.

thirdwatch430
08-16-2001, 09:23 AM
Shang had about 800-1,000 customers when he closed down. No lie.It might sound amazing to you.....but I had access to the FastHosts CP....and he had that many.

party
08-16-2001, 11:14 AM
Thirdwatch,

Where do you think that he advertised? Gosh! I`m really intrigued by this...

Do you think that he just advertised in regular hosting directories and that the only reason he got so many signups is because he only charged 20 bucks per year?

Is that it?

This is starting to drive me boonkers...:(

SoftWareRevue
08-16-2001, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Kiwi
We only have about 3-5% customers from WHT. :) And the other 95-97% ??

MasterMindz
08-16-2001, 11:36 AM
Wow, what a thread... "ShangIsBack" must laughing hysterically because his trolling worked. :rolleyes:

lovelie
08-16-2001, 12:03 PM
i don't care if he's laughing or not.. it's keeping me entertained too :)

ShangIsBack
08-16-2001, 11:09 PM
Skyshensky, yes I am just a kid here. I always wanted to have a buisness like my father does with Compaq, but well I guess it did not go to well. My parents/friends told me I couldn't do it. So I went ahead and did it.

Yes I designed my own layout, background, and logo, well not the last logo, I think it was made my "Killa" or thirdwatch maybe, I can't remember. The rest the guys pics came from a security website, and well I thought it will look great. The rest was to Alex, my web designer.

I did all forms of advertising... well not that many first, but I got to register over 800,000 search engines, and other stuff, but never did real advertising. Was going to put a small banner in HostSearch, and I was like so close, but when I saw the thread in here, just made me stop.

I remember Skyshensky being my 15th customer, and she complaining about my DHTML and Framed layout I had first. I had to fix it all up thanks to her :) I loved talking to people, helping people on my boards with their problems, and well they loved me back. E-mails, phone, board, AIM, HumanClick, Digichat, they all loved me everywhere (I dunno about e-mail, I had once to delete 3,000+- messages because I couldn't respond to them all). I liked coming to my computer and seeing 10-30 new orders a day, and 100-200 new e-mails a day, and someone always waiting in HumanClick. Well I loved my customers, that was one, but FastHosts was my only problem facing me, and in June 6th, it got me.... and I never thought they would do this to me.
You probably hate me already, Iam trying to stay away from here from posting...hope this is my last post.

SoftWareRevue
08-16-2001, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
...hope this is my last post. Well, I don't:rolleyes:
I would like to hear the story from the person that wrote it.
I'm kind of tired of hearing all the gossip. Some facts would be nice.

edude
08-16-2001, 11:19 PM
ShangIsBack,

please ignore softwareRevue, he is just trying to 'up' his posts and start arguements, you see he is a critic :D

ShangIsBack
08-16-2001, 11:26 PM
I never liked to do this.. but we will start sometime....

My friend Robert, Wes, and I wanted to start a company that would make popularity. Robert and I started with MicroComet.net and started doing some webdesigns, we really liked ticalc.org design because we were into programming calculators.
We decided to start a TI site and maybe beat ticalc.org competition like ticalc did to ti-files.org. We had to learn Perl, HTML, and little graphics design. I never went to school but got me a Burlee account and started playing with Notepad.
Then I gave up on doing that much work for the site, and was wondering how other people do it with their webapages and stuff, so we look at microsoft.com/2advanced.com/neostream.com and such sites to learn my Flash. And I got real good at it that I made and came up with the name TacidBlue( well actually Robert Came up with the name, that is about all he gets credit for) and started TAcidBlue.com and experimented with Flash. Wes and I studied day and night and tried to implement lots of stuff to FLash. Then we saw musicsheets.com or something like that or virtualmusicsheets.com and saw how they are making money from music sheets, and we started TacidBlue making music sheets and giving them out for free just to gain popularity.

This is how far I am going now. (to be continued....)

