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webbcite
08-06-2001, 06:05 PM
I just noticed that the rackshack.net site is now showing 300GB/month transfer for the $99.00. Apparently they were not getting enough new customers with the increase to 170MB...

What is the deal?...anyone know?

wht
08-06-2001, 06:08 PM
WHAT!!! WHAT!!! WHAT!!!!!!!!!!

I can't believe it! Will they offer the same bandwidth to existing customers???? sad...

Honu
08-06-2001, 06:09 PM
Aloha

hmmm hope they give it to there existing customers

man that is a lot for $99
they are playing odds for sure
hope they can continue at this
and do not start trying to kick people off for other stuff
all photos etc... or graphics heavy sites etc...

considering a rack can maybe just handle this anyway should not be a problem

webbcite
08-06-2001, 06:11 PM
Could be a scramble to keep afloat...volume...volume...volume...

Make you wonder how stable they are.

Honu
08-06-2001, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by webbcite
Could be a scramble to keep afloat...volume...volume...volume...

Make you wonder how stable they are.

Aloha
yeah very good point
I wonder to as they are suposed redoing or expanding there facility
or maybe they are just going to get really slow by punching everybody through the same pipes ???
would be good to do some testing ;)

Michael-MS
08-06-2001, 07:51 PM
The 300 GB limit is for all customers.

To verify, just login to member services and go to bandwidth monitoring. There will be a line that says:

Your Monthly Bandwidth Quota is: 300 Gb

RackShack is a part of Ev1 which probably doesn't have many bandwidth restrictions, so let's hope that they keep making profit and expand their capacity.

HostRat
08-06-2001, 09:24 PM
I have a couple of RAQS with RAQ shack and am about to purchase another, 300 GIGs is loads and a RAQ would conk out if you were shifting that a mount.

Keeg
08-06-2001, 10:07 PM
i have no idea why people think a cobalt raq cant handle volumes in the 300 gig range , but they easily can. i have seen raqs using 8 megs a second for the entire month thats 2.5 terabytes in a month and the raq ran fine.

As far as rackshacks offer goes, its pretty kickass! i dont think on a straight hosting model it can possibly work however considering their parent company ev1 is a DSL provider i can see how it works and it is a great idea, essentially if your core business is outbound traffic (DSL) then all the inbound (rackshack) traffic doesnt cost you a cent more hence everything paid to them covers support and hardware. As long as your inbound traffic exceeds your outbound you can charge whatever you like and its not going to cost you any more.

Steve

Reg
08-06-2001, 11:38 PM
i dont think on a straight hosting model it can possibly work however considering their parent company ev1 is a DSL provider i can see how it works and it is a great idea, essentially if your core business is outbound traffic (DSL) then all the inbound (rackshack) traffic doesnt cost you a cent more hence everything paid to them covers support and hardware. As long as your inbound traffic exceeds your outbound you can charge whatever you like and its not going to cost you any more.

Not to mention that with Northpoint going bankrupt and EV1 expanding their DS3 pipes, they have extra bandwidth that is already paid for. My guess is that EV1 has all this extra paid for bandwidth and nothing to do with it. So they are giving it to their RaQ customers. I'm happy :)

Honu
08-07-2001, 12:40 AM
Aloha

any one think they will pull back in the future to less bandwith ???

Reg
08-07-2001, 01:17 AM
Depends on if they start back offering DSL again. If they do, the bandwidth might drop back to 200 or 150 GB. As for where Rackshack/EV1 is sitting now, they have multiple DS3 lines, which are designed for DSL connections, that are being only used for dialup internet on the download end and Rackshack on the upload end. Since the bandwidth is already paid for (namely because they own the lines and are their own ISP), they can do one of two things. One, give it away like they are doing now, or two, pull back on bandwidth and sell the remaining. All and all, EV1 has been offering over 100GB ever since they first started selling RaQ's a few years ago. Even though Rackshack is handling the RaQs now, I don't think that the bandwidth will ever drop below 100.

SI-Chris
08-07-2001, 02:42 AM
Originally posted by webbcite
Could be a scramble to keep afloat...volume...volume...volume...

Make you wonder how stable they are.

Yes, mentally as well as financially.

avara
08-07-2001, 06:29 AM
Originally posted by webbcite
I just noticed that the rackshack.net site is now showing 300MB/month transfer for the $99.00. Apparently they were not getting enough new customers with the increase to 170MB...

What is the deal?...anyone know?

You gave me quite a shock there, because 300MB/month is not a lot. Luckily I discovered it's 300GB, not MB. Phew. And next time, don't frigthen me like that. Please.

AussieHosts
08-07-2001, 09:12 AM
I don't follow their offer...front page says 300GB/$99/mth. The compare page says 175GB per month (though the update date is a bit behind on that). But the Value Special is the same thing for $140/mth.

Has anyone gotten onto one of these?

Gary

wht
08-07-2001, 10:35 AM
I love rackshack's free bandwidth upgrade for all customers. Hope they keep doing this whenever they have faster network connections.

webbcite
08-07-2001, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by avara


You gave me quite a shock there, because 300MB/month is not a lot. Luckily I discovered it's 300GB, not MB. Phew. And next time, don't frigthen me like that. Please.

My fault, that should definitely be GB not MB...

UmBillyCord
08-07-2001, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by webbcite
Could be a scramble to keep afloat...volume...volume...volume...

Make you wonder how stable they are.

