Can any web designer give me an estimate for a site similiar to addr.com?

I am more interested in the side menu on the left and the horizontal menu to top. (How much do you charge for this alone?)

I've PMed you.

What you are not going share it with the rest of us? J/K. :smokin:

Dear Sir,

I would be very much interested to do this job. Please visit http://www.talash.net for more info on us. I have also PMed you :)

Regards
Abhishek

We are interested in working with you and have Sent you an email. Looking forward to your responce.

I've emailed you

The top and side menus shouldn't be that hard to do. They're basic rollovers.

I can do that for 25$ (the whole menu)

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Haha..sorry.. I really upset some people here.. it was jsut a joke.
25$ is even less then working at MCDonalds...
Webdesign is not jsut some work.. It have top be done right.. and will cost alot more than 25$ :rolleyes:
I am sorry that I was joking! :(
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Dear Mr. Jordy Houtman,

I feel it is very inappropriate to post your price quote here. And from the look of the low price, I can safely say that you have definately not been in the web design business before. You probably have not made much money (from webdesign), so you think $25 is a very reasonable offer. But I am sure this price will offend many -professional- webdesigners who have years of experience. You also have poor judgement of what a webdesign (especially ADDR.com) is worth.

The bottom line is that your measly amount of money for designing and your public offer is enough to tick off any real web designer. Please PM next time and study the values of webdesign. If you're just trying to make an easy $25, please apply for a job at your local McDonalds. Please PM or E-mail me if you'd like to flame or professionally discuss about this.

Regards

WHAHAAH lol.. sdorry man.. i was jsut joking..

I kwo that some nuice sites easally costs 10.000 dollars..
I was jokling.. I will remove the post!!!.. ahhah

If I really should do that.. then I am really stupd whaha :D

sorry to upset you!...

I actually don't know prices apart.. most of all .. I am getting paid to make WHOLE sites.. or flash intro's ......

Maybe you could post some reasonable prices for things apart...
It will help lots of people...

(btw.. need designer?)

So 25$ is too low huh...

I guess gitaarwerk.net was a little unprofessional to do that.
So whats the standard designers should charge for that? It sounds kind of egotistical to say that price is too low. I mean, what if you're new to the web design game? Is it discouraged to offer competitive prices?

lol gitaarwerk.net :stickout

Regards

Yhea.. I already said it!.. IT WAS A JOKE!.. ok?

Hmm, I don't think that it's wrong for newcomers to web design to offer low rates - if we all came straight in charging top dollar for our first site we'd never get a job - but the point is that many people do web design for a living and being undercut by 'newbies' who will get chosen on price not quality damages their earnings.

I'm not saying this as a flame against gitaarwerk.net (though perhaps make your next joke a little more obvious ;) ), I'm just agreeing that it's to some extent unfair to those trying to make a serious living out of web design rather than doing it for a bit of extra money on the side of school/another job.

Web design (and development) as a creative medium (you need to be creative in development to come up with the best code) means that it is a valuable resource and good design deserves good money.

I realise I'm writing this at the risk of annoying a few people but for good designs you should expect to pay more. Unfortunately there are many people who ask for top quality designs and offer little cash or just ad space. If all designers end up having to charge $50-200 a site who would want to take it up as a profession? People would just go into print media and very few good looking sites would appear. That's a drastic scenario, but not that unlikely.

Anyway, rant over - I'll probably wish I hadn't said this later on but oh well ;)

As an experienced webdesigner, I can tell you a site like that would cost about $6,500-$10,000. However addr.com's site is ugly and lacks any sort of color coordination whatesoever.

I disagree, I think the color coordination is very good on addr.com. They have mostly greens and blues with a few purple and orange accents. No red, yellow, pink, etc. Y'know? I think it's a very attractive site, all in all.

