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coight
08-15-2003, 02:47 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6961525%255E15306,00.html

Out of interest I did a whois on one of the domains. Seems rackshack is hosting them :eek:

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=penis-tips.com

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=sapublishings.com

:eek:

Argious
08-15-2003, 03:10 AM
He paid associates to do the actual spamming and said a 15-year-old working from the United States earned $US500 ($750) a day.
:eek2:

"If you don't want to receive spam, don't connect to the internet, or don't have an email address."
:eek: I hope rackshack and the rest of the hosts close down on him. I hate spammers with a fiery passion. :angry:

null
08-15-2003, 03:13 AM
lol, i like last two links :D

123 Logo Design
08-15-2003, 04:48 AM
He probably has earned enough now to stop this. It's not because you have an internet connection and an email adress that you sign up to receive spam ... that's a nice joke ;)

TheDoctor
08-15-2003, 04:59 AM
does this mean it doesn't actually work ... not that I was going to try it you understand. :eek:

Aussie Bob
08-15-2003, 06:47 AM
From that article (http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6961525%255E15306,00.html) -
"If you don't want to receive spam, don't connect to the internet, or don't have an email address."
What an arrogant and ignorant moron. :angry:

blue27
08-15-2003, 06:55 AM
We should all drop by his house. After all, if you don't want visitors, don't have a house.

My eWriters
08-15-2003, 06:57 AM
lol, good point.

till
08-15-2003, 07:22 AM
So, is rackshack taking those sites down, or what?

TheDoctor
08-15-2003, 07:50 AM
Originally posted by blue27
We should all drop by his house. After all, if you don't want visitors, don't have a house.
Very good point .. :D

VH-Robert
08-15-2003, 07:54 AM
I've contacted RackShack's Abuse team on many occasions to report spam by a domain hosted on one of their servers, and they never handled the situation. Low and behold, a week later the spammer was back and still hosted on RackShack.

hostpath.com
08-15-2003, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by VeroHost
I've contacted RackShack's Abuse team on many occasions to report spam by a domain hosted on one of their servers, and they never handled the situation. Low and behold, a week later the spammer was back and still hosted on RackShack.

Is RS listed at SPEWS?

liquidknight
08-15-2003, 09:42 AM
shame on rackshack, i htought they'd be less idiotic then that. :(

VH-Robert
08-15-2003, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by hostpath.com
Is RS listed at SPEWS?

I'll send RS a few more emails with the same spammer (who just spammed a few seconds ago) and if it's not handled by the end of the next week, I'll drop SPEWS a email.

It seems RS rather make an extra buck a month and host a spammer, than help their reputation.

FHDave
08-15-2003, 09:54 AM
Oh that's great if I receive no more of this p**is enlargement thing ... :eek:

MDJ2000
08-15-2003, 09:55 AM
Remember that spammer in New York? Slashdot posted his address and thousands of people signed him up for tons of junk mail, he said he was going to sue for harassment. LOL, poetic justice, they should do the same to this guy.

Kerry Jones
08-15-2003, 09:59 AM
Why do spammers get the nerve to post junk mail. Do they open their mailbox and see all the junk mail they get as well as everybody else? IMO, I think these are very people that need to be put 40 feet below a prision where all the **** falls. That is how bad I hate these people, because I look forward to getting an e-mail from a girl I really like.

till
08-15-2003, 10:08 AM
Originally posted by Kerry Jones
Why do spammers get the nerve to post junk mail. Do they open their mailbox and see all the junk mail they get as well as everybody else? IMO, I think these are very people that need to be put 40 feet below a prision where all the **** falls. That is how bad I hate these people, because I look forward to getting an e-mail from a girl I really like.

Haha. That cracked me up.

I recieved the email already. :D Funny thing, popfile classified it as personal at first, then work related and her third answer became spam.

Coach
08-15-2003, 10:16 AM
I've sent them a detailed email. I've never had then *not* react to a message, so hopefully with all the info I sent, they will shut these guys down.

hostpath.com
08-15-2003, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Kerry Jones
Why do spammers get the nerve to post junk mail.

Because they make lots and lots and LOTS of money doing it.

Kerry Jones
08-15-2003, 11:44 AM
Well I still think they deserve life in prision.

SimonMc
08-15-2003, 12:39 PM
Spam is not a problem at all!

It is the mindless half wits that buy things from a spam email that makes it a problem.

All these self appointed vigilante spam groups are just self important upstarts who like wielding a bit of power. The real problem.....peoples GREED needs to be addressed. Educate the uneducated...that is the solution...and the ONLY solution!

No business through spam = No Spam. Really simple economics.

Simon

TheDoctor
08-15-2003, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by SimonMc
Spam is not a problem at all!

It is the mindless half wits that buy things from a spam email that makes it a problem.

All these self appointed vigilante spam groups are just self important upstarts who like wielding a bit of power. The real problem.....peoples GREED needs to be addressed. Educate the uneducated...that is the solution...and the ONLY solution!

No business through spam = No Spam. Really simple economics.

Simon
If you didn't have "mindless half wits" half the business's in the world would have to closed down, which on reflection brobably wouldn't be all that bad. ..... impulse buyers.

Doc

SimonMc
08-15-2003, 01:11 PM
Originally posted by TheDoctor
If you didn't have "mindless half wits" half the business's in the world would have to closed down, which on reflection brobably wouldn't be all that bad. ..... impulse buyers.

Doc

Thats the beauty of the spammers model. The problem can not be overcome because people will always buy from spam email.

