Erik of 2for1host apparently is back. For those of you who don't know Erik and 2For1host, he scammed a lot of people over with a webhosting "company" and disappeared.
This morning he popped up on AIM (we had deleted him long ago) and started what follows below. The package we are referring to is two teddy bears, some keychains and chocolate for him and his family.

August 7, 7:05 (Central European Summer Time), 2003

EsseneErik: heyn
TMO Germany: hi?
EsseneErik: how are you
TMO Germany: fine...you?
EsseneErik: doing ****ing great. got my mercedes today
TMO Germany: ah ah
TMO Germany: Is this Erik Brisson?
EsseneErik: who the **** ?
EsseneErik: this is chicken bok bok
EsseneErik: this isnt the fat guy who sweats all day >
EsseneErik: or is it ?
TMO Germany: what? This is Val and Alex from Germany
EsseneErik: yeah i know and this is erik
TMO Germany: ok....why you decide to talk to us all of a sudden?
EsseneErik: dont take offense i ****ed over everyone
EsseneErik: and kept all the money
TMO Germany: ah ah nice
TMO Germany: did you ever get hte package we sent?
EsseneErik: yeah
TMO Germany: ok
TMO Germany: So that's your deal you scam people and leave with the money?
EsseneErik: ye
TMO Germany: very nice
TMO Germany: so how often have you done that by now?
EsseneErik: is that any of your business you ****ing whore
EsseneErik: you and alex are inbreds
TMO Germany: hey you started this conversation so back off!
TMO Germany: and it is our business cause you **** us over too!
TMO Germany: I guess Erik Brisson is not even your real name eh?
EsseneErik: its Stephanie Walker
EsseneErik: !!!!
TMO Germany: what?
TMO Germany: so how much of the whole business/company/family story you told us actually was true?
EsseneErik: its just me
EsseneErik: essene never had more then me in the company
TMO Germany: and I guess never any servers in Dallas, eh?
EsseneErik: just rackshack
TMO Germany: so who were the people on the photos? your alleged wife and kids? and your stroke? all a sham, too?
EsseneErik: i have a wife and 2 kids
EsseneErik: but the kids are brats
EsseneErik: and the wifes a wench
TMO Germany: aha, so what did you do with the package?
EsseneErik: there on the streets or a homless shelter i guess
TMO Germany: the package or your wife and kids?
EsseneErik: shut the **** up
EsseneErik: i burnt the package
TMO Germany: so how come you all of a sudden showed up again?
EsseneErik: shut up
EsseneErik: dont ask stupid questons


After that we just decided to block him cause he gave us warning on our AIM account... So be carefull if he starts talking to you.

And for anyone else who has absolutly no clue what this thread is about, the conversation is about, the people mentioned, or anything is about.... :rolleyes: :eek:.

I noticed that 2for1host.net is now pointing at essene, I would simply not encourage or even entertain a discussion with Brisson, rise above it and ignore him, you will be the better person for doing it.

Certainly everyone should keep a poor host such as them in focus though, so if anyone has had or is still having bad experiences with them keep posting.

I will bet money that the 2for1host website has appeared somewhere under a different domain, be ever watchful!!!!

For those that dont know what this is all about, do a search on 2for1host.net

Originally posted by TheWeaverofD

TMO Germany: I guess Erik Brisson is not even your real name eh?
EsseneErik: its Stephanie Walker

EsseneErik: i have a wife and 2 kids
EsseneErik: but the kids are brats
EsseneErik: and the wifes a wench

Simonclark every watched an episode of springer? Theirs often men that turn into women ;)

Maybe he has not told his wife about his "other" side

Very strange conversation indeed. We need to keep a watch out for this guy regardless, he left alot of people with alot to be desired at 2for1host.

I don't believe that Stephanie Walker is her/his real name, as he/she doesn't seem so stupid..
And giving away your real name in this situation is a stupidity.
However, another SAD story. :p

Yo People.

Just wanna let you all know that Erik had a major bust up with a kid called Brent. Who used to work with him. I'm 100% sure that its Brent whos writing all those nasty messages and not Erik.

The wording and phrasing is so this kid Brent and not Erik.

Whatever experiences you've had with Erik is your own business. All I can say mine have been cool, however I know mistakes have been made.

This Brent kid is a nasty piece of work. i know. ive delt with him myself, hes contacted me in the past saying some nasty stuff.

Well thats all I gotta say on the subject.