Note: What I mean that I never went to school is that I never went to a Web class or anything like that. But in School I am #3 in my class :)

B-Broker
08-16-2001, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
I always wanted to have a buisness like my father does with Compaq, but well I guess it did not go to well.

(cough) ********... :rolleyes:

ah, the infamous VP of Compaq and 300 free servers deal...

So your dad runs Compaq? "I always wanted to have a business like my father does with Compaq"....

This makes no sense...

ShangIsBack
08-16-2001, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by B-Broker


(cough) ********... :rolleyes:

ah, the infamous VP of Compaq and 300 free servers deal...

So your dad runs Compaq? "I always wanted to have a business like my father does with Compaq"....

This makes no sense...
That falls into my private life....he does not own compaq, and in fact he IS LIKE a father, not my father, I never had a father, but he takes care of me like a father through all my life.

And I only had access to 5 servers, even I never used them.
You sound alot like "Editor" to me anyways.

In case you need to know, he is Executive Vice President.

SoftWareRevue
08-16-2001, 11:38 PM
Just let him tell his story:rolleyes:

B-Broker
08-16-2001, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Just let him tell his story:rolleyes:

Agreed. I'll check back in soon.

B-Broker
08-16-2001, 11:44 PM
:erm: The Executive Vice President (Sales/Services) at Compaq is Peter Blackmore. The Executive Vice President of Global Sales Units is Michael Winkler.

:eek3:

sav
08-16-2001, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by microsol
Someone should ask him a question which answer ONLY shang would know :D

Hi 'Shang'!
Can you say us which kind of payment I send you for hosting from Russia?
My domain name - partizansk.com
Do you remember details of our deal?
Let us to know please :D

SoftWareRevue
08-17-2001, 12:01 AM
Why not just let him tell his whole story; and then draw an informed conclusion??

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 12:03 AM
10 hmmm what you call it over there? 10 pieces something like that you said.

I love the card, man I wish I could have done something.. but hope you understand with me and FastHost.
I still have the card you sent me and the letter.

Thank you.

B-Broker
08-17-2001, 12:11 AM
(cough) troll....

:mad:

MasterMindz
08-17-2001, 12:16 AM
No offense, but you people are being complete and utter morons. You've all fallen for this big time troll! It's really sad... :rolleyes:

"ShangIsBack": F*** off and get a life.

(Sorry for the implied language and insults.)

sav
08-17-2001, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
10 hmmm what you call it over there? 10 pieces something like that you said.

I love the card, man I wish I could have done something.. but hope you understand with me and FastHost.
I still have the card you sent me and the letter.

Thank you.

Is it your answer for me?
If so - I don't remember any 'card' :confused:
Can you forward my letter to me?

An let us to know all your 'story'...

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by sav


Is it your answer for me?
If so - I don't remember any 'card' :confused:
Can you forward my letter to me?

An let us to know all your 'story'...

Might be another person. I do not know, there was 2 letters I got from Russia, once had a written letter with 2 pieces of Russian money, the other one had a Card with some nice painintg in fron with 5 pieces or so. I can't actually remember, but I always thought it was the same guy. If you did not send a card to me, you are the first one then, the envelope was thick paper, but I can't actually remember... I handled hundreds of customers a day. There was another guy who was from Russia too that sent in US dollars, but he sent $40 to host an e(something).com domain and another one... but one domain we couldn't get working because it was an .nz or .nu domain(can't remember) and it did not with FastHosts DNS.

sav
08-17-2001, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
[Bt...here was 2 letters I got from Russia, once had a written letter with 2 pieces of Russian money, the other one had a Card with some nice painintg in fron with 5 pieces or so. I can't actually remember, but I always thought it was the same guy. If you did not send a card to me, you are the first one then, the envelope was thick paper, but I can't actually remember...[/B]

Wow! You looks like a real Shang... :eek:

How about your clients that lost their hosting with you?
What can you say about some compensation?

SoftWareRevue
08-17-2001, 01:13 AM
We're not going to hear his story if everyone starts harrassing him about money:rolleyes:

party
08-17-2001, 10:33 AM
How would i be able to sumit to 800,000 search engines like he did?

