They have been down for over 3 hours now? I hope they are not out of buisness... Anyone heard anything? This is not looking good.

Instabill are horrible, i used to use them. I use revecom now, changing to my bank merchant now. ;(

Innerhost.com is saying they were told to take the instabill.com servers offline... Not looking good guys..

Yes, also another thing, notice they stopped taking new signups? i think they are gone.

Not just that... Revecom was down as well.

I'm on the phone with their host, i will post again status, i am hold right now because they do not know what server it is... figures. I will try to get them to pull it back up.. Will be posting back.

Hi,

Revecom wasn't down for me, must be just you :D

Instabill.com owner, ordered it to be shut down because there is illegal activity on it as he quoted. Instabill.com owner will be talking to the dedicated manager tommorow, and it will not be brought back up untill this is delt with.. Thats what i got out of him, so it looks like it may be back up tommorow, if not i will be calling threating a law suit. I would request anyone to please flood the call center at innerhost. That might help. This is all i got right now.

Their number is: (800) 621-8309

Originally posted by Synergy
Not just that... Revecom was down as well.

Yep. Murphy's Law. :rolleyes:

Gary

Originally posted by Hostexp
Hi,

Revecom wasn't down for me, must be just you :D

Darn. We're in Brisbane, and we haven't been able to get at it all day ourselves...

Gary

Thats not the main issue who can get to revecom.. obviously they are bring down that server to it just hasn't got to everyone yet. Please call innerhost and complain about the instabill.com server. Their number is (800) 621-8309 .

Originally posted by SECUREDNETWORKS
Thats not the main issue who can get to revecom.. obviously they are bring down that server to it just hasn't got to everyone yet. Please call innerhost and complain about the instabill.com server. Their number is (800) 621-8309 .

The server won't be back up earlier if you do that. The Instabill owner(s) ordered the server to be shut down until the problem is corrected. If you flood them with calls, it will just take them longer to fix it. And ...the host cannot put the server back online without the owners' permission.

Originally posted by SECUREDNETWORKS
Thats not the main issue who can get to revecom..

To some it would be.

Gary

Works fine for me, i was just setting up a new account :D

Originally posted by Hostexp
Works fine for me, i was just setting up a new account :D :eek:

3 130.152.128.2 3.802 ms usc-isi-atm.ln.net [AS226] USC/Information Sciences Institute, regional network, Los Nettos
4 209.232.128.189 3.496 ms uscisi-pbi-630375.cust-rtr.pbi.net (DNS error) [AS5673] Unknown
5 216.102.183.194 3.712 ms edge1-g6-0.lsan03.pbi.net [AS5673] Unknown
6 144.232.192.61 3.967 ms sl-gw15-ana-6-0.sprintlink.net [AS1790/AS1239] SprintLink Washington D.C. / SprintLink Backbone
7 144.232.1.217 4.659 ms sl-bb22-ana-3-3.sprintlink.net [AS1790/AS1239] SprintLink Washington D.C. / SprintLink Backbone
8 144.232.9.250 55.672 ms sl-bb22-fw-10-1.sprintlink.net [AS1790/AS1239] SprintLink Washington D.C. / SprintLink Backbone
9 144.232.18.186 37.584 ms sl-bb22-kc-14-0.sprintlink.net [AS1790/AS1239] SprintLink Washington D.C. / SprintLink Backbone
10 144.232.23.243 38.429 ms DNS error [AS1790/AS1239] SprintLink Washington D.C. / SprintLink Backbone
11 160.81.107.10 248.409 ms sl-cybercon-inc-1-0.sprintlink.net [AS1790] SprintLink Washington D.C.
12 216.15.195.38 53.628 ms gig12.sw1.cybercon.com [AS13406] Unknown
13 216.15.191.8 54.915 ms DNS error [AS13406] Unknown


I know that hardly proves the point, but it is up.

Well I couldn't get there:rolleyes:

Sure you're not instabill Hostexp??

:D

I'm talking about revecom :D

Originally posted by Hostexp
I'm talking about revecom

That's right. . . . .I remember now. . . . .

This thread started about instabill, then shifted towards revecom (of whom I have an account and was just there working on it) :D

Can we get back to the instabill thing now??

From web site login:

13/08/2001 ( URGENT INSTABILL NOTIFICATION )
Due to unavoidable circumstances Instabill.com/zStar Network,Inc. will no longer be able to provide its billing services.

