You can see it at http://freshmeat.net/projects/webhostbilling/

Note: Please do not upload this to one of your accounts and run it from there. It is meant to be run on a personal computer, that has port 80 firewalled off from the outside.

I saw that too the other day .. but I still think modernbill.com looks more promissing.

modernbill is not free... but very attractive indeed... :)

Originally posted by kunal
modernbill is not free... but very attractive indeed... :)


Just curious as to why the modembill option is preferred.
I'm still working on my system and can pretty much code any additional
things that anyone thinks is needed. I've just gotten all the features
in it that I need at the moment and can't think of any more to add.

CBMS is probably one of the best free open-source billing software. The only drawback is that it doesn't support credit card processing. Other than that... the script is close to perfect.

CBMS?

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a billing program that would be suitable for resellers.

The script would need to allow the reseller to go into the program and add customer details, price, billing date and billing cycle. Also have email reminders go to their customers and have invoices generated.

I feel that this would be an invaluable service to resellers and would keep them on the reseller programs longer because they'd rely more on your reseller program instead of getting a cheaper dedicated server. The billing program wouldn't have to be integrated into our billing system though. We use Alabanza anyway.

Any suggestions on this simple billing system?

Cheers,
Nigel

Originally posted by venomx
CBMS?

Try http://beta.voxel.net/projects/cbms

Juan

Thank you!

hmmm in CBMS

"Create initial admin user through usermgmt.php(Typical admin access level is 3)."

So anyone can goto ww.domain.com/whatever/usermgmt.php and do this if they know you have this?

The instructions are a bit backwards. You need to modify the php files before going to usermgmt.php.

The other point is that the mysql.dump file needs to be put into your mysql database. It took me a couple of minutes to realise how to do this so I thought I'd mention it for others.

Once it's all set up, you can't access usermgmt.php without first logging in as level 4 +

The levels were a bit confusing to me a first but it's noted on their site with the features. Another thing I missed as well.

I've got it all going on my system in about 20 minutes. It's an excellent system is exactly what I was looking for, for my resellers. Now they will be able to enjoy automated billing.

Cheers,
Nigel

venomx,

If I'm not wrong it only prompts you to setup an admin user the first time. Alternatively, you could also manually add the mysql entry in.

Hope this helps :)

Regards,
ck

CBMS is extremely insecure. Yes, it is a good billing solution, but the cons outweigh the pros. If you were a member of the CBMS mailing list you would realize that this script is FAR from perfect.

I agree with that ... if you see it from security stand point .. yes .. it's very insecure. Unless if you install it in a private server that is isolated behind a firewall and not make it publicly accessible.

Is there a secure way thats free? ;p

Originally posted by kunal
modernbill is not free... but very attractive indeed... :)

Perhaps it can be made to plug into CPanel/WHM? That would be a great addition. :)

true .. hehehehe.. :) .. it seems like the FREE and SECURE doesn't go together.. hehehehe

Make your own application is the only options... hehe..

Originally posted by drhonk
true .. hehehehe.. :) .. it seems like the FREE and SECURE doesn't go together..


not true.. there are times, when open source stuff is more secure then paid ones.. take linux and windows for an example ;)

I seen this billing software at the local computer store for $40... Maybe Ill just buy it heh

Billing software in a box? Umm... are you sure you're following along with this thread?

Since CBMS is insecure. Any the others are pay for types why not just buy it from a local store? From what I read on the box it does everything CBMS does but from my home computer but it doesnt allow my customers to login and check their info :/

Ot I may wait and see how the billing is worked out in the new CPanel/WHM when its released.

I can't believe you'd say that. CBMS is probably more secure than any other billing software that you'd buy.

I think it's an excellent package for smaller businesses who have a small number of customers. I'm going to be buddling it with my reseller package because it's one thing all reseller packages lack, a billing system for the smaller guys.

Cheers,
Nigel

Whoa! I am just taking the word of drhonk and mikeknoxv.

Nigel,
Are you a subscriber of the CBMS mailing list? Maybe you should subscribe yourself. The developers have attempted to
correct problems that have come up, but it is still an insecure product. Honestly, if you care at all about security (and you should), you're making a bad decision in using CBMS.

I am not discrediting the functionality of CBMS. CBMS functions great!

venomx,
I would suggest looking into ModernBill at www.modernbill.com

Looks good. Too bad I dont have an Authorize.net account.

