View Full Version : iPowerweb - Is it good for plain, simple site?
Hi everyone,
I have browsed the site looking for a good host for around $7-10 a month. I am currently with Whizhost but my domain is not getting picked up by dmoz or google. Whizhost also does not offer a form to email code which I would like to have since I am more a designer than a programmer.
I am looking into iPowerweb because it looks attractive for the price. I just need a simple hosting company (loading speed is not as important as uptime). I also noticed they include a form to email code which makes creating an online form easy.
My main question is what have been anyone elses experiences with iPowerweb? If I have a simple site and just want a host that google and dmoz can pickup, then isn't iPowerweb good enough? Thanks for any input.
Drew
They oversell horrible, and have ~2000-3000 domains on each server (at least).
They are slow as hell.
But if that doesn't bother you, they ARE big, so they ARE pretty reliable.
IGobyTerry 08-23-2003, 03:15 PM If you can put up with slow, overloaded servers, iPowerWeb is the perfect choice for you. :)
tlbinteractive 08-23-2003, 04:57 PM They are a brilliant host as my friend has been with them for a while now. I wouldnt say they oversell but Xie is right about the server speed.
Curtis H. 08-23-2003, 05:10 PM Originally posted by dndn
Hi everyone,
I have browsed the site looking for a good host for around $7-10 a month.
Drew. While iPowerWeb may be okay, why settle for less? You should be on a good/fast server and get top notch support. Not sure of your exact needs but I'd suggest you look at some of the hosting providers that can be found on these forums. Some worth looking in the $7-$10 range are:
Enhancedhost.com (http://www.enhancedhost.com/plans.html) (Look for monthly special info on their forums for a sweeter deal.)
Myacen.com (http://www.myacen.com/virtualhosting.html) (Very good reputation. I am a client.)
Hostingmatters.com (http://www.hostingmatters.com/comparison.html)
There are others but thats a couple that come to mind. Good luck with who ever you decide to go with.
Does the host have anything to do with getting listed in google or dmoz? Like I mentioned before I am with Whizhost and I was listed in Google for about a week and now I am not. I don't know whether this has to do with the host or not. Thanks for the input Curtis H. It sounds like iPowerWeb is slow. I mainly need to get a client listed in google (which I have done fairly successfully with other hosts, but I have not had much luck since I have been with Whizhost). Not sure what to think. Thanks for any further input you guys can give.
Enabler 08-23-2003, 08:18 PM Originally posted by dndn
Does the host have anything to do with getting listed in google or dmoz? Like I mentioned before I am with Whizhost and I was listed in Google for about a week and now I am not.
There are alot of reasons why you would have been dropped from Google. If Google has found your site the reason is likely the domain, site code or your marketing methods.
Are you sure you have been dropped, it might be that your site is listed on page 100 or something.
Thanks
Paul
I was registered in Google one week and then when I type in my exact url, it doesn't bring back anything. This leads me to believe they dropped me. I didn't know whether or not it was the host that was causing this or google just dropped the site. My clients have other sites with other hosting companies and they do not get dropped and have had good success with getting listed, but this site with Whizhost is no longer listed. I don't know where the problem is, but I would suspect the host (don't know how to prove that though).
I am a web designer who likes the design aspect more than the code aspect. I do know how to code in the meta tags, etc. to get the site listed, but selecting a hosting company has me lost. I guess I just need to know if anyone has had horrible luck with iPowerWeb or if there are other sites hosted by iPowerWeb that I can checkout to see their speed. Thanks for any input.
Originally posted by Veg
They are a brilliant host as my friend has been with them for a while now. I wouldnt say they oversell but Xie is right about the server speed.