Could be they bought 700 RAQ's and with so much compitiion, they are just sitting there getting old.

essentially if your core business is outbound traffic (DSL) then all the inbound (rackshack) traffic doesnt cost you a cent more hence everything paid to them covers support and hardware.

Steve,

Correct me if I am wrong, but DSL traffic and Server traffic (for the most part) are both pull. If they offer DSL and Servers on the same pipes, then the outgoing traffic will be more then just straight server traffic.

Michael-MS
08-07-2001, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by UmBillyCord

Could be they bought 700 RAQ's and with so much compitiion, they are just sitting there getting old.


I really don't think they bought another 700 raqs considering they don't have the colo space to put them in right now. But maybe they're trying to expand the colo and need some $250 setup fees to help pay for it. :D

Originally posted by UmBillyCord

Correct me if I am wrong, but DSL traffic and Server traffic (for the most part) are both pull. If they offer DSL and Servers on the same pipes, then the outgoing traffic will be more then just straight server traffic.

DSL users mostly download information (meaning rackshack receives the bandwidth - incoming)

Rackshack servers mostly upload information (sending files - outgoing).

That's my understanding of what Steve was saying.

UmBillyCord
08-07-2001, 12:53 PM
I really don't think they bought another 700 raqs considering they don't have the colo space to put them in right now.

I am talking about January's shipment. :)

The DSL is interesting to me. It would seem that even if one is push and the other is pull, the pipe would still fill either way regardless of which way it is going.

300 GB's of bandwidth. Almost 1 MB of sustained traffic. Unbelievable deal.

Reg
08-07-2001, 03:22 PM
I don't follow their offer...front page says 300GB/$99/mth. The compare page says 175GB per month (though the update date is a bit behind on that). But the Value Special is the same thing for $140/mth.

If you notice, the one that's for $140 gives you 24/7 support with emails from technical support in case something happens.

AussieHosts
08-07-2001, 06:33 PM
Reg, I think you'll find it has already been established that there's not 24/7 physical monitoring (I hope I got that right). In which case I read the "24/7 monitoring with email alerts" to be the RaQ's own inbuilt system status system and its inbuild email alerts.

Could be wrong though. But that's the way I read it.

Gary

webbcite
08-07-2001, 06:37 PM
The RAQ doesn't really have 24/7 monitoring for down situations...if your RAQ goes down, it won't be able to send you an email...

I believe they have some other service that pings the server and if it doesn't get a reponse it will send you an email.

Scott

AussieHosts
08-07-2001, 07:00 PM
Thanks Scott. Yeah, I was referrig to the email alerts it sends out when the Active Monitor reacts to Disk Usage, etc.

Point therefore being, if that's all this is and there's isn't any physical monitoring, why is the Value Package $40 more?

It's no big deal. :-)

Gary

Reg
08-07-2001, 07:40 PM
No no no, not support from the RaQ itself. What happens is if you get the value package, they place your RaQ in the EV1 datacenter where there are technical support staff on hand at the colo 24/7. The staff activily monitors your server and will email you when something comes up. If you need something such as rebooting or similar, they do it as soon as you ask since they are there. In the Rackshack.net colo, technical staff are not on hand. If something goes wrong, someone has to travel about 1.5 miles to the colo.

AussieHosts
08-07-2001, 07:49 PM
I wasn't sure, so thanks for clearing that up Reg.

Gary

Honu
08-07-2001, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by Reg
No no no, not support from the RaQ itself. What happens is if you get the value package, they place your RaQ in the EV1 datacenter where there are technical support staff on hand at the colo 24/7. The staff activily monitors your server and will email you when something comes up. If you need something such as rebooting or similar, they do it as soon as you ask since they are there. In the Rackshack.net colo, technical staff are not on hand. If something goes wrong, someone has to travel about 1.5 miles to the colo.

Aloha
curious if ya know if they have the same lines then at there ev1 facility as they do at there location center
also at hand 24/7 but do they actually reboot asap like within minutes or does it still take a long time ??

Reg
08-07-2001, 09:45 PM
From what I know, the lines are ran from the EV1 datacenter to the Rackshack colo which is about 1.5 miles away. So yes they are the same lines. As for the support, I'm unsure. I don't pay for the extra support, but from what my friend says, they reboot his RaQ within minutes.

brandonk
08-08-2001, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Reg
From what I know, the lines are ran from the EV1 datacenter to the Rackshack colo which is about 1.5 miles away. So yes they are the same lines. As for the support, I'm unsure. I don't pay for the extra support, but from what my friend says, they reboot his RaQ within minutes.

I was told that the "colocation center" was a 15 minute drive from the tech support building. So not sure how it's only 1.5 miles away. Hmm.. maybe they ride their bikes. :D

berlin
08-08-2001, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by HostRat
I have a couple of RAQS with RAQ shack and am about to purchase another, 300 GIGs is loads and a RAQ would conk out if you were shifting that a mount.

Hi,

Is it for one domain? And how do you balance your load. I'm trying set up 1 raq for my free web based email program. And if I need more space, I will purchase another raq from rackshack. But how do I balance my load?

Thanks.

Honu
08-08-2001, 02:34 AM
Originally posted by berlin


Hi,

Is it for one domain? And how do you balance your load. I'm trying set up 1 raq for my free web based email program. And if I need more space, I will purchase another raq from rackshack. But how do I balance my load?

Thanks.
Aloha
I do not think they are setup to do that
you would have to write something to split the files off
before I would do that I would get a regular unix box from efreeservers or something with a lot of SCSI space
just my thoughts