I bet that`s how he got most of his customers...:(

But how did he manage to get good positions in all thoses engines?


:confused:

zentek
08-17-2001, 10:36 AM
I have no idea bout Tacidblue and all this.

However, Zentek is in Hong Kong and we've been here since 1998, and we are actively involved in the Webhosting/Dedicated Server scene and attend some of the "webhosting company meets" and related activities.

How come we haven't heard about this Hong Kong-based Shang person before?

Presumably he would have been in ONE of the mags... or at least he would have been mentioned at one of the meetings?!? :confused:

Personally I don't remember him at ALL ever being mentioned in the scene here in Hong Kong before.

Oh... and if he IS in Hong Kong, he should know cantonese. I can speak that so lets see if he is the real deal or some moron in the USA playing a prank on you all! :cool:

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 02:03 PM
Sana hana seyo to you too..

But hell, when did I say I was from Hong Kong? Hmmm.... is it because http://shang.com ? well Shang.com is a site I WISH I had, and love the single character they made of the name "Shang." I know 3 languages; mostly Spanish, then English. fluent in both langauges, but I have been studing Korean for 4 years now, just speaking it for now.

Now welll 800,000 search engine submission is my specialty, remember in my site I had 500,000+ submission to search engines? Now I am capable to submit to 1.6 million of them, (thidwatch please keep quite about this) and I was thinking in the back of my head starting a submission thing here, but ohh well.

Now I have been to Seul, South Korea and yes I am here in the USA - Texas.

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 02:14 PM
..... continuation to my story.....

I then started the layout we currently had and maybe you all know the TacidBlue layout, I made it with the background that I got the ball idea from ZDTV now known as TechTV. The logo was made simple from coolarchive.com with the Jungle font - then hand made by Fireworks :)
We started the calssical music site, we had well I made about 50 music sheets and just made about 200-300 bucks from it. The I started freaking out when I saw the bill on Burlee towards me, and started searching for a cheaper host, because I did not want to pay $45 extra just for my domain to be viewed without the "www" before the domain (look at burlee.com and look at the extras). Then I found hostyard.com and I was amazed a price so low for hosting. Got his hosting and continued with my sheet music selling adn expermienting with my layout with frames, and CSS and this experiments to it. Turned out that CSS, and some of my PNG files and Frames weren't good in NS and some IE so I went to my old layout. Then I stood out of the way from it and started playing Age of Empires I and II and started my own small clan for it in my site and came very popular people coming and learning new strategies and all, and with Hostyard I had PHP and mySQL, so something new to learn. Then a sudden idea came to me on reselling Hostyards hosting because their DNS was annonymous "ns.hostay.com" and nobody will never know. But first I had to ask Dylan in the boards if I can do this, and he said yes and masking hostyard hasn't been done before.

I am tired.

(to be continued.....)

Ericd
08-17-2001, 02:23 PM
He seems to be the real Shang. Because i remember him asking that to Dylan and everything he said in his story.

party
08-17-2001, 04:10 PM
Darn wait a sec....

But how can submitting to 800,000 search engines do you any good anyway?

Don`t 99% of people only search on the major ones (aol, yahoo, alta vista, e.t.c)? I bet most people have never even heard of all those other engines......or am i missing something?

Plus, how on earth would you be able to even get a decent position on all those searches?...........

mahinder
08-17-2001, 04:16 PM
shang welcome. i love to hear your story. please carry on and ignore all those bull **** posts. ;)

WebSnail.net
08-17-2001, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by mahinder
shang welcome. i love to hear your story. please carry on and ignore all those bull **** posts. ;) Excuse me? From what I've heard this guy ripped off a phenominal number of people and you are welcoming him with open arms...

As for the whole 800,000 search engines (let along 1.6million)... Have you actually stopped to work out how many domains there are in existence. Are there really about 1 search engines for every 20 or 30 sites? Have you listened to various people out there trying to learn how to create a single standard approach to putting information out to even a tenth of that number? How many have succeeded?