I would say over 2000 active sites on a server is overselling. :)
unkn0wn 08-23-2003, 10:01 PM Ok Dude Speed Should Matter But If All You Care About Is Uptime I Recomend http://www.thenetbox.com They Have 99.9% Uptime And A 30 Day Money Back Guarentee. And I'am Also A Customer From There And Its Great Service. Support Always Replies In At The Most 10 Hours. And With The Prices Starting At $4/month For 50 mb Of Webspace And 5000 mb Of Bandwidth Its A Pretty Good Value :D
Steve65 08-24-2003, 09:50 AM I’ve just recently found out that a certain website hosted by iPowerweb inc is in breach of our copyright… the offending website www.webmaster-guru.com is basically stealing other peoples content and displaying it on their own website, for instance they have numerous articles of ours on showtest
With regard to iPowerWeb I wrote to all of there advertised email addresses, only to told that I needed to contact abuse@ipowerwebs.com with my complaint… which was duly sent… however that is the last I have heard from them on the matter… the offending website is still operational… and I’ve not had answers to any of my further emails, except one stating this:
Re: Copyright Infringement Notice - www.webmaster-guru.com.
Reference Number: 030822-003451
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Hello: Steve FX Digital
Recently you had an interaction with one of our Customer Support Team Members here at iPowerWeb, Inc. Could you please take a moment to respond to the brief questions in this survey? We hope to use this feedback in an effort to improve our support services.
Click Here
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Thank you for the input and your time. Sincerely, David Sipes Director of Quality Assurance iPowerWeb, Inc.
Click here to be removed from our survey recipient list.
Receipt of which would be quite funny if the subject matter wasn’t so serious… honestly do these people even bother to read there emails… my experience so far doubts that they do… or if they do they don’t seem to act on them.
Based on my own experience and having been on the Internet since 1994, making my living from it since 1996… I wouldn’t recommend anyone to use iPowerweb services… not based on there reaction times, customer service and there approach to providing quick, speedy resolutions to problems.
Regards
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PS - FX Digital is the parent company....
Reality Hosting 08-24-2003, 12:25 PM Look for a host that isn't offering quite that much for the same price range. As others have stated, IPower does quite a bit of overselling
Arkansas 08-24-2003, 02:05 PM I was with iPowerWeb for about a week - 10 days in July. We wanted an inexpensive host and their prices are pretty good. We had just a few simple needs that their web site indicated they support. One was the ability to forward email addresses to multiple addresses. iPowerWeb's site said they could do that. We signed up. When this feature didn't work as their online help indicated, I sent 1 or 2 email support requests about this to them. The replies were comedic. I got canned answers that simply stated something about email that was already on their website and did not answer my question. Finally, I got someone on the phone about this that told me they DON'T support this. I had one or two similiar issues about what their online info said and what the reality was. There was also several days that some of our email accounts received no email (which is unusual). Of course I triple-checked our setup on our end and it was correct. I called iPowerWeb about this and they said they were not experiencing any email problems. That was it. I switched to ArteryPlanet (www.averyplanet.net) and the email came flooding into our accounts (as is normal). Other than having to re-send an email question when the first one wasn't answered within 24 hours, they have been good for us.
If you have simple needs and just want a good low-cost solution, iPowerWeb may be OK but you may want to insure particular needs you have are supported by them, regardless of what their online info says. Or check out ArteryPlanet.net or some of the other ones mentioned in this thread.
JeremyL 08-24-2003, 02:52 PM You guys say they oversell but what are you basing this off of? A friend of a friend? How would anyone know how many domains they put on one server?
Reality Hosting 08-24-2003, 03:09 PM There was another thread recently, where and ex Ipowerweb client was talking about how the server load on his server had gone over 100 at times.
Overselling isn't bad if it's done responsibly. The problem arises when you pack so many clients on a server that it causes slow load times for other clients (Something I've heard my people complain about)
JeremyL 08-24-2003, 03:11 PM Yes having a customer talk about load on server going over 100 is one thing. Saying a number of like 2-3K domains per server is another. Just seems people are pulling numbers out thier bum.
HRBrendan 08-24-2003, 03:14 PM I would be very - no very very surprised if someone could actually prove that they have that many domains per server. Until I see some proof, this is just another small host that hasnt even got a completed website making up crap about a big one.
-Brendan
Aussie Bob 08-24-2003, 03:42 PM Originally posted by JeremyL
You guys say they oversell but what are you basing this off of? A friend of a friend? How would anyone know how many domains they put on one server?