Please make alternative credit card processing arrangements as Instabill.com/zStar Network,Inc. will cease its services from August 20, 2001.

We regret the inconvenience caused but ensure that all dues will be paid according to the payment and hold back schedules.

Our support service will be available to make sure that all your questions are answered as soon as possible.

Please note again that your payments will be made on time as per previous schedule.

We wish you all good luck with your businesses.

I just got this same message in an email.

I praise the Lord I got into their control panel and copied a list
of all my customers and when they are due. I also praise the Lord that my merchant account went live Friday.

Here is the email I just got

----- Original Message -----
From: Insatbill Support
To: Instabill Merchants
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: Urgent Instabill Notification


Dear Merchants,

Due to unavoidable circumstances Instabill.com/zStar Network Inc. will no longer be able to provide its billing services.

Please make alternative credit card processing arrangements as Instabill.com/zStar Network Inc. will cease its services from August 20, 2001.

We regret the inconvenience caused but ensure that all dues will be paid according to the payment and hold back schedules.

Our support service will be available to make sure that all your questions are answered as soon as possible.

Please note again that your payments will be made on time as per previous schedule.

We wish you all good luck with your businesses.

Regards
Instabill.com/zStar Network Inc.


Lets see if they keep their word and send the payments owed to their clients.

Any Suggestions for a quick alternative to instabill?

Originally posted by Crazy
Any Suggestions for a quick alternative to instabill?

I would suggest ibill.com, they are very stable.

5% more in fees per month though.

Originally posted by Crazy
Any Suggestions for a quick alternative to instabill?

revecom ;)

Definetly, i can boast for revecom. They always answer my emails, never had a problem with there service.

I just did what ljprevo did, but I was waiting for this to happen but I thought it would happen in some months. They had these warnings some times before and you know what`s going on then, right. Fortunately (??), I haven`t got many customers so I can offord to wait for a REAL billing solution.

They tried to charge one of my customers three times, and managed to charge one two times, and I haven`t got many customers. So maybe that has something to do with the "illegal activity".

Revecom would not have worked out for me. I charge monthly and my lowest cost is $4.95 with Revecom that would have been $1.20 in fees. With my own merchant account it will only be $.41 in fees. Plus my name will be on the customers credit card statement, not anyone elses with my own merchant account and I can be more flexible with the prices and service add ons. Customers will only get one charge per month, not several as I had to do with instabill.com

I will also be changing to a merchant account from my bank, 0.15 in fees :D

Trouble is, Lloyds Bank in the UK will only take merchant accounts on if you can provide evidence that you are making money with your business.
Or something like that.

Can anyone suggest any good UK merchant banks?

--James

The .41 fee I said includes the fees for AVS, Address verification System. Good when most of my business in from the US.

How long after you fax into revecom credit card info, will you go "live"? And also, does anyone know if you can transfer reoccurring orders at instabill to revecom.com?

I am happy to say that I was able to get into instabill.com's control panel and cancel ALL my reoccurring charges.
Also copied everything I could think of. i.e. payments, dates, what's in my reserve, etc.

Now I pray that they send the money owed to me.

yeah thats nice..

Anyone know How long after you fax into revecom credit card info, will you go "live"? And also, does anyone know if you can transfer reoccurring orders at instabill to revecom.com?

My question is that they state in the Email
"all dues will be paid according to the payment and hold back schedules"

This tells me that they are going to take their holdbacks and run with them....

After looking at these sites more closely.. the site design is very similiar in how they go about it..
also the MCP is (C) by ZstarNetwork and also (C)2000 Pay Systems I don't see how thats possible to (C) a program under 2 different names.

They say they are not affiliated.. does not mean the same people or contacts are running it. To be affiliated is basically meaning their partners or under the same "Corporation"

Obviously there must be some kind of deal between the 2 companies..

Perhaps instabill was step 1 of the business promotion by offering cheaper fee's to get you in........ now notice revecom is more expensive.in its charges. 3.5% but 1.00 per transaction.. most web sales are under 15.00 making this more expensive proccessing

and also revecom has that 25.00 chargeback clause.. this makes you wonder if they fight for chargebacks or actually create them themselves as it profits them a nice little sum as long as they are under the % to not hurt their business.


The way I gather it. Instabill might have been a testing ground for the other company, and now that the newer company
takes the right route more affordably with the research and
whatnot gained from instabill

excuse my babble

poof

now paysystems.com is down.....