Originally posted by kunal
modernbill is not free... but very attractive indeed... :)

This does not look very good to me at all. You get a lot of possibilities to click on but at the end you get always the same information to see. What is this all about with these select fields and that stuff? I mean you can't seriously just select some names to some registered domains? Credit Card numbers are saved in the DB, not a really good one, isn't it? What for should i want to run a whois about a domain which is registered with me as a hosting provider (i have all data in the db already because it's me (you) who is hosting that domain - or not? I personally feel these guys just saw those fancy functions and features but i don't think they really thought about the hosting business and the needs which goes with that - i might be wrong of course. :)

I thought the same thing. I went through the demo spending a while testing it out. Probably about 20 minutes to try and get a good feel of it and just couldn't work the thing out. I went round in circles trying to find information and trying to do stuff.

I installed cbms which took about 20 minutes and then I started testing it. About 20 minutes later, I had a good feel for the system and thought that it was exactly what I was after for my resellers.

I'm on their email list but haven't heard anything yet. Hopefully they get all the security issues sorted out before I release it for you to my resellers.

Cheers,
Nigel

Seems like you guys are trying to find a solution to help manage your business needs. I would strongly look at a product called Optigold ISP. I've been using it for over 2 years and its by far the best. It has everything you would even ask for with even more than you can learn from. goto http://www.optigold.com. Try out the demo, and the features list is ENDLESS. Its not free. but if your planning on growing and have over 1000 clients. Spending money on your billing system is a good idea, the free stuff doesn't offer what you can pay for. THis is a true solution. I mean, there are companies that spend over 500,000 for the ugly, most hard to use billing systems. But the good thing is, it runs the business and and brings in the money for them. Also, Optigold ISP has the AuthorizeNet plugin, which I LOVE so much...

Is Optigold ISP for linux/unix systems?

Originally posted by Nigel
...go into the program and add customer details, price, billing date and billing cycle. Also have email reminders go to their customers and have invoices generated. ...

We currently use Ubersmith (http://ubersmith.com )
and it does everything you just requested, and MUCH more.

From http://ubersmith.com/ubersmith-index.php?section=ubersmith-faq.php
How much does the system cost?
Ubersmith is free to small, startup web hosts with less than 30 packages.
For commercial pricing information, please refer to our licensing page.

Is this accurate, or just a remnant of an un-updated page?

Also.. I am looking at the beta for QuickBooks 2002. Yowza. Full integration with Excel, Access and Outlook. Website ntegration providing real time access by customers online to their bills and order status (via SQL including MySQL!). Automatic recurring biling feature via E-mail.

I'll try and build a beta site with the beta software :eek: and see if you guys can break it...

~slips

Originally posted by mikeknoxv
Nigel,
Are you a subscriber of the CBMS mailing list? Maybe you should subscribe yourself. The developers have attempted to
correct problems that have come up, but it is still an insecure product. Honestly, if you care at all about security (and you should), you're making a bad decision in using CBMS.


What exactly needs to be secure about a script that sends statements only? It doesn't store credit cards. If someone wants to keep private how much they pay for hosting, they don't have much in their life to worry about.

Yes, it is accurate. We offer Ubersmith with no monthly fee to smaller hosts.

Cheers,

Raj Dutt
Voxel dot Net

Originally posted by chintz
From http://ubersmith.com/ubersmith-index.php?section=ubersmith-faq.php


Is this accurate, or just a remnant of an un-updated page?

Also.. I am looking at the beta for QuickBooks 2002. Yowza. Full integration with Excel, Access and Outlook. Website ntegration providing real time access by customers online to their bills and order status (via SQL including MySQL!). Automatic recurring biling feature via E-mail.

I'll try and build a beta site with the beta software :eek: and see if you guys can break it...

~slips

Hi:

I've only been here for a few days, but billing software seems to be one of the most talked about issues on the boards. I'm wondering if, maybe the Mods may want to put up a comparison poll or such? Is there such an article that list programs/scripts and features? :idea:

sPoT!

We use Ubersmith for our billing www.ubersmith.com and it is a life saver. Tech support is beyond excellent and voxel has been very repsonsive with any features that we might want in the system. Overall I have had an EXCELLENT experience working with voxel/ubersmith. :D :D :D

I've just seen GCDB billing system. Seems to be very complete application, built on PHP+MySQL. Have anybody tried it?

This is the URL for download:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gcdb/

Thanks everybody!!

Yes, it is accurate. We offer Ubersmith with no monthly fee to smaller hosts.

I left info for contact but never recieved a reply:confused:. Do I have to talk to you, or enter my info again on your form?

Is there any easy to use free support ticket system.

:)

ok so where can i get the free service?