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lord2001
08-06-2001, 10:51 AM
Hello All You Hosting Experts!
Can I Beg You All To Impart Your Extensive Knowledge About the hosting Industry to me. Actually I Am Need of a Webhost Which In Your View is ** Reliable ** . Below I Am Giving The List Of Features I Need In The Host.
-> 200 Mb Or More Space
-> Perl 5 [ Must Allow YaBB ( Yet Another Bulliten Board) , Links Ver2 , Every Auction ]
-> Must allow access below public_html Directory ( ie. not publically accessed directory).
-> Php4 And mySQL Will Be Preffered.
-> Control Pannel Is A Must.
-> Bandwidth Should Be 12 Gb or More.
-> Setup Fees Must Be Around 20$.
-> Monthly Costs Of The Package Should Be Around 12$ - 14$ / Month
-> The CGI Timeout Should Be Around 300 Sec ( Though Asking Much Much Much Much More Than What I Really Require But I Was Told By A Friend That 300 Sec Is Considered The Industry Standard ... I May Be Able To Nagotiate On This Point ... Contact Me For Asking Me My Requirements As I Cannot Post Em Publically To Protect My Great Idea)
-> The Server Must Be Linux or Unix .. Win2K And NT Are Absolutely No.

Ok So Here Coms The Most Essential Point I Look In The Host : The Host Must Accept A Demand Draft... For Those Who Don't know about A Demand Draft.. All That you need to accept a demand draft is Just Any Bank account ( private or merchant)... You Need to pay no transaction cost i.e. bank charges as they are already prepaid by me. The reason for me asking this is that I Don't Possess A Credit Card ( For The Timebeing) And Not Even A Debit Card...

With The Reply Of The Above Your Ides of The Following Two Hosts is also Needed 1) rackhost.net - Lite Rack ... 2) get-hosted.com - Basic Pack.

I Know That you Cannot Advertise Yourself Thru This Board So You May Want to Contact me Directly : My email- thecyberworld@hclinfinet.com , call@isownerof.net , thecwg@hclinfinet.com (cc) , call@lordof.every1.net ( Pl Use It As The Last Option if You Do Not Get A Reply From Any Of The Above Addresses or If Any Of Above Bounces Back).Or You May Contact Me By ICQ : #72632470 Nickname: Techmaster .

With Regards
Lord Brar

____[Note]_________________________
Fasthosts and donhost resellers
please pardon

WebSnail.net
08-06-2001, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by lord2001
Hello All You Hosting Experts!
Can I Beg You All To Impart Your Extensive Knowledge About the hosting Industry to me. Actually I Am Need of a Webhost Which In Your View is ** Reliable **
(snip)
-> Bandwidth Should Be 12 Gb or More.
-> Setup Fees Must Be Around 20$.
-> Monthly Costs Of The Package Should Be Around 12$ - 14$ / Month
(snip)
-> The CGI Timeout Should Be Around 300 Sec ( Though Asking Much Much Much Much More Than What I Really Require But I Was Told By A Friend That 300 Sec Is Considered The Industry Standard ...
Hmm, from what I've been learning about the ins and outs as to hosting you are essentially asking for a free lunch... well near as dammit anyways.

1. Bandwidth... You don't even offer enough to pay for the cost of that alone.
2. CPU usage. Given that you're planning to use a forum and I imagine quite a lot, you're likely to be a heavy user on a shared server which will slow down other users on the system. Not a nice prospect for them at all.

Overall you're looking at something that would cost most people around $50+ a month at least (my estimate)... Bottom line, if anyone offers you the above at your prices I'd be surprised if you stayed up for longer than 4 months...

I'd recommend you reconsider your costing and may'be ask for quotes based on your spec' then you might get a better idea of what you're asking for.

Not flaming ya, but at the moment you're being pretty unrealistic in your requirements.

Regards,

Martin

lord2001
08-06-2001, 11:27 AM
Actually Let Us Take It Below ...... This setup is just for a few months........ After this i may go in for a dedicates serever but for now i need shared....

gnorthey00
08-06-2001, 11:52 AM
Try WizardsHosting.com, supposedly a good service, and I believe a rate that is inexpensive.

sitekeeper
08-06-2001, 11:52 AM
I have to agree with WebSnail.net :agree:, you are asking a lot.

There are too many PHP Bulliten Board (Forum) programs out there. All of the CGI Bulliten Board (Forum) programs are resource hogs :angry: , hosts are banning them a lot.

