so I'm thining of going with webreseller.net to start reselling -- who else should I consider? I want to go with a "top level" provider, not somebody who is also a reseller.

thanks!

http://www.dathorn.com
http://www.unitedhosting.co.uk

Either one of those providers is strong and well known on this board. You can always try your hand in the Shared and Reseller Hosting Requests forum as well and post back with your results.

Hmm. Certainly is a lot of "newbies" all of a sudden looking at webreseller.

Either they are looking at webreseller because they are new and don't know any better or.... they are new and they aren't really looking. I'm thinking the latter. :eek:

If you really are new, do a search. There has been a lot said recently in numerous threads.

Just because someone is new at WHT, doesnt make them new to the webhosting market.

Also what would an industry be without new entrances? Just like any other industry there will always be startup hosts.

"Stay on target! Stay on target!" (Star Wars quote)

I've been watching the posts about webresller, yes. sounds like isolated growing pains, with good things to come?

one thing I like is that they have their own data center, which neither dathorn nor unitedhosting have. for some reason I don't fully trust the whole colocation thing, and prefer a small data center. am I wrong?

anyway. more please!

Originally posted by trick
"Stay on target! Stay on target!" (Star Wars quote)

I've been watching the posts about webresller, yes. sounds like isolated growing pains, with good things to come?

one thing I like is that they have their own data center, which neither dathorn nor unitedhosting have. for some reason I don't fully trust the whole colocation thing, and prefer a small data center. am I wrong?

anyway. more please!

Ok so you admit that WebReseller has some "isolated growing pains" but you're still considering them?

You also mention dathorn and UH which are both rock solid and I would highly recommend to anyone, why not sign up with them? Do a search for dathorn or UH and try to find anything but positive reviews, you'll be searching an awfully long time.

dathorn's servers are mostly at ThePlanet.com (http://www.theplanet.com/) which is very highly regarded (one of the reasons I signed up for a dathorn account is because of theplanet).

UH I'm not sure where their servers are.

Bigger DC's tend to have better facilities and redundancy than smaller companies trying to run their own, far smaller facility.

Take a look at RS, now running 13 gigabit connections. You would be lucky to find one of those at a small private DC.

Anyway back ontrack....

I think UH is at rackshack? Their website says "All of our webservers are located on the world class EV1 network in Texas, USA. The network consists of 13 Gigabit Ethernet backbone connections to the internet plus one OC-3 link and one DS-3 link..."

that's a good point about bigger, better facilities, but if you go with someone colocated in those facilities isn't their ability to fix/improve things less than if they had their own data center?

I think UH is at rackshack?

27 servers and loving them all :)

that's a good point about bigger, better facilities, but if you go with someone colocated in those facilities isn't their ability to fix/improve things less than if they had their own data center?


It may give them better access to the servers, but it doesnt improve response time or ability :)

so just the two other hosts? there must be others to check out...

They may have their own datacenter, but I wouldn't say that guarantees you much.

Originally posted by trick
so just the two other hosts? there must be others to check out... Okay how 'bout Ventures Online (http://www.venturesonline.com) - they run their own datacenter and have a great reputation for support.

And a few others, in no particular order:
- ResellerSpace (http://www.resellerspace.net/index.php)
- PixieHost (http://www.pixiehost.com/index.php)
- HTTPme (http://www.httpme.com/)
- Voxtreme (http://www.voxtreme.com/index.htm)
- Clook Net (http://www.clook.net/) (I thought they were ClookHost, when did they change?)
- CredibleHost (http://www.crediblehost.com/index.htm)

All of these have received good reports on these boards - some more recently than others - but I don't remember many negatives about any of them.

Good luck!
yjack

uh matt - I think you missed the gist of my post.

prefer a small data center. am I wrong?

yes, you are wrong. But small data center or large, good response or bad - downtime is still always downtime.

"yes, you are wrong." -- can you explain? your posting style seems a bit rude, by the way...

kathystover has issues with us and they are of a personal nature, you will see this in many other posts. She is the first to bad mouth us when she gets a chance. For that matter, she rarely has anything nice to say and she also goes by another name online.

We did have some issues, however, EVERY issue has been resolved and it was some great growing pains.. :( We cleared up all the issues and added on some great new services and backend systems. If you would like to try an account we would be happy to set you up on a trial basis.

Originally posted by yjack
(I thought they were ClookHost, when did they change?)

12th May 2003.

Originally posted by webseller
...... she also goes by another name online.


Interesting comment. I notice you no longer go by the name webreseller on this forum.

Any reason in particular?

sigh. no squabbling please. if you have a host to suggest, please do. if you have a comment about what to look for in a host (own data center vs. colocation, etc.), please speak up. stay on target!

thanks.

Oh please, webreseller! You know both my husband and I are owners of our hosting company and that we both have posted here - you've talked with us both over the phone numerous times. And anyone can call us on our toll free and ask to speak to any of our staff.

