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I'm just now noticing that a lot of places seem to advertise "Quad Xeons," when in actuality they have dual, but they're HyperThreading-enabled, so they appear as four in software.
Is it just me, or is this extremely misleading, if not blatantly fradulent?
Dathorn-Andrew 08-02-2003, 08:21 PM Extremely misleading. Either:
1) They don't know any better.
2) They figure their customers won't know any better.
3) They are urgently in need of some customers
:rolleyes:
IGobyTerry 08-02-2003, 08:36 PM Originally posted by Dathorn_ADT
Extremely misleading. Either:
1) They don't know any better.
2) They figure their customers won't know any better.
3) They are urgently in need of some customers
:rolleyes:
I completely agree with you. It's very fraudish, and blatent false advertising.
wubwob 08-02-2003, 10:13 PM They are Dual Xeons with HT.
Whoever says they are QUAD are completely misleading people and should be shot.
tracphil 08-02-2003, 10:20 PM Very misleading.
I wonder how many websites you could get on a true Quad Xeon. Geez I would hate to have that much weight on my shoulders.
I would think a couple of thousand normal sites.
Totally agree. There is physically only 2 CPU.
ffeingol 08-02-2003, 10:35 PM You would definately know if it's a real quad xeon. Those boxes go for about 10K each.
Frank
Woofcat 08-02-2003, 11:47 PM do people with quads advertise them as having 8 cpu's? :)
The Prohacker 08-02-2003, 11:58 PM Originally posted by Weberz
Very misleading.
I wonder how many websites you could get on a true Quad Xeon. Geez I would hate to have that much weight on my shoulders.
I would think a couple of thousand normal sites.
You really wouldn't use Quads for hosting virtual sites.. You would use them for other server related things like SGI/CGI, mathamatical computations, database servers, etc.. Using it for hosting virtual sites would be a waste of resources...
And yea.. You really know when you are getting a quad because you feel it in your wallet :D Anyone selling a Dual Xeon with HT as a quad should be shot :D
rusko 08-03-2003, 02:59 AM this would be completely fraudulent. HT is just a smoke screen, really - a souped down version of cache optimizations mips and sparc have had for ages. advertising ht duals as quad is a big no no.
paul
Aussie Bob 08-03-2003, 06:50 AM Originally posted by Dathorn_ADT
Extremely misleading. Either:
1) They don't know any better.
2) They figure their customers won't know any better.
3) They are urgently in need of some customers
:rolleyes:
If anyone is promting dual xeons + HT as Quad XEONs, then all of the above there. :eek: :rolleyes:
Aussie Bob 08-03-2003, 06:51 AM Originally posted by wubwob
They are Dual Xeons with HT.
Whoever says they are QUAD are completely misleading people and should be shot.
Shooting them might be a tad harsh. I'd say a good old fashioned tarring and feathering would to the trick. :D
tracphil 08-03-2003, 09:32 AM Originally posted by The Prohacker
You really wouldn't use Quads for hosting virtual sites.. You would use them for other server related things like SGI/CGI, mathamatical computations, database servers, etc.. Using it for hosting virtual sites would be a waste of resources...
I knew that I was being sarcastic. Who would want the presure of having a couple of thousand sites on one server.
Dedicatedone 08-03-2003, 11:57 AM Most people can say that though because RS's dual xeons are HT. So they show 4 CPU's virtually but only have 2 CPU's physically. I saw some people on gamesnet advertising "Quad Xeon Servers!"
Well ... that's kids for ya!
rusko 08-03-2003, 03:35 PM real quad xeon boxes are very very expensive and are not worth it for hosting. they are primarily OLTP machines where you need to have as much processing power on a single node as possible, because you cant just spread the load by getting two duals. for hosting though getting several duals is much better.
paul
wubwob 08-03-2003, 06:32 PM Shooting is good. We are just helping nature along with natural selection - it seems these days retards live long enough to pass down there retard genes - its why we have so many crap webhosting companys in this world - ripping everyone off!
Hey, I'm in the market for one of those. The one with unlimited disk space & bandwidth :rolleyes: :D
wubwob 08-03-2003, 07:11 PM im still looking for someon to advertise UNLIMITED CPU! - ide love one of those - with unlimited space and bandwidth - then all i need is unlimited customers and unlimited uptime - and im ready to take over the world.
Interestingly, almost 1/4 of people said Quad Xeons on the survey? :eek:
And hosts shouldn't be shot until after giving me their "Quad" Xeons. Someone's gotta confiscate them, right? ;)
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