Hi,

I would like to know...
1) What's the cheapest price for .co.uk domains in ENOM Retail Account?

2) Anyone over here has a cheap price in ENOM for registering .co.uk domains?

3) Can ENOM Retail Account be paid by PayPal when registering domains?

4) Where or which sites can I registered .co.uk domains & pay by PayPal at the cheapest rate?

5) Anyone can setup an ENOM Retail Account for me FREE? I wanted to use it for registering .co.uk domains. Preferably the cheapest prices for registering .co.uk domains you can offer.

Thanks!!! ;)

If you're looking to register .co.uk's forget the likes of enom and look at 1-2-3-reg.co.uk and ukreg.com.

Try in Related Offers and Requests, you will get good offers...

If you are not based in UK you have to be careful when dealing with UK domain registrars because a lot of them are totally unable to grasp the fact that they shouldn't charge VAT to customers overseas. Consequently you end up paying a British tax which you can never reclaim. This is one reason why I stopped dealing with them.

Originally posted by Melitaweb
If you are not based in UK you have to be careful when dealing with UK domain registrars because a lot of them are totally unable to grasp the fact that they shouldn't charge VAT to customers overseas. Consequently you end up paying a British tax which you can never reclaim. This is one reason why I stopped dealing with them.

You really need to grasp YOUR facts.
It was a ruling of the Customs and Excise of the UK that all UK domains are deemed to be supplied in the UK and therefore must attract VAT no matter where you live.

Even if you have a USA company buying direct from Nominet and reselling on the initial charge to the USA company will include VAT just you do not see it.


http://www.nominet.org.uk/RegisteringYourDomainName/RegistrationFees/

I ran a business in UK for 8 years. I am already well aware of the facts thankyou. We managed to sell all over the world without charging any VAT abroad. It is ludicrous to pay a tax in a country you don't live in and only UK does it and then only people who are not correctly accounting. There ARE some domain companies in UK that understand this and only charge VAT to local residents - as it should be. You cannot claim VAT back from another country on a non-physical item (ie one that shows no shipping/export). So anyone that pays UK VAT outside of UK is losing their money. It's quite simple - your accountant notes the purchaser is outside of UK (provided they are using some form of foreign payment) and marks the service zero-rated VAT.

Originally posted by Melitaweb
I ran a business in UK for 8 years. I am already well aware of the facts thankyou. We managed to sell all over the world without charging any VAT abroad. It is ludicrous to pay a tax in a country you don't live in and only UK does it and then only people who are not correctly accounting. There ARE some domain companies in UK that understand this and only charge VAT to local residents - as it should be. You cannot claim VAT back from another country on a non-physical item (ie one that shows no shipping/export). So anyone that pays UK VAT outside of UK is losing their money. It's quite simple - your accountant notes the purchaser is outside of UK (provided they are using some form of foreign payment) and marks the service zero-rated VAT.

Thats all very well but its against the law and if you have operated a UK company you will know that VAT evasion is a serious criminal offence. Your original post stated that VAT was not payable which it is. The fact you think it shouldn't matters not.
If there is UK registers offering zero rated domains then the risk is theirs and C&E can reclaim back up to 7 years and they would have to pay this. Your comments however that it is incorrect accounting are simply wrong, zero rating for VAT purposes is fraudulent accounting.

Interesting to note the new Euro VAT regulations which makes encumbant of foreign companies to collect VAT on goods sold to member states ( how the hell they will make this work will be interesting)

Also intersting is Rackshack operates out of Texas and if I ( being in the UK) want to purchase a server I have to pay Texas tax which is very similar to the UK domain situation, so it is not just the UK

My original post was not meant to be a dig I omitted a smilie at the end of the first line.

Just for the record I have ran a UK business for 22 years and like you this was the first time I had came across a product like this, basically the VAT office has deemed the the product never leaves the UK, which it doesn't so is therefore a vatable item.

Well then I accept that your knowledge is more recent than mine being that I have been out of UK for a good few years now and I concede to your point.
I should point out though that every time I have been forced to pay UK VAT I have NEVER ever managed to claim it back. I also know at least six other non-UK companies (Non-EC) that haven't ever got any back either.
As far as I am concerned this is just another reason to steer clear of UK domain registrars when purchasing .co.uk.

I ran a business in UK for 8 years.

But obviously not recently.
All of this changed with the new UE VAT directive and its effect on US trading.

In any case web hosting and domainname scome under telecommunicaitons supplies so if you have servers in the Uk and host US customers on them you have to charge VAT.
Thats why we have seperate US and UK facilities.

We employ a VAT consultant from Moore Stephens to keep us on the right side of a very complex and constantly shifting VAT position.

On a related note, US companies charge sales tax to Uk businesses (e.g Rackshack)
So its a two way street.

Gordon

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Even including the VAT it's still cheaper to buy through a uk registrar than an american one . . . .

Originally posted by my_forum_id
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Even including the VAT it's still cheaper to buy through a uk registrar than an american one . . . .

A point I was trying to make.

The American company has had to pay the vat somehow even if it is hidden, eg. Enom pays Nominet £5 + VAT (£5.75) per domain per 2 years and sells for say $14 ( £9.50) you are still paying the VAT figure just not seeing it, the same goes for Opensrs and any other non UK supplier.
That is why I cant understand the claim that you shouldn't buy from UK suppliers :(

In any case web hosting and domainname scome under telecommunicaitons supplies so if you have servers in the Uk and host US customers on them you have to charge VAT.

Gordon, looks like I have a query as i got the opposite accounting advice on this VAT dilemma, in fact we were advised it was external to EU that would have to charge VAT on these goods to members states ( as in above I have not got a clue how they will acheive this) basically the whole thing is a bloody mess