As for the problems being personal, yes I take it personally when you repeatedly lie to us and everyone else about your numerous DC problems. Thank God we only decided to try out your DC with one small box which we have since migrated to more a more stable environment.

BTW, from posts on the Dedicated Forum, you guys are DOWN AGAIN REPEATEDLY LAST WEEK AND THIS WEEKEND! Is this part of the "on-going" 45 days worth of problems or is this a new era in new problems for you. Either way, you have tons of problems and blaming us isn't helping you. We are just sitting back and watching your train wreck.

this is totally off topic.

stop it. please.

Originally posted by trick
this is totally off topic.

stop it. please.

I understand these posts may not be the kind of posts that you intended to elicit; however in an open environment such as this I believe the "topic" is whatever/wherever the community takes it.

Sorry Trick and I didn't mean it as rude, just buzy and typing in a response fast.

Small data centers often times don't have the resources that the larger, more established ones have. For example, as webreseller has stated, they are having growing pains because they are just now putting in better resources such as the redundency that many of us thought that they already had.

If you go with a small data center, don't be afraid to ask a lot of questions about how they are set up and then be sure to verify it as best you can. As we have seen, some of the DCs say they are one thing but don't really have anything to back up the claim. By contrast, a larger more established DC will have the resources and many more clients available that can vouch for what the company is claiming.

good points.
and look, I'm not a "newbie" anymore!
:)

so so far I have in my list:
webreseller
dathorn
unitedhosting
clook
voxtreme
httpme
pixiehost
crediblehost
fluidhosting

any others that are really good or that I should check out?

If you want a top-level host and not a reseller, webreseller is your absolute best bet.

Originally posted by trick
so so far I have in my list:
webreseller
dathorn
unitedhosting
clook
voxtreme
httpme
pixiehost
crediblehost
fluidhosting

any others that are really good or that I should check out?

Idologic (http://www.idologic.com/reseller.html)

HostNexus (http://www.hostnexus.com/resellers/index.htm)

VNPixel (http://www.vnpixel.com/reseller.htm) (free double resources until 9/1)

Looks like an impressive list, now comes the hard part deciding!

I would take a good hard look at clook.net and idologic.com

wow...
And another thread I was asking if anyone knew these guys :-) webreseller.net.
There is so much about them already!!

I know. It is weird isn't it? All of a sudden, seems like.

And on one of the other forums, reports of more down time as of today.

No down time at all today, there was a newsletter sent out yesterday to our clients stating we were doing a router upgrade.... Upgrade was completed at 2:35 AM

Originally posted by kathystover
And on one of the other forums, reports of more down time as of today.

You're joking, surely? It was scheduled maintenance.

Gary

You're joking, surely? It was scheduled maintenance.

All I'm going on is the post on the "web hosting" forum where some said their box(s) was/were down and webreseller's own site was down too.

I believe you posted that it was maintenance but that webreseller's notification was for the wrong date. Others posted that they didn't get notification. Obviously either scenerio doesn't exactly make a "scheduled" maintenance downtime since no one could figure out what the "schedule" is/was.

You seem to know more about webreseller than webreseller does.:confused: :confused: How exactly did you know that their notification was wrong when no one else knew? Again, I'm just going by what other people are saying - downtime, no notification, etc.

Originally posted by kathystover
[B]All I'm going on is the post on the "web hosting" forum where some said their box(s) was/were down and webreseller's own site was down too.

I'm not at all surprised that that would cause you to post in another thread that "they were down".

I believe you posted that it was maintenance but that webreseller's notification was for the wrong date. Others posted that they didn't get notification. Obviously either scenerio doesn't exactly make a "scheduled" maintenance downtime since no one could figure out what the "schedule" is/was.

It's either scheduled or it's not. The notice came out, and it said "tonight" (yesterday). It had 21/8 in the subject, so there was a mistake in the subject. Mistakes happen...we're over it.

You seem to know more about webreseller than webreseller does.:confused: :confused:

We take an active interest in the good providers.

How exactly did you know that their notification was wrong when no one else knew?

Others knew. Read the other thread. But we knew, and without trying to sound selfish that's all that directly matters to us. But when I came here and saw someone post that they couldn't reach their server, I was glad to have helped by telling them there was a scheduled maintenance period happening.

You'd just prefer to post that they're "down" again in other threads.

That's the difference.

Again, I'm just going by what other people are saying - downtime, no notification, etc.

Your constant barrage of attacks on Webreseller is reflecting poorly only on yourself...if you are going to make them based on "just what other people are saying", then that's not helping you any.

Gary

Ho, hum. Another thread down the toilet. And to think people were actually trying to help someone here. . . and now this.

what alchiba said.

:(

Look, there have been numerous threads about the problems with webreseller. I have not posted in all of them, there have been far too many. Also I have never started ANY of them. The fact that you keep defending them in the face of so many problems is odd.

This is a dead horse.

trick, feel free to start a new thread. You now have a decent list of resellers, so ask for personal opinions on those of your choice :)