I reccomend everyone try Acenet-enterprises.net They allow you to have the order pages on your server. etc..

Any one ever try or use http://www.clickbank.com/

Tell you right now.. no proccessor is going to like your business as your structure is ridiculous. (1 year terms)
You are top reason why most 3rd party proccessors get in trouble.....

Basically, your looking at a 100% chargeback rate by charging via the year sale......any client complaining after even 6 months will most likely be refunded.........

Typically speaking a company with a new merchant account,
cannot even charge in advance over 30 days prepaid services.
Now the proccessor who can bypass this offsetably.. will have this eventually catch up to them and bring them heat, thus thats when the proccessors dissappear, and/or starts adding those harsh rules and getting rid of any company similair .. which is why hosting companies have hard time getting 3rd party proccessing.
and thus they all turn into tangible goods only sites like ccbill.com

You guys gotta charge monthly.... plain and simple..... or do 3 month plans under your own merchant account, or continue to be pee'd on by proccessors.. who will milk this new market until they no longer see a profit, and/or get closed down...And believe me.. they can give a rats tail about anyone they hurt when they have finished getting all they could.

I TOTALLY AGREE

Originally posted by TechnoHosts
I reccomend everyone try Acenet-enterprises.net They allow you to have the order pages on your server. etc..
TechnoHosts,

Acenet requires you to open an account with Kagi. Do you have to pay separately Kagi and Acenet for every transaction?

Originally posted by blofish
poof

now paysystems.com is down.....

Because revecom was down at the same time doesn't mean they're owned by the same people :)

InstaBill are (were :dgrin: ) located in Illinois and RevECom are located in Plattsburgh and Montreal.

Their servers aren't in the same places.

The control panel software (MCP) was done by the same company i think though.

Anyway, here's what revecom told me by email We are not going out of business. We are stable, growing company with over
7000 clients processing more than 21M USD per month.

They might be owned by the same people too (nobody knows), but i sure hope not :D

So do you think revcom is a wise choice then. i really dont want to spend the 50.00 setup fee if its going to be another instabill.

Most of my transactions on average range from 6.99 a month to 20.00 dollars a month.

How expensive is a merchant account through a bank? I heard it could range about 4 to 5 hundred for the setup fee.


Any suggestions?

IT MAN

Originally posted by IT man
So do you think revcom is a wise choice then. i really dont want to spend the 50.00 setup fee if its going to be another instabill.
Any suggestions?
IT MAN
Just signed up with revecom. I'm not worried:rolleyes:
Of course, I've never been accused of being too bright either:eek:

Thanks for the tip, It will be a few weeks before my site is re done.

Please let me know if your expirence with them is good or bad.

I have been leaning toward them for the last few days.

Thanks

IT MAN

I signed up for revecom.... And i'm going to fax the agreement and cc info tommorow.... Do anyone know if it matters if my addy for revecom is a PO BOX and the CC is a diff addy ?

Originally posted by Synergy
I signed up for revecom.... And i'm going to fax the agreement and cc info tommorow.... Do anyone know if it matters if my addy for revecom is a PO BOX and the CC is a diff addy ?
Well, if it doesn't; it should matter to them.
Let us know if they accept it the way it is.

Originally posted by IT man
Thanks for the tip, It will be a few weeks before my site is re done.
Please let me know if your expirence with them is good or bad.

I will definately return to this thread to let you know how my experience goes with them.;)

WoW, 577 posts already softwareRevue?

Well i have used paysystems.com for hundreds of transactions, they have always paid me in wire on time. I can vouch for them 100%, great support aswell!

Just use Ccnow as i do.
I use it for years without any problems

Just check http://www.ccnow.com

Nico

Flash, I agree CCNOw are very good. We use them as well. But I think the majority here are after a solution for a "non tangible" product such as web hosting, which CCNow is not meant to be used for.

Gary

WildWayz

Trouble is, Lloyds Bank in the UK will only take merchant accounts on if you can provide evidence that you are making money with your business. Or something like that. Can anyone suggest any good UK merchant banks?

Try planet payment (http://www.planetpayment.com)

its not cheap, but then you get what you pay for.

Planet Payment is the arm of Authorize.net that deals with those outside the usa. So atleast you know that its backed by one of the more stable names.

hope it of help.
;)

Originally posted by IT man
So do you think revcom is a wise choice then. i really dont want to spend the 50.00 setup fee if its going to be another instabill.