You are asking for Php4 And mySQL, use it to run one of the PHP Bulliten Board (Forum) programs. Everyone I know who tried them liked them soooo much better. (Much Faster too!)

Find a host with Mod_Gzip installed and run a PHP4 Board and you will find a deal like what you are looking for, or better.

BOB :)

lord2001
08-07-2001, 01:18 AM
You are asking for Php4 And mySQL, use it to run one of the PHP Bulliten Board (Forum) programs. Everyone I know who tried them liked them soooo much better. (Much Faster too!)
Sorry To Tell You Buddy But YaBB Has Got Features Which Not Even vBulliten Has Got.

Can Anyone Tell Me If They Have Any Experience With get-hosted.com or rackhost.net

Cyberpunk
08-07-2001, 04:06 AM
But my host banned it, apparently it the worst power hog of them all! Many people have confirmed it.

Someone at XMBforum said they might consider a migration script for YaBB to theirs.

Havent the YaBB team got round to their php version of YaBB2 yet?? Its been ages since they announced they were going to do it.

I think it will not be long before most hosts shut down YaBB and a few others being used on their servers. I hear UBB is bad too.

WebSnail.net
08-07-2001, 04:24 AM
Lord,

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong but you seem to be assuming we're lecturing you... We're actually offering sound advice based on experience... Much of it painfully learned. If you chose to ignore it then that's your option but I think you'll find there's quite a bit of truth to what we've pointed out.

Either way good luck with your search...

As for finding out about those two hosts... do searches for their names on this forum and also through Google and see what crops up.

lord2001
08-07-2001, 10:05 AM
Perhaps I'm reading this wrong but you seem to be assuming we're lecturing you... We're actually offering sound advice based on experience... Much of it painfully learned. If you chose to ignore it then that's your option but I think you'll find there's quite a bit of truth to what we've pointed out

Dot'e ever think that. i Really Believe in you guys That is the reason i am Askin You For Help...... if you felt so ... my apologies are there

Cyberpunk : can ye please give me the URL For XMBforums

Love

Lord

Cyberpunk
08-07-2001, 05:13 PM
http://www.xmbforum.com

XMBforum (http://www.xmbforum.com) :D

Its a new project just getting started, but then YaBB was in its early days when I started using it.

I ended up emailing WJ a zipped copy of my forum cause he was interested in writing a conversion script. He wasnt sure when he might get round to doing it. If youve got a large traffic board I'm sure theyll be interested in helping you out.

Look for my posts under the same name I use here, that should lead you to the relevant thread and the right guy.

Good luck finding a host, the only one I can speak for experience with is venturesonline and so far theyre 100% perfect (6 months).

First decent host I've used - no joke!

lord2001
08-08-2001, 12:23 PM
Buddy . thanks. can you tell me your view about get-hosted.com

Cyberpunk
08-08-2001, 01:03 PM
Except this from their TOS:

Forum usage:
Only one instance of an online forum should be run from any single hosting account. Forum software supported and recommended include vBulletin and phpBB (mySQL version). Forum software using flat-file databases (e.g. UltimateBB, YaBB, IkonBoard (flat-file version) are strongly discouraged and may result in the suspension of the affected account.

Nothing really wrong with this standpoint except it dosent bode well for your YaBB.

Good bandwith allotment and youre hosted on a static IP which is good. Find out what cpanel they have for their accounts, it dosent say which one. What you can control on your account varies suprisingly between the types. I dont see any uptime garuntees or network or server specs either.

Send them a couple of emails and try to find out the above things. Split your questions up into 2 or 3 mails and send at different times of the day and see what the answers and response times are (and how comprehensive the answers are), this will give you a good idea of their service. See if they'll give you an IP address on their server to ping for response times and then you can traceroute it to find out where their server is located (ie - in a known fast datacenter etc.)

There shouldnt be any good reason for them not to answer these questions.

Hope that helps.

El Nino
08-08-2001, 01:13 PM
lord, I know www.hostrocket.com has most of what you want. I don't know about the CGI timeout or the Demand Draft, but all the rest fits.

Cyberpunk
08-08-2001, 01:24 PM
But your site, will it have adult content? I see the hosts you are interested in allow it.

Not judging just asking.

lord2001
08-09-2001, 06:09 AM
Ok I Will Be Using Blaze Board... I Don't seem to like XMB..... You May Yourself see www.bbhacks.com ..... it the most customizable board on the net.......