People have never been educated not to buy from spam email. Go onto MSNs website. Where is the Don't buy from Spammers notice. Go onto AOLs web site. Where is the don't buy from spammers notice? Go onto Yahoo. Where is the Don't buy from spammers notice. The truth is...nobody is really that interested in solving the problem it self. Education!

Simon

TheDoctor
08-15-2003, 01:41 PM
Yes Simon I am inclined to agree. ..

I probably have a different point of view from most of the members here. Most members are in the internet Industry and therefore need to make money from it. Whilst I am involved with computer manufacture. I am not directly associated with the internet and have never made a cent from the internet. Apart from webhosting and software I wish there was NO selling on the Internet. The Internet has developed into a large money machine nobody wants to do anything on the net unless there is money involved. (not all but a large majority)

What happened to enjoying the experience of meeting people and experiencing new technologies WITHOUT the holy dollar. :unhappy:

Doc

Hiccups
08-15-2003, 04:16 PM
The problem with that (no selling on the Internet) is that if nobody was selling anything, then selling web hosting wouldn't work out too well either.

Most sites other than personal sites are selling something, even if it's only advertising rather than actual products. And advertising is usually for places that are selling something.

I think the Internet would be a pretty boring place if the only sites that were there were sites done by people who could pay for them out of their pocket with no income generated from having the site.

AdY
08-15-2003, 06:43 PM
SPAM is all over. Why should we even bother? :eek:

akashik
08-15-2003, 07:06 PM
Because if no-one bothered at all then your inbox would have around 1000 times as much junkmail in it as it does now.

SimonMc
08-16-2003, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by Hiccups
The problem with that (no selling on the Internet) is that if nobody was selling anything, then selling web hosting wouldn't work out too well either.

Most sites other than personal sites are selling something, even if it's only advertising rather than actual products. And advertising is usually for places that are selling something.

I think the Internet would be a pretty boring place if the only sites that were there were sites done by people who could pay for them out of their pocket with no income generated from having the site.

Selling on the internet is great. Why not. It is a perfect medium that levels the playingfield the world over. I for one love it.

Selling is not the problem. As I have said before it is educting people not to buy from spam emails that is the problem. I would like to see all the big sites take a responsible attitude and have a Just say no to spam campaign. It may work...it may not...but to do nothing about the problem is not an option. Or should not be an option. Educate the uneducated. Forget about SPEWS and the like....they are just nursing the dressing....nothing more. The real problem is people are buying from spam. Stop that....the spam stops. So So So easy on paper! The reality is harder...but there is nobody anywhere adressing the real problem!

Simon

microsol
08-16-2003, 06:53 AM
We should break his knees....
If you don't want broken knees then don't spam......
LOL

blue27
08-16-2003, 06:54 AM
Originally posted by AdY
SPAM is all over. Why should we even bother? :eek:

Thieves are all around as well, but you still bother to lock you house or report a theft don't you?

till
08-16-2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by AdY
SPAM is all over. Why should we even bother? :eek:

Cause they are wasting my resources (time, bandwidth) and don't pay for it.

chrisranjana
08-16-2003, 07:18 AM
A NEW ZEALANDER has been revealed as one of the major global senders of internet spam offering penis enlargement.

so is that it ? what is going to happen to him ? will he be arrested ? will his spam activities be stopped ?

Pipson
08-16-2003, 08:21 AM
I hate spam but that kid was lucky lol $500 a day.

Pipson

kohashi
08-16-2003, 08:50 AM
Spam is relatively easy to combat. Just create a personal address and only give it out via word of mouth/instant messages. Dont post it anywhere that it can be harvested. Dont sign up for things using it. That way they cannot harvest what they dont know exists.... unless someone you trust gives it away.

But for business when you need to publically distribute an email.... that is when spam is a problem. I also think spammers should get that life time in prison. Boy would I love to visit one of their houses and get to 'send' things at their house by the thousands..... maybe rocks? Same "dont have have a house if you dont want things thrown at it" logic (a bit changed from whoever said that earlier.

Aplusmedia
08-17-2003, 04:30 AM
http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6961525%255E15306,00.html

Now you know where those body part enlargement pills come from :D

RajanUrs
08-17-2003, 04:36 AM
spam king needs some pills to expand his brains

Selpaw
08-17-2003, 05:04 AM
er... Robert has already posted this... heh

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=176089

Mrdredd
08-17-2003, 06:58 AM
Originally posted by blue27
We should all drop by his house. After all, if you don't want visitors, don't have a house.
LOL that was very funny indeed!

Mrdredd
08-17-2003, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by hostpath.com
Because they make lots and lots and LOTS of money doing it.

Can you explain how it works?
What is the acutal profit generating part?

People actually click the links?

blue27
08-17-2003, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by Mrdredd
Can you explain how it works?
What is the acutal profit generating part?

People actually click the links?

It depends on the spam. Some of them are affiliate links in which case the spammer would recieve a percentage of a sale. Some of the spammers are direct sellers and are counting on shear volume. If they send 10.000.000 emails and only one quarter of one percent of the people respond, that is still a lot of sales.

akashik
08-17-2003, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by kohashi
But for business when you need to publically distribute an email.... that is when spam is a problem.

That's the bit that irritates me. While our domain uses a catch-all, most of the junk comes to the support address. Over the past three years we've canned a few spammers, and you guessed it, the junkmail increases right about the same time as they get a boot in the backside. :rolleyes:

They're a filthy species.

Shannara
08-17-2003, 09:05 PM
I donno, I would love it if the government legalized slow torture of spammers for life.. I would be one of the first to sign up.. I can see it now... take hot iron and slowly insert it into his eyes....... Of course he deserves more torture then that.. after all, don't want him to die too soon :P