The web is so diverse that I doubt you could see the benefit of even 2,000 search engines or directories. I can't help but wonder about the common sense lack here :eek:

mahinder
08-17-2001, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by WebSnail.net
Excuse me? From what I've heard this guy ripped off a phenominal number of people and you are welcoming him with open arms...

As for the whole 800,000 search engines (let along 1.6million)... Have you actually stopped to work out how many domains there are in existence. Are there really about 1 search engines for every 20 or 30 sites? Have you listened to various people out there trying to learn how to create a single standard approach to putting information out to even a tenth of that number? How many have succeeded?

The web is so diverse that I doubt you could see the benefit of even 2,000 search engines or directories. I can't help but wonder about the common sense lack here :eek:

well excuse me. i know very well who is shang and what he did or bla bla bla. . .

i also know there aren't 800,000 search engines on the net. this is one of the reason i encourage him to tell his story. let him say what he want to say. may be he ripped off some people but now he is here to clearify what happen. so lets listen to him.
:(

party
08-17-2001, 06:16 PM
Yes, this is why i`m dying to get answers....especially about these "800,000" search engines.

I`m just real curious where exactly and how he advertised to get that many customers in such a short time.

I don`t know........:confused:

I guess it`s because of the low 20 buck per year pricing he had.

lovelie
08-17-2001, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by party
I guess it`s because of the low 20 buck per year pricing he had.
i thought that much was obvious..

party
08-17-2001, 06:30 PM
Lovelie, yeah i know....nevermind.

But it`s still very impressive that he managed to get that many customers regardess of the price. Especially, since he did it in a very short amount of time.

mahinder
08-17-2001, 06:40 PM
Originally posted by B-Broker
<<EDIT: Enough already. This will be your last ***** related post.>>

***** :smash: < B-Broker :smash: < MODS == :D

nozol
08-17-2001, 07:58 PM
I think many people include ffa pages when talking about search engine submission. Maybe those 800,000 search engines include ffa pages also.

Regards,

Ahmed

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 08:19 PM
ewww..
ok
I use a program that I bought for 400 bucks for the unlimited submission license, so I can offer this to my customers, but I never got to do one because it was too much time consuming and on filling all the input fields and catergories.

This small program submits to major search engines and FFA sites too, and some other forgein sites. I never got to take the time to browse them all. When I submitted TacidBlue there was a record of 1.2 million and out of that only about 800,000 went sucessfully. Last time a check 3 week ago, it was about 1.6 million.

edude
08-17-2001, 08:24 PM
***** :smash: < B-Broker :smash: < mahinder :smash: < MODS == :D :)

Originally posted by mahinder


***** :smash: < B-Broker :smash: < MODS == :D

SoftWareRevue
08-17-2001, 08:31 PM
<<<EDIT>>> never mind

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 08:46 PM
Chapter 3 I guess.

Dylan agreed to let me resell from him in his boards, so I started right away. I started by looking at other hosting companies on what they offered and such, like I started an FAQ like Burlee.com, started a board like Hostyard, started live customer support like apollohosting. Then I figured a price of $75/year of hosting for it, and the very next day I got 3 customers, and I was amazed at the rapid growth, and after a week I ended with 40-50 customers. Then I had to figure something out to make my payment processing easier because I used Paypal and Verza and it was very confusing that way. Then I foudn hosthem.com that offered services like hostyard but I liked they payment processing, instabill and started to use them from then on. Then I get compaints about other people having a very hard time viewing my site. I noticed with humanclick that many people had NS, and IE+, so not many people could support the 4 frames I had and the Flash, because it slows some people PC, and I do not want that. I wanted everyone to come and visit, so I went back to the old Tacidlayout and worked from then on until when Cyberseven comes in....