Most of my transactions on average range from 6.99 a month to 20.00 dollars a month.

How expensive is a merchant account through a bank? I heard it could range about 4 to 5 hundred for the setup fee.


Any suggestions?

IT MAN

I was set up with my own merchant account through http://www.electronictransfer.com for $69.95

$29.95 first month lease payment and $40 doc fee, they paid to
overnight my lease papers both ways.

I did this is one week. You need good credit to do this though.

They are even a member of the BBB, I checked the BBB and they had no bad complaints.

Originally posted by Ericd


Because revecom was down at the same time doesn't mean they're owned by the same people :)

InstaBill are (were :dgrin: ) located in Illinois and RevECom are located in Plattsburgh and Montreal.

Their servers aren't in the same places.

The control panel software (MCP) was done by the same company i think though.

Anyway, here's what revecom told me by email We are not going out of business. We are stable, growing company with over
7000 clients processing more than 21M USD per month.

They might be owned by the same people too (nobody knows), but i sure hope not :D

I asked these questions of Revecom myself, and they told me they and Instabill are not related in any way. There was once talk of the two merging, but that didn't happen. As for the MCC, well that's a licensed product from PaySystems (I believe) that Instabill is/was using, hence the similarities.

I'm trying to figure out why all these non-merchant processors are out of Pakistan (Instabill, Acenet, etc.) I didn't know the financial climate was so favorable there. ;)

Not to cause a panic....

When I initially signed up with Instabill (in July 2001) , the guy I spoke to flat out told me that Instabill and Revecom are owned by the same company. When I talked to a Revecom contact, he told me the "exact" same thing.

By the way, before the Instabill email today, I had a client sign up with Revecom last Wednesday and..... the account has not been set up (as of today) and we cannot seem to get a hold of anyone to talk to at Revecom or reply back to our emails. Soooooo.....anyone else been able to talk to anyone over there as of "today"??? Or should I tell my client to BAIL and we move her over to PayPal?

Thanks

Soph



Originally posted by blofish
After looking at these sites more closely.. the site design is very similiar in how they go about it..
also the MCP is (C) by ZstarNetwork and also (C)2000 Pay Systems I don't see how thats possible to (C) a program under 2 different names.

They say they are not affiliated.. does not mean the same people or contacts are running it. To be affiliated is basically meaning their partners or under the same "Corporation"

Obviously there must be some kind of deal between the 2 companies..

Perhaps instabill was step 1 of the business promotion by offering cheaper fee's to get you in........ now notice revecom is more expensive.in its charges. 3.5% but 1.00 per transaction.. most web sales are under 15.00 making this more expensive proccessing

and also revecom has that 25.00 chargeback clause.. this makes you wonder if they fight for chargebacks or actually create them themselves as it profits them a nice little sum as long as they are under the % to not hurt their business.


The way I gather it. Instabill might have been a testing ground for the other company, and now that the newer company
takes the right route more affordably with the research and
whatnot gained from instabill

excuse my babble

Originally posted by Soph
anyone else been able to talk to anyone over there as of "today"???


I got a reply from them (revecom) within 6 hours today.

They still haven't replied to my e-mail. :(

Yes, they have been alive and kicking over the last 24 hours. Replying to emails, and processing orders. And giving out a stringent assurance that they are not associated with Instabill.

Gary

Originally posted by Soph
Not to cause a panic....

When I initially signed up with Instabill (in July 2001) , the guy I spoke to flat out told me that Instabill and Revecom are owned by the same company. When I talked to a Revecom contact, he told me the "exact" same thing.



Hmm. That's interesting. . .

Still kinda worries about using revecom

I got one lame email reply outta 3 emails I sent to paysystems.
and that one did not entice me to go thru with my signup..

They stated they were not affiliated with Instabill
which I didn't even ask. That makes me more curious as to whats going on..

Also, the reply was very weak and didnt answer all my questions,
and was made by someone who does not speak english evem half as good as Instabill.

I would love to go back to IBILL, but I have the problem where I have charges over 99.95/m to 20% of my clientel which is ibills limit. some 50.00 for reoccurring.

Revecom is not likely going to die because of the following reasons:

1) Since Instabill died, most likely their users would go to Revecom.

2) They said so. :D

I have contacted revecom and asked them to reply to these threads and explain.

I hate to brag about my own service...