Little Jimmy's Aunt had a cousin who lived next door to the best friend of a checkout girl who used to date one of the IPowerWeb techs. :D
blue27 08-24-2003, 04:16 PM Steve65, do you have some sort of time line as to your requests to have this site removed. They can't just pull a site because you sent them an email. They have to investigate. How can they know the content was stolen without looking into things?
As for the survey, if you think the service is poor why not just fill out that survey and let them know your thoughts.
Originally posted by JeremyL
Yes having a customer talk about load on server going over 100 is one thing. Saying a number of like 2-3K domains per server is another. Just seems people are pulling numbers out thier bum.
http://www.whois.sc/gaming-pulse.com
"Reverse IP: Web server hosts 2120 websites"
Friend's site that I setup for him, it's on Server 35 at Ipowerweb.
Since they don't do domain parking like GoDaddy and eNom, we can assume that a large majority of them are active sites. :(
EDIT: Did a google search for some sites hosted by Ipowerweb. Then a whois.sc
Reverse IP: Web server hosts 2140 websites
Reverse IP: Web server hosts 1325 websites
It goes on. :)
nickn 08-24-2003, 05:26 PM Keep in mind each of their customers could have 3 parked domains pointing to their main domain, then they'd only have some 400 sites per server ;)
Not saying they don't...not saying they do....however, just saying you don't know for sure :)
Reality Hosting 08-24-2003, 05:35 PM Since they don't do domain parking like GoDaddy and eNom, we can assume that a large majority of them are active sites
If this is true, then they don't have any parked domains.
I don't know if each CUSTOMER gets extra domains, but they don't do flat out domain parking.
Looking at their plan, it appears that you get one domain. I don't even know if you can pay extra to add more.
HRBrendan 08-24-2003, 07:09 PM Im basing my assumption that they have nowhere near that many sites per server on knowing that i also offer high traffic accounts and most servers take about 1/10th of what youre saying theyre putting on theirs.
-Brendan
What the hell are you saying? I just showed you a reverse IP lookup thats shows servers with 1000-2100 domains.
They offer basically one domain per package. What proof do you want?
nickn 08-24-2003, 07:25 PM I know ipowerweb bought out a free host awhile back. Maybe it has something to do with these free sites. Who knows...nobody. Point made.
Well does the host have anything to do with getting listed on (google, dmoz, etc.)?
I have heard that if the hosting company hosts adult material it can affect your site getting listed in google. Is this just a rumor or can the host actually affect your listing?
I have searched around and iPowerweb seems pretty well suited to my needs:
(1) good uptime
(2) pre-configured form to email
(3) goog price
(4) speed is important but not as important to me as the upper three things listed.
Oh well, I am finding it difficult to decide because everyone tells me something different and all turns out to who do you trust.
Have any ideas on the questions above...
For $7-10 a month, I would personally recommend http://UnitedHosting.co.uk
AHFB HTML 08-24-2003, 09:45 PM I know server security was not a listed requirement, it just goes without saying. On this note I must suggest reading a thread at my forums http://www.ahfb2000.com/webmaster_help_desk/showthread.php?t=1231
disclaimer: I am not a competing web host, nor do I have any desire to become a web host.
disclaimer2: It is a link to my site, so if it is viewed as spam please remove the link. On occasion I may post my own links or links to others if and only if the information is relevant and can be of help.
Dave
I am with Whizhost and the site is not searchable in google as of today. Does any recommend any good submission companies. What sites are good to submit from and what is a good, cheap submission company that can get a site listed within 2-3 days. Thanks for any input.
AHFB HTML 08-24-2003, 10:07 PM I doubt the host is the problem with your listings, the odds of a host getting a SE ban are slim at best. Submission companies will do you absolutely NO good, especially in 2-3 days.
Your first step would be to study up on the search engines, this will help eliminate the myths which you seem to have learned by.
Seperate the issues, SE rankings and web hosting are not related, except in .0000001(not factual) of the cases
Dave
HRBrendan 08-24-2003, 10:20 PM Originally posted by xie
What the hell are you saying? I just showed you a reverse IP lookup thats shows servers with 1000-2100 domains.