Peace!

Shiny

Originally posted by shinyhead
Yo People.

Just wanna let you all know that Erik had a major bust up with a kid called Brent. Who used to work with him. I'm 100% sure that its Brent whos writing all those nasty messages and not Erik.

The wording and phrasing is so this kid Brent and not Erik.

Whatever experiences you've had with Erik is your own business. All I can say mine have been cool, however I know mistakes have been made.

This Brent kid is a nasty piece of work. i know. ive delt with him myself, hes contacted me in the past saying some nasty stuff.

Well thats all I gotta say on the subject.

Peace!

Shiny

And how do we know you are not Erik! people will always be suspicious of someone who joins just to make a statement like that.

2checkout.com is supposed to be looking into this. So hopefully he at least won't be able to use them to take credit cards now. Although they were good to me about getting a refund. ;)

Well... I believe that the fault again falls on the customers who fell for something like a "2for1hosting". This is not the flea market....

Or even worst, those who not only fell for a 2for1hosting but also sent the owner of the business gifts...

I am sorry if this may seem offensive but it really is the truth. Beware when you choose a hosting provider...

Good Day,

Regardless of those handful of individuals who have an axe to grind with the 2for1host brand, the conversation above was not mine nor anyone within the company.

Brent Whiteley, former owner of Media Devil Networks of Calgary, Alberta was the individual who posted the above.

Whatever you may or may not think that 2for1host has done to you in the past, it would pale in comparison to this individual and what he has done to many companies across america.

He had a serious beef with us and with that said, had taken it upon himself to have the above conversation.

We are talking about a 17 year old child that has the a lower IQ and maturity level than my 9 year old daughter and I wish I was exagerrating about this.

I just wanted to clear the air about this..

We apologize for the interruption in your normal programming and please move forward with your sophmoric bashing of 2for1Host.

Thanks
Erik

So you crawled out of your hole then?

Nice to see your as sarcastic as always.

And what response do you have for that handful of customers that you caused nothing but misery, kept their money and then laughed at them while doing it.

I am sorry, but it is not a good practice to lower yourself to the people who against you Erik. It pays off to remain professional and not resort to slander.

Surprise Surprise, gone offline.

Got more faces than the town hall clock has Erik!

wow.. i need to grab some popcorn.. this threads like a soap opera :D

Thanks CrazyTech,

On the contrary, the individual was not a client.

As to the other issues, it's not my policy to have open air battles within this forum.

I just wanted to clear the air on the conversation that was posted.

Well I didnt want to sound like I am lecturing you are anything mate ;) Just don't lower yourself to their level.

lol, go for it Erik you might actually convince some people of your sincerity

Lets jog your memory and ask why you did not clear the air on these issues from previous posts.


Those <people> at 2for1host and essene are scammers.

I prepaid for a year, using egold. They had troubles and they extended this by another 3 months hosting.

Then they <stuff> me around and the servers were <unreliable>

NOW AFTER 6 MONTHS OF <BAD> SERVICE THEY DELETED MY RESELLER ACCOUNT.

What can i do if they dont even answer their emails or anything. I dont think i will see my money again.


Well It was to be expected, when it sound too good to be true, it probably is.

I have paid for 1 year with 2 for 1 hosting, my server didn't have much problems unlike others ppl from what I can see, but now It seem that they just died.

My server is down since about 5 days now, at first I though they were having a small problem and it would come back fast, but nothing happened. I emailed them a couple of times and nothing..

Oh well that suck, I spent all the money I could spend on hosting on this plan.

Thanks a lot 2for1


am in the process of a bad experience with them. I had my site hosted with superuser.net. It was great ad gave me no problems, but there was no customer support. So I switched to 2for1host. I took advantage of the free domain name and als had my other domain point to the site. Three days later I ave no evidence of the new site even being registered. My old domain gets to the site, but everything I installed through the control panel(invision) points to the new domain and doesn't work. The server load is at an average of 3-7. On my old host I never saw it above 1. It was always at like .3, so this doesn't look good. When I signed up it said no risk 30 day money back guarantee. I asked for my money back because I was not happy with the service. The response I got from Mr. Brisson was "Your complaints to say the least are unfounded and you have provided no reasonable argument. A refund will not be extended based on this." So what are they guaranteeing?

www.2for1host.net
Site exists, server runs but **** has happened kinda..

Erik (owner) is no where to be found, emailed him 20+ times with no response. I dont understand wtf erik is doing.