Then one time Dylan e-mailed me to stop using the 20% discount link and told me to delete the cookie. So I did and then he kept on e-mailing me about some corrections to my site, and he helped me a bit. And warned me about my transfer level, it was way over 8Gigs already in the first 2 weeks and I only used 2MB of space. I ignored it for a while, but I needed to make sometime no my site more enterntaining, like making my site show random items in the front page so they won't see the same damm thing all the time, and some other neat stuff. My main problem was the boards, because the way I moved from host to host.

(to be continued....)

Ericd
08-17-2001, 08:51 PM
Then I figured a price of $75/year of hosting for it, and the very next day I got 3 customers, and I was amazed at the rapid growth, and after a week I ended with 40-50 customers.

Where did you advertised to get such?

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 09:00 PM
I only advertised in Hostsearch.com and I used the program to promote TacidBlue to 800,000 sites. Thant is just about all I did.

Also there was a warez site called Pseudo warez that advertised me, because I gave him an Hostyard account. When pseudo went down their visitors came automaticly to me. A meta refresh tag did it.

slade
08-17-2001, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
I do not know, there was 2 letters I got from Russia, once had a written letter with 2 pieces of Russian money, the other one had a Card with some nice painintg in fron with 5 pieces or so. I can't actually remember, but I always thought it was the same guy.

Ugh... anyone else smell something?

I have read this before, but I don't know where. Perhaps I have had the misfortune of hearing of him before now, but I know I have read that story before.

I have a knack for remembering things I've read. Usually I can point out which side of the page in a book I read something from. The net makes it much more difficult, but I will look hard...

ShangIsBack
08-17-2001, 10:32 PM
Someone else has my story?
Whoa!

I also tend to do that, when I do something I stop for a minute and swear to god I dreamt this exact same thing after the moment has ocurred. Something I believe this recollection I get it from what has happened 5 seconds ago then think I did that.

But I am curious to know who has this story, and in a book?

SoftWareRevue
08-17-2001, 10:41 PM
ShangIsBack, Please try and ignore any comments arrising out of suspicion you are a troll:rolleyes:
There are many that will criticize all you say. But, there are many more that wish to hear your story.

party
08-17-2001, 10:54 PM
yes please...continue with your story.......

When/how did things turn ugly?

This is better than television.

edude
08-17-2001, 10:57 PM
Ok,

Many people want to read your story so they can reply with 2 sentence posts just to increase the post totals. A very good specimen of this method is 'SoftwareRevue' go back and count how many times he has said 'please continue with the story'.

Now this shang fellow, i reccomend stop posting, its over. Forget about it, whats done is done. Close the topic and put tacid to rest, take a holiday to tacid lake for some memories.

Regards,
HostEXP

SoftWareRevue
08-17-2001, 11:11 PM
Originally posted by Hostexp
Ok,

Many people want to read your story so they can reply with 2 sentence posts just to increase the post totals. A very good specimen of this method is 'SoftwareRevue' go back and count how many times he has said 'please continue with the story'.

Now this shang fellow, i reccomend stop posting, its over. Forget about it, whats done is done. Close the topic and put tacid to rest, take a holiday to tacid lake for some memories.

Regards,
HostEXP How 'bout this one, :eek: ??
My, but what a long reply for you.
Your finger must be very tired:rolleyes:

edude
08-17-2001, 11:25 PM
I consider it a long post when i hardly have any time to post :D but the world must know about your mission to reach 1000 posts.

P.S: i'm winning :D

Dylan
08-17-2001, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by Hostexp
Ok,

Many people want to read your story so they can reply with 2 sentence posts just to increase the post totals. A very good specimen of this method is 'SoftwareRevue' go back and count how many times he has said 'please continue with the story'.

Now this shang fellow, i reccomend stop posting, its over. Forget about it, whats done is done. Close the topic and put tacid to rest, take a holiday to tacid lake for some memories.

Regards,
HostEXP


Originally posted by Hostexp
I consider it a long post when i hardly have any time to post but the world must know about your mission to reach 1000 posts.