I totally understand what you're saying Barak. Web design is a serious profession, and it would be ridiculous for newbies to take away business based on price alone. Yet, I sympathize (sp?) with gitaarwerk.net. I mean, just because they're newbies, does not mean they don't have skills... Anyways, I felt that Designuser was too harsh with his flame. Also, not all customers are dumb. :stickout Although some people will go for price over quality, there are also many many people that know what they're paying for and will go with professional web design companies to ensure their purchase. I just think there are buyers that just want a simple homepage for low prices and professionals that need a good site for business. Anyways, thats my opinion. No flames ;) Anyone thats interested in a design, PM me...

Barak makes a good point, but I don't totally agree. He is almost saying that webdesign is reserved for professionals who charge high prices to make a living. Others who just want some cash aren't allowed.

I happen to be one of the people that just wants some extra cash on the side. I don't charge outrageously low prices like $25 for a site like addr.com, not even close, but I should not be criticized for offering lower prices in a field where everyone is (or at least should be) welcome.

As for Barkak's creativity comment: I (or another freelancer) can be just as creative as a professional designer, but the difference is that for me, webdesign is a hobby, a few extra bucks, not something I do every waking hour. I do the same job as a pro, only I have no consequences if I don't get enough jobs, or enough money, and as such, I charge less.

I don't mean to offend anyone, but I wouldn't fee a hint of remorse if I were to get a webdesign job instead of a professional because I offer lower prices.

I'm not looking for people to agree with me, or trolling for angry responses, just giving my thoughts.

You and I share similar thoughts Relyc :)

Barak did have a point though when he said lower prices drive people away from "professionals". But you need to take into mind that every customer's different.

Just as a point, guitaarwerk said 25 for a menu... not the whole freaking site. :stickout

He was also joking, remember.

Asia,

Have you located a designer yet?

If not, I can help: www.caiminjones.com

WingZero/Relyc: I knew something in that post would get misunderstood, hence the comment at the end about probably regretting it later ;)

I'm not saying that people who do web design for a bit of money on the side shouldn't offer lower prices or that they are less skilled. I myself only do web design part time (I'm developer on a messageboard script full time) and, trying not to sound too cocky, I believe I'm better than a lot of the "professional" design agencies that I've seen around.

I'm not saying that because you work for a company rather than freelance you're suddenly worth more money, but that people who undercut normal pricing by so much because they're only doing one or two sites on the side can damage the web design industry.

As with Relyc, I'd love to win design deals over professional agencies, preferrably for my skills but if the price gets it, fine. What I disagree with is charging extremely low prices just to get jobs.

"Price wars" happen in many industries and they usually result in inferior products and many companies going bust. The big corporates will always pay the big money, but for SMEs who find they can ask the kid down the street to do a site for a tenner rather than pay a few hundred to a thousand to a more established designer/agency it starts to hit the small designers rather than reduce the price of the big guys.

Hmm, I'm probably repeating myself by now so I'll stop :)

Originally posted by Barak


I'm not saying this as a flame against gitaarwerk.net (though perhaps make your next joke a little more obvious ;) ), I'm just agreeing that it's to some extent unfair to those trying to make a serious living out of web design rather than doing it for a bit of extra money on the side of school/another job.


I agree.. it is unfair!!.. if I weren't joking.. I am a starter(not in desining).. but THAT cheap... ofcourse not! :D

but don't mention me anymore.. It is not interesting..I was joking.. And sure.. If I am really doing it for that price.. It wouldn't have posted it here.. then I PM-ed ofcourse.. because it is certainly inapropiate

tnx..

http://addr.com/ is a beautiful site ...everything is fine except the download time. In a business like webhosting , that is very important.
I guess I would charge US $200 for the template and then
US $49 per page

thanks

Hello! I am also looking for a quote on a design along the lines of addr.com, or even a scaled-down version of addr.com.

Mike,

You can see my portfolio at: www.caiminjones.com

Feel free to email / PM me for a quote.

Thanks.

Dear Sir,

We have sent you an email with our quotation.

Let us know please your decision.

Nikoletta

Vox Unity Support Officer
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