Support is on and off. I was a former employee of thier company but now he is totally gone, removed me from modernbill and has discountinued all forms of communications.
I know its not just me because some other people have been asking me where Erik was and all I can say is, "I dont know". It seems like im fired (obviously), thats fine and dandy but atleast exist.

Anyone heard frmo erik or anyone on 2for1 staff in the past 3-4 weeks?


__________________

Originally posted by Arvand
Well... I believe that the fault again falls on the customers who fell for something like a "2for1hosting". This is not the flea market....

Or even worst, those who not only fell for a 2for1hosting but also sent the owner of the business gifts...

I am sorry if this may seem offensive but it really is the truth. Beware when you choose a hosting provider...

I believe your comments will be offensive to the people who have been scammed in the past. Unless you can supply a definative list that everyone must abide by when choosing a host, and guarantee them protection by abiding by this list, then maybe such comments should not be made.

Its like saying anyone who has ever been conned in the past (not just web hosting) are the people who should be sent to jail for being so stupid.
The people who get scammed are the victims, and the con artists are the guilty ones.

You apologise for seeming offensive but stating it as true, well every court of law on earth would disagree with you.

I don't mean to have a go, but I believe some people need to be a little more understanding into how easy it is to be conned, and maybe we should all take a long hard look at the lack of protection in place on the internet,

Hello,

If the site had been up I could have come up with a more appealing post for those who didn't like the way I posted. I had only been to 2for1hosting once but from what I can remember their prices were really low. Also, it seems like these people paid yearly. Anyone who pays yearly for hosting service just ought to learn their lesson and never do it again...
Something must have gone on to let this Erik character to get so many clients in the short time to purchase a mercedes (or if thats just a lie then enough money to run away). In the first month that I ran I only got 5 clients. It would be really hard to run away with their monthly payments and buy myself a mercedes. So obviously something tricked these people into choosing 2for1hosting over another hosting company and that is where your clue is on why you shouldn't choose 2for1hosting...

Control Panels have been developed for users to be able to manage their accounts with little technical knowledge, just so have hosting companies made the account signup procedure easy even for the internet newbies.

Often people new to web hosting don't know the difference from a good deal and an impossible one.
Rather than blaming the people who are conned, we should really be pushing awareness.
Unfortunately a lot of people discover WHT to come and complain that their host has disappeared, rather than coming to find out the reputable hosting companies.

Okay well I see this allot in just the web hosting resellers forums and basically web hosting forums. I guess the only way to get away from this is to have a dedicated server and forget about people that are either doing the selling out of there homes or buying resellers acounts right?. Because umm I really need a good acount and I can't be having people taking off on me nor do I need someone to cancel my acount and take off with my money that I sent for the business. So is this really my only way of making sure that this does not happen by getting a good dedicated server and paying for that?.

Originally posted by Bunion
Okay well I see this allot in just the web hosting resellers forums and basically web hosting forums. I guess the only way to get away from this is to have a dedicated server and forget about people that are either doing the selling out of there homes or buying resellers acounts right?. Because umm I really need a good acount and I can't be having people taking off on me nor do I need someone to cancel my acount and take off with my money that I sent for the business. So is this really my only way of making sure that this does not happen by getting a good dedicated server and paying for that?.

there are alot of reputable companies out there who do not host from home.
If you need mission critical hosting with excellent service then I would recommend http://www.verio.com

Problem here is that they want everything (the redundant servers, the guy sitting by the phone 24/7 and the 120% uptime) for the low fee of $5 per 50 GB. And then they are suprised that they don't get such things... Its not customer awareness its them being greedy.

Did it ever occur to you that people might not have much money, so they cannot go for a dedicated server or something? People are just trying to go for a good deal, try to blame them for that...

And nobody expects the guy to sit at the phone 24/7, but if you never reach anybody and mails just get ignored, messages left do not get replied to for weeks, don't you agree, too, that something is amiss here?

Originally posted by Arvand
Problem here is that they want everything (the redundant servers, the guy sitting by the phone 24/7 and the 120% uptime) for the low fee of $5 per 50 GB. And then they are suprised that they don't get such things... Its not customer awareness its them being greedy.

Dont be silly, it is customer awareness not greed, if you walk into a shop and see a stereo at $100 then see it in the next shop at $80 your not going to pay $100. The product is the same, your just buying it from a different shop, where is the harm in that? what could possibly go wrong? of course some may suspect its cheaper for a reason and many will not.