They offer basically one domain per package. What proof do you want?
Thats not proof, thats an assumption.
-Brendan
Website Rob 08-24-2003, 10:22 PM Originally posted by dndn
Well does the host have anything to do with getting listed on (google, dmoz, etc.)?
I have heard that if the hosting company hosts adult material it can affect your site getting listed in google. Is this just a rumor or can the host actually affect your listing?The Hosting provider, per se, does not have as much to do with a SE listing as the IP address does. SEs go by IPs and they don't care who is providing it. What they do care about is the type of sites using the IP -- porn, spam, etc. It's one of the reason why, anyone serious about SE placement should always get a Dedicated IP, and preferably, being able to first confim it is not listed in the Spam Databases (http://dnsstuff.com/).
The frustration level goes waayyy up, when someone finds out their IP -- doesn't matter if Shared or Dedicated -- is listed in the Spam Databases. With a Dedicated IP that is not blacklisted, one shouldn't have worry. With a Shared IP, one nevers knows what another Web site may be doing with that IP.
Steve65 08-24-2003, 10:24 PM blue27 - Proof of ownership was established without doubt... and purporting to offer 24hour support/service means just that... you actually have to offer this support/service.
After sending an email of complaint and remember we are a commerical organisation, I would have expected some sort of email back within say 24/48 hrs saying that they had received my complaint and that they were looking into it...
I would never expect to be completely ignored as is the case with iPowerWeb... apart from some guys at support saying it has nothing to do with us... plz contact abuse@iPowerweb.com and then nothing... a question cannot different departments at iPowerWeb speak to each other...
I deal with a lot of hosting companies and many, many of them receive our newsletter, The Web Builder Bulletin... and IPowerWeb are amongst the worst companies I have dealt with, with regard to customer service and abuse claims.
Steve
Originally posted by HRBrendan
Thats not proof, thats an assumption.
-Brendan
2000+ domains with that IP.
ONE domain per package.
It's quite and educated assumption.
Andrew 08-24-2003, 10:28 PM Most search engines. (just about any worth their salt) go by domain name, not IP address. Google does not crawl by IP addy. None of the major ones I can think of do either.
As far as sites per server go: Who gives a damn? If the service is good and downtime is at a minimum, what difference does it make? If service is bad, leave. If others do the same, there will be less sites per server. :D
WebDigger 08-25-2003, 02:36 AM If you have small site (up to 100Mb) and you don't need free phone support, I'd recommend you to use the other hosting - there are many other reliable hosters with cheap plans (no more than $3-5/mo.) with a lot of free scripts (including mail forms) and more services than Ipowerweb can offer...
sigma 08-25-2003, 09:11 AM Originally posted by blue27
Steve65, do you have some sort of time line as to your requests to have this site removed. They can't just pull a site because you sent them an email. They have to investigate. How can they know the content was stolen without looking into things?
Sounds like you are not familiar with the DMCA. Upon receiving a properly formatted DMCA notice, a host is required to suspend the content - the complainant then has all liability. If the site owner countermands, then they accept all liability. In either case, the host is free of liability - but if they receive a DMCA complaint and do not act on it, then the liability is with the host.
I am not a lawyer, although I know quite a few. Check with your own lawyer or at least an independent source before following my advice to the letter :)
Also, with respect to this particular incident, I cannot know if the complaint was submitted in a form suitable to the DMCA.
Kevin
iceishot.com 08-25-2003, 11:29 AM I am pretty sure that if you were registered in google one week and then dropped the next week, that if you hold on for a week or two you will see your site back in the index. I am assuming that this is a fairly new site and that this is the first time you ever saw it in the index.
As far as iPowerWeb goes... I have about 50 customers with them and haven't heard any complaints. I also have a site there, and haven't seen any problems. My wife had her site there for about a year, and I didn't see any problems for that period of time. I have never noticed a problem with the speed either. Perhaps that's because my site does not have a lot of graphics.
