We are currently looking to hire some Female Sales Staff members as we move closer towards launch early Septemter.

Requirements:

- Knowledge of technical terms related to the dedicated hosting and colocation industry
- Past experience in the dedicated hosting and colocation sector
- 4 to 6 hours of free time per day

Payment:

- To begin with it will be based on commissions payable by credit, bank transfer (internationally), cheque, papypal, other?

Training:

- Information packs will be provided which should provide you with all the information that you should need.
- You will be required to take a test in which you will have to sell our products to the NOC Admins.
- Other staff are always at hand to answer questions.

Please email your CV to noc@iracks.org or ask questions in this forum or in private message. All applications will be reviewed individually and all information gathered will be held in the strictest privacy,

Regards,

Adam Harris
NOC Admin
iRacks

May i ask why Female ?

Sexism I say! :D

Actually, there's a good chance that they have all ready imployed several men and are looking to balance their staff a bit. :)

Um I believe thats called discrimination fello good luck.

Well we already have setup quite a large staff team which is predominantly male. We will accept CV's from men as well should they be submitted and will be looked at in just as much interest as the female applications.

We are looking to expand our sales team prior to launch and felt a few female sales team members would balance the team out a bit,

Hopefully this will gain some interest :)

Regards,

Adam Harris
NOC Admin
iRacks

Discrimination, as the original posts say:

"All applications will be reviewed individually and all information gathered will be held in the strictest privacy,"

followed by:

"We will accept CV's from men as well should they be submitted and will be looked at in just as much interest as the female applications."

I'm afraid the original post came off slightly harsher than was meant, we are mainly looking to balance the team :)

Regards,

Adam Harris
NOC Admin
iRacks

isnt it ilegal to look for a specific gender??

Liam

No its not, if you are male; you may also apply, if your good you'll get the job too... we are not being discriminative with applications... we were just looking to balance the team,

Regards,

Adam Harris
NOC Admin
iRacks

in no way is it. atleast not in georgia. it is a right to hire, right to fire. i as the employer can look for whatever i want, as it is my company & not public domain

I also live in a right-to-hire state. However, that never stops anybody from submitting a civil suit. It's just always cheaper to not open yourself up to such opportunities.

I believe if your company is under 50 employees you are not held to the discrimination laws. I can't remember where I read that, but since you are a small business you can hire based on race, sex, religion, etc....

Discrimination Laws? I dont think that really applies in this situation.

IMHO, Females will find it easier to make sales as opposed to males. Simply becuase they are more polite in how they go about their ways (in most situations..)

Actually if you think about it he is helping himself avoide discrimination laws. His staff is already predominately male and he is looking to add females to his staff so he doesn't look like he is discrimination.

Come on gentlemen, you can look at it both ways. He has stated what he would like, so lets not bash him about it.

Yeah.. waay too many bored people cruising WHT and looking for things to nitpick about. It's almost like Slashdot or something. ;)

Brian

Originally posted by BrianKerr
Yeah.. waay too many bored people cruising WHT and looking for things to nitpick about. It's almost like Slashdot or something. ;)

Brian

WEBHOSTINGSLASH. COM LMAO!

Frankly, he can hire whom he wishes. It's his company, and it's not publicly traded... I find nothing wrong with his request.

When you're the one who decide who comes and who goes, you can deicde WHO of the WHO u want to come.:D :D :cool:

David K.

Indeed, its totally NOT illegal, its a UK-based company where we actually can hire & fire as we like, as long as we have a reason. His reason may be that female staff are better at selling things to the general public, or it may be that he feels they try harder. It could be any number of reasons, but as long as he can JUSTIFY himself, there is no problem as far as the government is concerned.

The Sex Discrimination Act in the UK forbids such advertisements as the one that started this thread:

http://www.ilo.org/public/english/employment/gems/eeo/law/uk/sda.htm

It is unlawful to advertise a job vacancy that gives the impression the job is only available to one sex.

http://www.eoc.org.uk/cseng/advice/recruitment_and_selection_-_questions.asp

The Sex Discrimination Act (SDA) makes unlawful any advertisement, which indicates or might reasonably be understood to indicate an intention to discriminate.

The caveat is that you are allowed to express special interest in under-represented groups, as is explained here: http://www.bcentral.co.uk/admin/people/legal/discriminationfaq/How_Does_Law_Tackle_Sex_Discimination_At_Work.asp

However, 'positive action' is legally allowed where certain groups that are under-represented in an organisation are particularly encouraged but no groups are excluded. This might include stating: "We welcome applications from women" on a job advertisement. However, from that point onwards all candidates must be judged on their individual merits.

I would think that specifically stating that you want only female candidates in the advertisement would be against the law, though, despite attempts to clear that up in more recent posts. I'd recommend editing your post, and fixing the wording, as well as the title, to prevent any possible civil discrimination suits.

There's some more good information here: http://www.womenandequalityunit.gov.uk/discrimination/discrimination_act.htm

read his post more carefully!
He advertises for females, but says that applications from males MAY be successful if they show the necessary qualities he's looking for.

Also the reason that he gives is indeed valid, he wants them because he feels that they better generate sales. This is PERMITTED under the sex discrimination act. For other instances where this occurs you can see in the RAF Regiment, where only men are permitted due to combat effectiveness.

Now stop flaming his post.

Why are you making a big deal?

The fact is when you walk into a victorias secret store you most likely find female sale representatives because its the appropriate thing. Why is this any different? Females working with females might be a good advertising techinique.

Originally posted by Joseph_M
read his post more carefully!

...

Now stop flaming his post.

Whoa, calm down. This is the first time I posted in this thread, and I did in fact read his post carefully. I was not intending to "flame" his post -- merely pointing out that the original post as posted could be interpreted as being illegal, and to prevent any possible lawsuits it might be wise to reword the title and the initial ad -- just trying to be helpful, not troll-like. I had a relative recently who ran into a very similar problem in France...the suit got tossed out of court, but he still had to deal with the hassle of going to court, and the fees involved. My apologies if trying to pass along some actual facts about discrimination and hiring law somehow offended you all.

This thread was bumped after a week of no response. If iShells is still looking for people he can start a new thread.