Hosting is the same for many people, if they see the same product advertised for less its natural to buy it for less, they dont neccessarily realise what may go wrong.

By raising customer awareness of the pitfalls we can make moves to prevent customers signing up to services they might later regret.

Also no one asked for 120% uptime. No matter what price something is offered at, it should offer what is advertised. This is a lot different from just a cheap host that someone is unhappy with becuase of like speed or something. There are many more problems with Essene than that. For one thing, there is no longer even a helpdesk. The link is there, but it doesn't work. I got my refund, but I couldn't even pay them to get my name transferred from their namecheap account to mine. Luckily i only made that domain since it came with the hosting. Just stop blaming this on the customer. Their are actually some hosts with low prices that offer good service, or at least honest service.

Originally posted by Arvand
Problem here is that they want everything (the redundant servers, the guy sitting by the phone 24/7 and the 120% uptime) for the low fee of $5 per 50 GB. And then they are suprised that they don't get such things... Its not customer awareness its them being greedy.

No they don't want everything, most people who first look for web hosting do not know what a redundant server is. Some don't even know the first thing about how it all works.
For instance I advertise locally, and I visited a small business who wanted a web presence. Now he didn't have the first clue of how the internet worked, just that he used a mouse and it appears when he clicked somewhere.
Now this person didn't have the first clue that his web pages would be stored on a server hundreds of miles away.

Can we please get back on topic.

It seems that 2for1/Essene have a serious problem with some of their (former) employees, because at first it was Chuck, who allegedly took over Erik's MSN and AIM accounts to give **** to people, now it is Brent...

We in no way are trying to bash a company for something it did not do, if you search for 2for1 on this forum, then you will find a whole bunch of threads from different people, who've been screwed majorly by them and never received any reasonable explanation for the stuff that happened with their domains, like us.

We had more downtime in three months than in three years before with our former provider, ridiculously high server loads up the wazoo, mails not working and more, before we took the emergency exit and switched to a different provider, which has been great so far, more expensive, true, and also with a yearly payment, but who stood up to everything advertised and promised.

With 2for1 the online support suddenly never was online anymore, the phones at first only led to an answering machine anyway, then got disconnected completely, mails were not answered anymore, neither direct mails nor stuff via Modernbill and finally whole sites went offline completely. By now the website addy points at Essene, so how does this look like? Like a respected and honorable web host? I doubt it...

Originally posted by essexguy
there are alot of reputable companies out there who do not host from home.
If you need mission critical hosting with excellent service then I would recommend http://www.verio.com Have you seen their prices, but?

$25/mo for a site that gives you 10MB and a GB bandwidth but only allows you to create web-pages by "template", and then only seven "pages".
(I'm scared to type right now, because there is a kooky java window opened claiming to be live help asking me if I have any questions. Holy smokin' support, Batman, I'm sensing where some of that $25 is going!!)

Sorry, I'm heading back OFF topic, aren't I?
I guess I just wanted to... pose the suggestion that with everyone fighting over what is a "right" price for hosting, I am fast becoming convinced I know less now about what makes a "cheap but decent" host than I did before I came to WHT. :eek2:

eriks new number is 403-541-0406. It will be disconnected when the phone company realizes his bill hasnt been paid since he got connected a few months ago.

Too the people who say its the customers fault . this is about a company offering clients hosting for a year and then closing down a few months later leaving the customers with nothing.

The customers are innocent victims of Erik Brisson.

another number for 2for1host is 403 777 2617 thats his partner .

Its funny how he comes on here and blames a person saying someone went on his AOL . Considering Erik lives in Olds, AB where the population is like 50 I think the only purpotrator is himself.


cheers

So who are you, LinuxAdmin?

Yeah, Who are you?

It seems I remember you replying to my clients thread about his former hosting at 2for1host and you were on their side at the time, are you a former employee or what?

Not meaning to slander but I think it's time to take attendance. How many kids are actually involved with 2For1Host?

Erik/2for1host, If everything here is fallacy why continue to fight back? The chat log looked like a screenscript to me, "Did you get my package," come on now. That sounds like something from The Godfather II.

A number of topics regarding 2for1host are already on this forum, if someone has honestly been scammed seek action seperately from Webhostingtalk.com. For example BBB, Credit Card Processor, Consumer Affairs Department.