I think that if you don't need a lot of hand holding and, your site is not very big, that iPowerWeb is a good choice.
blue27 08-25-2003, 11:48 AM Originally posted by sigma
Sounds like you are not familiar with the DMCA. Upon receiving a properly formatted DMCA notice, a host is required to suspend the content - the complainant then has all liability. If the site owner countermands, then they accept all liability. In either case, the host is free of liability - but if they receive a DMCA complaint and do not act on it, then the liability is with the host.
I am not a lawyer, although I know quite a few. Check with your own lawyer or at least an independent source before following my advice to the letter :)
Also, with respect to this particular incident, I cannot know if the complaint was submitted in a form suitable to the DMCA.
Kevin
Can you point out to me where he said there was a properly formated DMCA complaint filed?
Reality Hosting 08-25-2003, 02:56 PM To put an end to the speculation debate
http://host34.ipowerweb.com/sysinfo/
yeah, that's a load of 145! :o
Reality Hosting 08-25-2003, 02:59 PM Well, it's down to 15 now...but it was 145 when I loaded it.
Website Rob 08-25-2003, 03:16 PM That tells the story more than anything. Regardless of how many sites are being hosted, if the Server is always under heavy load, then services will be slow.
After watching/refreshing the page for a few minutes, I actually seen the load go down to 15.00, but never under that! This is obviously a heavily used Server.
Some of their other servers are higher, and some are much lower.
They are overloaded, but with that same old "Not everyone will use all of the resources" view. Obviously on some servers people are.
JenniH 08-25-2003, 03:19 PM Hmmm... I nearly bought an account from them today.... glad I double checked on here first. I'll watch and wait.
Like I said, I admin a site on Server35 there - and the forums recently good a big speed boost. I don't know if they fixed anything, or just removed some customers, but things are a lot better lately. Only time will tell.
Reality Hosting 08-25-2003, 03:45 PM Think of Ipowerweb as the Russian Roulette of hosting :D
You have a chance of winning the bet!
Website Rob 08-25-2003, 04:00 PM Something else about http://host34.ipowerweb.com/sysinfo/
Am I only one who thinks:
Dev Received Sent Err/Drop
eth0 3.33 GB 555.35 MB 32768/0
Is not quite what it should be?
If it resets daily I could see it.
Aussie Bob 08-25-2003, 04:05 PM Originally posted by Reality Hosting
To put an end to the speculation debate
http://host34.ipowerweb.com/sysinfo/
yeah, that's a load of 145! :o
Well it is a Dual XEON with a big chunk of RAM and RAID5. It's not a bad server. Loads were a bit lower when I checked -
Load Averages - 10.95 7.36 8.60
Canonical Hostname 192.168.1.136
Listening IP 192.168.1.136
Kernel Version 2.4.18-19.8.0smp (SMP)
Uptime 4 days 23 hours 23 minutes
Current Users 0
Load Averages 192.63 191.07 187.13
http://host36.ipowerweb.com/sysinfo/
subsisting 09-28-2003, 12:16 AM Greetings,
I have used iPowerWeb for 2 years now without any major problems. They have reset their server about 2 times since I have been with them, but as long as you keep a backup of everything on your computer that is no problem.
The cPanel is very easy to use and has many good features for a variety of needs.
When I had first joined them I had a 200mb limit, but that automatically increased it to 500mb when they changed their policies. I can see in the future getting updated to 1gb+ as computers and bandwidth get cheaper.
Jon Harrison
Webmaster-Guru.com
oblivion2kX 09-28-2003, 01:08 AM Bottom line....Ipowerweb is for unaware people whoa re looking for hosting and 7 bucks seems cool..
Steve65 09-28-2003, 02:24 AM Hi Jon Harrison @ Webmaster-Guru.com
I see that you have crawled out of the rocks... I hope you're not stealing anybody else's content anymore... you should after all know better...
Steve
sharmaine 09-28-2003, 07:53 AM i am currently a client of www.*********** and i could say that their service is great. i am not sure of this but i guess they are a reseller of rackshack.net
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