P.S: i'm winning



:angry: :mad: :kaioken:

edude
08-17-2001, 11:40 PM
:stickout :stickout :stickout :stickout

ShangIsBack
08-18-2001, 12:32 AM
You seem to be the only one who doesn't like me here. If you do not need to wish to read it, well don't, I am not going out and calling everyone to read it. I just do it for fun, and heck this is a free country still, isn't it?

Dylan! Well hi there :) I skipped a couple of parts you might know Dylan.

When I was with Hostyard, in their board is where I posted some of the questions I did not know that some of my customers asked me, so Dylan was there to help ;) . One time someone guessed my dumb password in my AIM/ICQ/and of coarse Dylans board. My username is always Shang2k password was "Shang99" (in case you are wondering I am not using this no more). I went by "JoeShang" in Dylans boards and someone, I still haven't figured out who, but took over my "TacidBlueCom" AIM SN, and posted some stuff about Hostyard and Tacid, I can't remember what happened, but all of the sudden I had people from Hostyard flaming me in my boards, and I was forced to shut it down. I was scared this came from Hostyard and so I had to find an alternate solution because Hostyard can right away close TacidBlue.com and leave me in the dust. Then I found "Busysites.net" and they had a reseller plan for $5 for an extra account.

Whoops, forgot a part.

Almost forgot JaguarPC! I moved from Hostyard to JaguarPC.

Arghhh wait...

Nononoo, I bought another domain first! TacidHosting.com !
Ok, I am back on track.

Tacidhosting.com I opened it with Donhost reseller plan. I payed it yearly and moved my site to there, and made tacidblue.com redirect to tacidhosting.com.


Arghhh wait....

Skipped another part, Lets go back with busysites.net, their reseller plan was for $5 an extra account, so sounded like a good deal. I got teh domain tacidhost.com from them, and little that I know back then they were fasthosts resellers until later on. So then I used tacidhost.com for a while and hosted it on NT servers. (fasthosts).
Then I already had like 100 people with busysites and about 50-70 with Hostyard and prices were at $60/year. I had trouble now handling all customers now, and was a little hard talking to all of them. Then I thought why not do what other host do? Charge monthly?
I then went with JaguarPC reselling adn started chargin monthly, and did about 20-40 accounts in that week with them, but actually I still put some in busysites and some in hostyard and I did put 3-5 in JaguarPC. Then switched back to my old stuff because people were getting confused about the plans.
Then I bought me vbulletin, Humanclick with up to 6 people (still wasn't enough) and tacidhost.net for my board hosted with JaguarPC. Then I had like about 500-600 customers so far without going with fasthosts yet. I was the most rated and reviewed host in hostsearch.com and they even sent me an e-mail telling me that their limit is 100 reviews, and asked me if it was ok for them to stop the reviews or let them delete the old ones.

Ok after this it gets confusing.... the good stuff comes in and is were stuff starts falling apart. I need ot think what went first. I am tryign to fit it all in pieces.

I might not be here tomorrow because I will be going to Norman, OK.

Talk to you all later.
(to be continued...)

edude
08-18-2001, 02:17 AM
Who are you refering to by that? also what is a 'free country' don't forget this is the 'internet' last time i checked it wasn't only the U.S?:D

Your just wasting WHT bandwidth with your kiddy stories. Wake up, everyone is laughing at you here.

Originally posted by ShangIsBack
You seem to be the only one who doesn't like me here. If you do not need to wish to read it, well don't, I am not going out and calling everyone to read it. I just do it for fun, and heck this is a free country still, isn't it?

Dylan! Well hi there :) I skipped a couple of parts you might know Dylan.