WHT cannot help you and the only loss incurred is minimal. It amuses me to see "Newbies" register on the forum and post complaints. Why not clearly identify yourself?

I apologize if I brought your thread off topic Alex & Val.

jessica and marshall at essene/2for1 was Erik pretending to be someone else.

its funny when people say they were ex employees of 2for1.


the only person whos received money for 2for1host is erik.

did you guys receive a paycheck from 2for1host. I think not.

SE Networks,

Not all bad hosts are run by kids. Dont make sterotypes.

Originally posted by simonclark
SE Networks,

Not all bad hosts are run by kids. Dont make sterotypes.

Sorry simon, I'm not sure where I indicated or even hinted that.

Originally posted by SE Networks
Not meaning to slander but I think it's time to take attendance. How many kids are actually involved with 2For1Host?

Originally posted by LinuxAdmin
Considering Erik lives in Olds, AB where the population is like 50 I think the only purpotrator is himself.
Actually the 2001 census puts it over 6600. But I digress. I feel sorry for those people who have been had by yet another shady operation and I feel ashamed too that it was someone from Canada and from Alberta (my home province). There are no borders when it comes to this business we all know that. Good, bad and indifferent come from all four corners of the globe. We all know the cliches when it comes to price versus product versus service. Sometimes it's hard for people to remember that and hopefully they end up with a good deal and if they don't we shouldn't necessarily discredit them. The next time it could just as easily be us getting caught with our guard down.

ya.. a former employee also.. 1 day happy.. next day fired

sad life

Originally posted by TheWeaverofD
So who are you, LinuxAdmin?
A 2for1 staff member. Wonder why he didn't reply to that question? :eek:

I was wondering myself anon?

Originally posted by LinuxAdmin
jessica and marshall at essene/2for1 was Erik pretending to be someone else.

its funny when people say they were ex employees of 2for1.


the only person whos received money for 2for1host is erik.

did you guys receive a paycheck from 2for1host. I think not.

you sure about that? I believe i've recieved 2 or 3 paychecks from 2for1 before **** happened.
Get your facts straight....
Thx

What does all the bickering here accomplish?

Contact your Attorney General or a lawyer. You're wasting your time when 2for1 most likely could care less about the posts here.

I do not give a damn about what 2for1 gives about the posts here, this is for one to warn people from falling for them and secondly to see, which other experiences people have made with them.

To contact an attorney or lawyer does not bring anything as we are in Germany anyway, so...

Originally posted by insaneraptor
you sure about that? I believe i've recieved 2 or 3 paychecks from 2for1 before **** happened.
Get your facts straight....
Thx




Erik doesn't even have a checkbook and he is -$500 with paypal. You received a very small sum in march so you wouldnt bash erik on wht it was around $20-100

You actually got free hosting and stopped working with 2for1host in march.

Originally posted by Arvand
Well... I believe that the fault again falls on the customers who fell for something like a "2for1hosting". This is not the flea market....

Or even worst, those who not only fell for a 2for1hosting but also sent the owner of the business gifts...

I am sorry if this may seem offensive but it really is the truth. Beware when you choose a hosting provider...



sorry m8 but that stinks, not everyone is as webwise as you, or knows enough to check out places like this, infact believe it or not, not everone in the world knows this place exists.

as far as i can tell you lump everything that ever goes wrong with hosting squarely with the customer, backups, downtime, bad hosting the lot, do you accept responsibility for anything....

is it not about time the good hosts started somekind of goodhost symbol, one that you all agree to and sign up to like abta for the travel industry. its no good just blaming everyone else, as in the end you will lose customers to the bigger hosts.

i spent ages looking round here for my current host, i have had no problem with them up to now, however the host in question was at the time banned from here for something or other, does this make him a bad host? i dont know but the fact that he is here and posting like 6000 posts doesnt make him good either,
all you can do is go off your better instincts and hope you made the right choice, because when you buy something that isnt tangible and the person you buy it off lives the other side of the atlantic there isnt a lot you can do if it goes tits up....

LinuxAdmin,

How do you so much? Were you involved and then jumped ship?

Originally posted by simonclark
LinuxAdmin,

How do you so much? Were you involved and then jumped ship?


im not involved with criminals like erik. hes using the essene name soley now cause hes ruined on 2for1host.

You still have not answerd my question.

Originally posted by simonclark
You still have not answerd my question.

read the first 3 words of my above post

How do you know so much then?