<<MOD EDIT: Then DON'T, this isn't the advertising forum!>>


a kagi account is required to use my service, To reduce my burden im asking my customers to signup with kagi. That way i can transfer payments to your kagi account and then kagi can send you your checks. That way you're assured that you will be paid on time

<<MOD EDIT: Removed the ad portion of the post.>>

Originally posted by ^Kyo
<<MOD EDIT: Removed.>>

How long have you been providing this sort of bussiness??

After I have read your post at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16890

I am a little worried about your services.

Can you post a few clients website that using your payment system??

<<MOD NOTE:>>
We ask that you consider products and services from companies and individuals who do NOT board-spam the forums.
<</MOD NOTE>>

DONT BE worried. that post had NOTHING to do with my service. you should really stop jumping to conclusions. As i mentioned i was trying out 2mhost.com for someone else. Bah i wouldnt use a $3/month service if someone paid me for it. I have been using tera-byte which i know can be trusted. Excellent support.

<<MOD EDIT>>

Sorry but i would NEVER go with a company who does NOT have a head office in the U.S, not pointing fingers here, but i prefer a company with headquarters in the U.S for legal purposes.

Thats your choice. Our processor is kagi and im not hiding that fact. Kagi is in the us

<<MOD EDIT:>>
Ask a moderator how close you are to having your URL censored.
<</MOD EDIT>>

Originally posted by ^Kyo
Thats your choice. Our processor is kagi and im not hiding that fact. Kagi is in the us <<MOD EDIT>>


LOL... I completely agree, although I like the servers in the US.

Going back to the topic...
I belong to a company that has been badly burned by Instabill. We're now looking into Revecom, if it is true that Revecom and Instabill are not related.

<<MOD NOTE:>>
Participants may not use the forum to publish or discuss any information regarding their product or services. This includes suggesting your own services.
<</MOD NOTE>>

Originally posted by ^Kyo
<<EDIT>>

Hi,

Just wanted to check out your site. Might be just me but your site doesn't load.

<<MOD NOTE:>>
We ask that you consider products and services from companies and individuals who do NOT board-spam the forums.
<</MOD NOTE>>

really it seems to be working fine here. U should checkwith ur isp.

<<MOD NOTE:>>
All further posts by you in this forum will be removed due to your shameless self-promotion within this thread. This will be your last warning regarding the guidelines of this forum and if you cannot control yourself, your username may be banned, and/or your URL censored.
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:D , I was waiting for that editing.

I remember way back that someone said Instabill and Revecom was related, but I don`t remember very well. Maybe I heard they were owned by VeriSign.

Originally posted by Hostexp
I have contacted revecom and asked them to reply to these threads and explain.
Thank you. I eagerly await their reply.

Dear Merchants,

In order to help you make the transition from Instabill.com/zStar Network, Inc. to another billing company in a manner which will cause your customers the least inconvenience we have partnered with Click Bank.

So that the change of billing companies is quick and effective without extra cost applicable to the Merchant, Click Bank has agreed to take Instabill merchants without their normal setup fee of $49.95.

You may sign up at the following link, as this will allow you to forego the initial set up fee:

http://zzz.clickbank.net/r/?instabill

Our support team will help you in any way required.

Thank you for your cooperation and support.

Regards
Support Team
support@instabill.com


Setup fee waived? Nice.

Yeah I just got the same email just a few minutes ago...

Going to the linke right now to check it out...I doubt I'll use them though...

Yead, I'd rather have the revecom setup fee waived than clickbank :D As i don't think clickbank support recurring transactions.

yeah really... I'd rather have something besides ClinkBank... Its too much a pain in the arse to use them....

In order to help you make the transition from Instabill.com/zStar Network, Inc. to another billing company in a manner which will cause your customers the least inconvenience we have partnered with Click Bank.

I can not see how this is possible.

"in a manner which will cause your customers the least inconvenience..."

I clicked on the link and signed up just for the reason stated above. There is not a option for reocurring charges. I know it doesn't say 'reocurring customers', but I'm sure you can say that this is very misleading.

Why mislead thousands of desperate 'merchant accountless' merchants? Click Bank's affiliate program =]

on another note... I emailed instabill support asking aobut transfering records of reocurring clients.

They answered my email in less than 5 minutes. What I time to beef up your response time =]

But... no such luck. THey won't be able to transfer any records. =[

I just sent another email asking how signing up with click bank will benifit our clients =]

I'll let you know what I find out.