When I was with Hostyard, in their board is where I posted some of the questions I did not know that some of my customers asked me, so Dylan was there to help ;) . One time someone guessed my dumb password in my AIM/ICQ/and of coarse Dylans board. My username is always Shang2k password was "Shang99" (in case you are wondering I am not using this no more). I went by "JoeShang" in Dylans boards and someone, I still haven't figured out who, but took over my "TacidBlueCom" AIM SN, and posted some stuff about Hostyard and Tacid, I can't remember what happened, but all of the sudden I had people from Hostyard flaming me in my boards, and I was forced to shut it down. I was scared this came from Hostyard and so I had to find an alternate solution because Hostyard can right away close TacidBlue.com and leave me in the dust. Then I found "Busysites.net" and they had a reseller plan for $5 for an extra account.

Whoops, forgot a part.

Almost forgot JaguarPC! I moved from Hostyard to JaguarPC.

Arghhh wait...

Nononoo, I bought another domain first! TacidHosting.com !
Ok, I am back on track.

Tacidhosting.com I opened it with Donhost reseller plan. I payed it yearly and moved my site to there, and made tacidblue.com redirect to tacidhosting.com.


Arghhh wait....

Skipped another part, Lets go back with busysites.net, their reseller plan was for $5 an extra account, so sounded like a good deal. I got teh domain tacidhost.com from them, and little that I know back then they were fasthosts resellers until later on. So then I used tacidhost.com for a while and hosted it on NT servers. (fasthosts).
Then I already had like 100 people with busysites and about 50-70 with Hostyard and prices were at $60/year. I had trouble now handling all customers now, and was a little hard talking to all of them. Then I thought why not do what other host do? Charge monthly?
I then went with JaguarPC reselling adn started chargin monthly, and did about 20-40 accounts in that week with them, but actually I still put some in busysites and some in hostyard and I did put 3-5 in JaguarPC. Then switched back to my old stuff because people were getting confused about the plans.
Then I bought me vbulletin, Humanclick with up to 6 people (still wasn't enough) and tacidhost.net for my board hosted with JaguarPC. Then I had like about 500-600 customers so far without going with fasthosts yet. I was the most rated and reviewed host in hostsearch.com and they even sent me an e-mail telling me that their limit is 100 reviews, and asked me if it was ok for them to stop the reviews or let them delete the old ones.

Ok after this it gets confusing.... the good stuff comes in and is were stuff starts falling apart. I need ot think what went first. I am tryign to fit it all in pieces.

I might not be here tomorrow because I will be going to Norman, OK.

Talk to you all later.
(to be continued...) [/B]

SoftWareRevue
08-18-2001, 02:29 AM
Don't mind Hostexp. He's just trying to start an argument.
He's afraid of falling behind in his post count. :D

edude
08-18-2001, 03:18 AM
No i'm not, the poor kid needs help. Most people on this forum seem to be mocking him :(

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Don't mind Hostexp. He's just trying to start an argument.
He's afraid of falling behind in his post count. :D

mahinder
08-18-2001, 06:35 AM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
that I bought for 400 bucks for the unlimited submission license


hey can you tell me the name of the software ? pleaseseeee. :)

lovelie
08-18-2001, 03:48 PM
it looks like the only reason people are interested is to get as many customers as tacid. :D

& btw everyone involved.. yr repeated comments about post counts are boring & pathetic. :rolleyes: i want tor ead the story,, not yr petty post rivalries. start yr own thread.

Dylan
08-18-2001, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Hostexp
No i'm not, the poor kid needs help. Most people on this forum seem to be mocking him :(



Talking helps alot!!!

edude
08-18-2001, 07:39 PM
Not really, how is talking going to help? its already been done. Talking will just allow the people of this forum to mock at him.

creepcolony
08-18-2001, 08:22 PM
where has shang been and why is he back

Dylan
08-18-2001, 08:22 PM
Hostexp, what are you doing tonight? workaholics, oops, internetaholics won't understand.

311
08-19-2001, 06:10 PM
shang come back...

edude
08-19-2001, 10:48 PM
Dylan :confused: :confused:

I definetly do not see any use to this thread. Who cares about shang's story its over...

You must be trying to give some of the readers the wrong idea's...


Originally posted by Dylan
Hostexp, what are you doing tonight? workaholics, oops, internetaholics won't understand.