For Get-hosted i wonder if it is possibel for them to provide 20 GB Bandwidth????? it makes me doubtful

Cyberpunk
08-09-2001, 07:51 AM
Thinking about it. If they allow adult sites then they probably can promise good bandwith and come through, they should have a high quota deal as adult sites use so much bandwith generally. Someone I know, his site shifts 100 - 300GB a month. Adult hosting costs so much more as well thay should be able to cover their costs.

Had a look at Blaze board, will have a better look later, looks ok.

lord2001
08-09-2001, 11:01 AM
Thnks buddy for addin me 2 your ICQ... please add me tooo.

Actually blaze board is the ONLY BOARD fully customizable by Templates............. It depends on you how you can modify it.....

Where is your own site hosted..... And what is their CGi Time out

inquisitive
08-09-2001, 12:30 PM
lord ...from your email address i can assume you are from INDIA ...well if its so and you are looking for hosts who could accept Demand Draft then i strongly suggest search for host from INDIA coz i really really doubt if you can make payments to an international host thru DD. ...if you wanna get even an international DD made you require a performa Invoice then only RBI would permitt you for an Int'l DD and to send the DD to any international location your charges for courier would come close to Rs.3500/= and even after that i really doubt whether any host would accept that ... my suggestion if the transaction is a problem ...look for a reliable indian host or better wait till you have a credit card :) you can have a look at the people-connect guys in Mumbai...i have tried them and found the support seems to be ok kinda...well but seeing the kind of bandwidth you are asking at ...i doubt you can get that at price you wanna pay

Cyberpunk
08-09-2001, 03:51 PM
and replied, Sorry, I have it set like that for everyone.

I only have 2 sites up, one with that really cheap offer directoris gave a while back (10$ forever :)) . Fairly good so far, didnt ask them details coz it was so cheap and I just wanted to park that site somewhere to get it live again and work on it. The other is a Roman site and its with Venturesonline and theyve been 100% excellent for 6 months. Dunno what the timeout is but the hosting is fast (Dual pIII 1000 with 2 gig ram) venture3 plan.

I think there are a couple of Indian hosts at this board but I dont know who.

Jonathan K.
08-09-2001, 07:26 PM
It might help if you made a request for offers in the advertising forum since you already know what you want. :)

Btw, moving to xmbforums instead of Yabb is good coz yabb's a resource hog I heard. :)

lord2001
08-10-2001, 12:48 AM
My Friend Bank Of Punjab Only Takes 250 Bucks for an Inter. DD and Intn Wire Transfer..... All I Need to Do is give em in written what all i want..... For your Info i had earlier hosted with people connect...... they suck.

Love

Lord

MCHost-Marc
08-10-2001, 02:42 PM
Most forum scripts very poorly written, such as IkonBoard or XMBForum are true resource hogs. vBulletin and UB2K are fine ;)

WebSnail.net
08-10-2001, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Kiwi
Most forum scripts very poorly written, such as IkonBoard or XMBForum are true resource hogs. vBulletin and UB2K are fine ;) Actually small point for anyone with Ub2k... The support forums have been down now for nearly 2 months... On that basis I'd recommend you steer clear as it seems the script writer has quit the project or something has happened to make him unavailable.

Personally I've used a stable version for ages so I'm reasonably comfortable with its use but newbies should consider steering clear.

Just thought I'd warn you.

Cyberpunk
08-10-2001, 04:58 PM
I wish I could afford to use it :bawling:

lord2001
08-11-2001, 11:41 AM
vBulletin and UB2K are fine

What is UB2k if its free what is its URL?

For all ..... got latest ver of vBulliten...... actually our Mr. Shang @tacidhost.com gave it absolutely free ( pirated copy)

gnorthey00
08-11-2001, 12:22 PM
Aahh... Mr. Shange, judging by his web page, he got that copy pirated, much like the rest of his web page is pirated from other web designer's hard, honest work.

Speaking of our good friend "Mr. Shang" has anyone brought him to court yet?

lord2001
08-12-2001, 10:16 AM
I Think That that son of abitch shang needs to go to the court.

SoftWareRevue
08-12-2001, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by lord2001
What is UB2k if its free what is its URL?
For all ..... got latest ver of vBulliten...... actually our Mr. Shang @tacidhost.com gave it absolutely free ( pirated copy)
:eek: :eek:

OneNetDesign
08-12-2001, 12:02 PM
You get what you pay for in a FREE B.B.S. =(