Originally posted by Ericd
Yead, I'd rather have the revecom setup fee waived than clickbank :D As i don't think clickbank support recurring transactions.

We got the same message... but we were already a Clickbank member long before we signed up for instabill (we were selling other products that didn't involve recurring billing). We even had a different name then.


We signed up for instabill for the recurring billing thing and thhat alone and now they drop this? They could've at least looked for a transition partner that didn't have only one kind of billing involved. :mad:

As it is, waiving the fee for us is useless because we already paid it last year :eek:

Anyhoo, I do agree with you... I'd rather have the setup fee of revecom waived.

Hello

I am already using clickbank in two other sites but I have not seen anything about recurring bills on their system.

However their support is very friendly, I thin they are not very suitable for hosting.

And a question. Isn't there anyway other than paying $49 to revecom?!!! Is there any other stable service without setup fee?

By the way I followed clickbank link in instabill mail but I did not found any option for instabill customers moving to clickbank.

And I think they will not weive their setup fee. Have anyone contacted clickbank on this matter?


Regards,
Mac

yes, i just received email confirmation from clickbank, the fee is waived if you are a transfer

even if click bank was ok to use, you see those fee's
1.00 plus 8% geez........ just take my whole paycheck

well so far,, revecom hasnt answered theyre call

Support so far support is horrbile. no replies.

Nothing but ways you can contact them but they all through you in a endless loop. Web site boasts of how great it is and online chat and 1800 numbers that seem to get you nowhere.

and the beef about them proccessing 21m and them being on the up and up.. dont mean squat to me...

I seem to recall a company named ccslide.com that was the same type business... on the up and up...and all of a sudden POOF goodbye we dont do this no more. go elsewhere.


Yes, Instabill is gonna support right now..... see theyre gonna milk all they can out of sending to new places, etc. sell your name as well too... Expect spam and other things in your mail as well

I think I have all the answers..

I believe Revecom didnt even have a non tangible option a few months ago.. I could be wrong, it might have been another company I am thinking of..

I do believe that these companies do not really want hosting clients and other services similiar selling non tangible goods..

But the fact is...... it's that they originally want to target these hosts to get them in their company because the fact is..... a web host will have thousands of clients under them selling products.. then in turn getting them more real clients........ then they shut the doors on the hosting companies and non tangible goods when they are at the stable point in tangible sales

Originally posted by blofish
I think I have all the answers..

I believe Revecom didnt even have a non tangible option a few months ago.. I could be wrong, it might have been another company I am thinking of..

I do believe that these companies do not really want hosting clients and other services similiar selling non tangible goods..

But the fact is...... it's that they originally want to target these hosts to get them in their company because the fact is..... a web host will have thousands of clients under them selling products.. then in turn getting them more real clients........ then they shut the doors on the hosting companies and non tangible goods when they are at the stable point in tangible sales

Incorrect, Revecom has always offered non tangibles since I've been with them, and that is about 6 months or so.

I disagree with "these" companies not wanting hosting clients and other services that aren't tangible, they just charge you the chargeback fee, it doesn't hurt them.

Also, even if I use Revecom, it doesn't meant that my clients will.

Revecom has been awesome, I've worked with their staff when I was having problems with checks, they set up direct deposits to my bank (US Bank) and did it JUST FOR ME (notice that US Bank is the only bank that they will send direct deposits to?)... They went out of their way for me to avoid these wire transfer fees and their support has been nothing but great!

A+++ to Revecom!

i wonder what happend that they wanted to shut it down. :bawling:

They must have done something illegal w/ the way they handled peoples billing information. With the fee's they charge, I can't imagine that money would be the problem here.

All I know is that it is the 15th, and I *still* haven't gotten my check from the period that ended at the end of last month.

Also, reocurring charges have been dropping like flys the past couple weeks. It was getting to be a pain to have clients resubmit their information.

Not as much of a pain it is going to be to contact EVERY client now and get them to resubmit.

As related to a prior post I made... after getting that quick 5 minute reply from instabill about transfering billing info to another service, I sent another email asking them how clickbank would benifit my current clients (as they said it would in the email they sent everybody). 16 hours later and no reply ;)

Don't click on their clickbank link... it's just an affiliate program scam.