MCHost-Marc
08-20-2001, 12:04 AM
I don't really see the point of this thread :cartman:

edude
08-20-2001, 12:35 AM
At last someone agrees with me!

Thanks marc :D

webarama
08-20-2001, 08:41 PM
Shang is a wanker

SoftWareRevue
08-20-2001, 09:59 PM
Originally posted by Kiwi
I don't really see the point of this thread :cartman: Whatever it was; seems to be over now:bawling:

ShangIsBack
08-21-2001, 06:11 PM
Well goodbye.

I promise I won't post here again, and well see ya ;)

webarama
08-21-2001, 06:15 PM
Adios ShangIsBack.

sbrad
08-21-2001, 06:31 PM
Adios ShangIsBack.
hehe. ShangisGone

multipleimage
08-21-2001, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by ShangIsBack
Well goodbye.

I promise I won't post here again, and well see ya ;)

Under this nick or any nick? :cartman:

TradeViceroy
08-21-2001, 08:28 PM
Man...the saga is over now. :(

Gaaahhh....now I have to go back to walking television. ;)

AussieHosts
08-21-2001, 08:43 PM
You walk your television....? :eek:

Gary

TradeViceroy
08-21-2001, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by Editor
You walk your television....? :eek:

Gary


Yeah...don't you? I feed it electricity twice a day and walk it once per day.


:stickout

Londo
08-22-2001, 07:52 PM
Let me bottom line this, anybody who is sane will realise that that the following things are said about Shang:

devious, F**k head, prick, F***ing wanker, gitt, S**T, thief or the lowest scumbag to walk the planet. Well that is just a few, for those who have had direct contact with him, they would like to have direct contact with his face.

Before he left us and met his demise he said that there was a window of something like 12 hours to get you're money back, what a prick. Whether this persons claims are true or not doesn't matter. The fact is, his name, most people know for the wrong reasons and people shouldn't have pitty for him, they should tell him to F**k of and be done with it.

That is my bit you cant argue about this Shang cos you are what you are and you are in my opinion a F**uckin faggert as well as a spastic. Come on you're dad is vice pres of Compaq, that is like me saying my Dad owns Vodaphone. I think you spent meal time when you're dad was telling you what he does at work with you're head up your best mates ass. You probably were still like that when you tried to run a web host. Reselling doesn't pay punk. I dont have time to explain the reason you are alive to everyone is that you are here to piss your customers off.

GO AWAY

P.S. I was a customer, GO F**K YOURSELF

HostRat
08-22-2001, 08:27 PM
Shang became a legend for ripping a massive amount of people off.

To be honest there is no real point posting about him.

I will say one thing however, he is out their somewhere running another company, no one will ever know where or what site it is.

Close the post chicken or another mod.

Critic
08-23-2001, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by Londo
Let me bottom line this, anybody who is sane will realise that that the following things are said about Shang:

devious, F**k head, prick, F***ing wanker, gitt, S**T, thief or the lowest scumbag to walk the planet. Well that is just a few, for those who have had direct contact with him, they would like to have direct contact with his face.

Before he left us and met his demise he said that there was a window of something like 12 hours to get you're money back, what a prick. Whether this persons claims are true or not doesn't matter. The fact is, his name, most people know for the wrong reasons and people shouldn't have pitty for him, they should tell him to F**k of and be done with it.

That is my bit you cant argue about this Shang cos you are what you are and you are in my opinion a F**uckin faggert as well as a spastic. Come on you're dad is vice pres of Compaq, that is like me saying my Dad owns Vodaphone. I think you spent meal time when you're dad was telling you what he does at work with you're head up your best mates ass. You probably were still like that when you tried to run a web host. Reselling doesn't pay punk. I dont have time to explain the reason you are alive to everyone is that you are here to piss your customers off.

GO AWAY

P.S. I was a customer, GO F**K YOURSELF




That is a bit strong but i wasn't a customer of Tacid. Any other former customers here who feel like Mr Londo?