I signed up for instabill about a month ago. I got a email the next day saying sorry we are not accepting offers. I called and left a message with instabill and some foreign guy called me back. I begged him to accept my application. he said what business do you do? I said Webhosting. He said " no thanks thats why we stopped taking applications." i said why is that? he said have your heard of tacid host? LMAO ya i have. he replied, the owner had several fake companies signed up with us and he has so many clients that he waited till the money piled in then closed down 1 business signed up another and closed down that one and etc. he siad it was so bad that VISA themselfs called instabill chewing them out!! He finally signed me up but said i would be the last customer until he was taken off probation?? i guess that's with visa? so apparently instabill got yanked becuase of problems with companies like tacid. GRRRRR It's hard to believe that the punk shang can cause so much trouble to everyone!!

I switched to revecom and so far I am impressed.


Long Live Shang:angry:

Wow...

I had no idea the tacid scam was that far reaching.

(to think...I almost felt guilty starting that lenghty thread against another host)

Gary

Originally posted by CoreyC
Don't click on their clickbank link... it's just an affiliate program scam.

Ditto! That's what I told my team mates who had forgotten that we already had a clickbank account...

If instabill is going down, they think they might as well earn commissions from sign-ups to clickbank hoplinks.




Wow...

I had no idea the tacid scam was that far reaching.

(to think...I almost felt guilty starting that lenghty thread against another host)

Gary



Many of us are glad you did. Otherwise, many more people would've been victimized.

Remember, Shang spread his venom not only to instabill but also to other billing companies such as Verza (which was his first billing company) and who knows where else!

Who exactly is shang? I've heard of tacid blue before but what's shang?

Originally posted by ^Kyo
Who exactly is shang? I've heard of tacid blue before but what's shang?

^Kyo, is your signature legal?
I think I saw an admin warn you about this signature... :confused:

Anyways, to learn more about Shang go search for tacid on the message boards... I'm not sure I'm allowed to lead you to old posts... Look for a particular post titled "It has to be done" started by Editor.

Originally posted by skysenshi
. . . .is your signature legal?The way I read the rules, it isn't:rolleyes:

My signature is legal, just like any other signature. Bah.

Originally posted by ^Kyo
My signature is legal, just like any other signature. Bah. You're right. It's not any worse than any others. I apologize:rolleyes:
But, let me say this about Bah.............lose it. Learn a language. Any language. Someway of expressing yourself.
I'm not necessarily addressing you, ^Kyo, but, anyone that uses that expression.
:stickout

Originally posted by ^Kyo
My signature is legal, just like any other signature. Bah.

I was just asking. Hello?? No need to be so stuffy with how you answer me. There are so many rules in this board even I get confused so you should understand.

I just saw it got edited on another post so I'm asking, and I'm not even angry. I think you should tone your angry tone a little (and here I was just about to look into your payment gateway as a replacement for instabill... if this is how you treat other people, I'd rather not even recommend you.)

LOL!

U think thats my angry tone? ROFL... bah its just an expression... remember it used be my signature a while back ;) No offense i hope :)

Originally posted by ^Kyo
My signature is legal, just like any other signature. Bah.


Hey, you chill it. With the way you talk, people may not even take a look at what you have to offer. :angry:

Regarding your "Bah"... i might even mistake you for a goat. :D

Originally posted by ^Kyo
LOL!

U think thats my angry tone? ROFL... bah its just an expression... remember it used be my signature a while back ;) No offense i hope :)

I got your PM... I'm not really angry... It just might be my irritation I'm pouring out on you 'cause I just saw an old "nemesis" on the boards... he's the same person/host you're asking about.

Uh... and yeah, just a reminder... I'm a girl :D
(Boy do I miss my old avatar... at least back then people know I'm a girl because of the pic! he he)


Oh, and that was my fiance up there discussing goats... uh... well, goats here in my country always say "baaa-aah" so we kind of thought of an angry goat when you said "bah" :stickout

Anyhoo... things are well I hope...

Bah may be a word of expression. . . . . .

but it leaves a bad impression :rolleyes:

LOL.

All is well ;)

I agree with SoftWareRevue on this. When I read the way he writes, I am offended by that. I don't even bother to see what he has to offer.
:stickout

anyhoo, instabill is dead. Lets leave it at that ;)

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Bah may be a word of expression. . . . . .

but it leaves a bad impression :rolleyes:

Not as bad as "pffffffffft" :D

--James

I can tell it is time to close the thread when there is a 1/2 page discussion over 'bah'...