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iamverysad 07-28-2003, 07:10 AM Now..... I want to know more on Bandwidth.
I saw some dedicated server providers offer servers for 700 GB/month:
Bandwidth: 700GB/MONTH
But some offer like the one below:
Bandwidth: 10MBPS
So, what is the difference between these two? And I would assume 10MBPS is better for I saw their prices are higher..... :D
Thank you very much for your help!
FanCube 07-28-2003, 07:17 AM 700 Gb means that you in a month and generate 700 Gb of incoming and outgoing data. Normally will the server be capped at 100 Mbps.
10 Mbs means that the sever will be capped at 10 Mbps and you will be able to use the full line constantly, a 10 Mbps capped server can generate about up to 3200 Gb of data transfer pr. month.
iamverysad 07-28-2003, 02:59 PM Oh I see..!!
Then how about 1.5 Mbps? How much bandwidth can it generate up to?
And 100 Mbps is 10X faster than 10 Mbps, right?
Also, is T1 = 1.5 Mbps; T3 = 10 Mbps; OC = 100 Mbps? Or Am I completely wrong?
Please teach me....
Thanks a lot!!!
DD-SNC 07-28-2003, 03:21 PM You're completely wrong. a T3 is 45 mbit/s. and a T1 or 1.5 mbit/s is roughly 400gb/mo.
iamverysad 07-28-2003, 04:51 PM Ok...
I have seen some providers said:
Bandwidth: Unmetered 10Mbps Port
Does that mean we can use over 3200 GB of data transfer??
Mrdredd 07-28-2003, 05:01 PM no, because pushing 10mbps constantly 24/7 will only get you a theoretical 3200gb.
1.5mbps is roughly 320gb/month.
OC3 is 155mbps/second.
iamverysad 07-28-2003, 05:18 PM Oh.... so by saying Bandwidth: Unmetered 10Mbps Port, it actually means we can have approximately 3200 GB of data transfer per month, right?
Also, I saw some providers said Multi-Homed Bandwidth, does that simply mean multi-bandwidth providers are connected to the server? Or am I wrong again??
:(
BhAaD 07-28-2003, 08:04 PM List of connection types and their speeds:
13.21 Gbps OC-255
10 Gbps OC-192
4.976 Gbps OC-96
2.488 Gbps OC-48, STS-48
1.866 Gbps OC-36
1.244 Gbps OC-24
933.12 Mbps OC-18
622.08 Mbps OC-12, STS-12
466.56 Mbps OC-9
155.52 Mbps OC-3, STS-3
100 Mbps CDDI, FDDI, Fast Ethernet, Category 5 cable
51.84 Mbps OC-1, STS-1
44.736 Mbps T-3, DS-3 North America
34.368 Mbps E-3 Europe
20 Mbps Category 4 cable
16 Mbps Fast Token Ring LANs
10 Mbps Thin Ethernet, category 3 cable, cable modem
8.448 Mbps E-2 Europe
6.312 Mbps T-2, DS-2 North America
6.144 Mbps Standard ADSL downstream
4 Mbps Token Ring LANs
3.152 Mbps DS-1c
2.048 Mbps E-1, DS-1 Europe
1.544 Mbps ADSL, T-1, DS-1 North America
128 Kbps ISDN
64 Kbps DS-0, pulse code modulation
56 Kbps 56flex, U.S. Robotics x2 modems,
33.6 Kbps 56flex, x2 modem communications rate
28.8 Kbps V.34, Rockwell V.Fast Class modems
20 Kbps Level 1 cable, minimum cable data speed
14.4 Kbps V.32bis modem, V.17 fax
9600 bps modem speed circa early 1990s
2400 bps modem speed circa 1980s
Units of Measurement
bit = smallest unit of digital information, i.e. ones & zeros
byte = a set of bits (8 to be exact)
bps = bits per second
Kbps = kilobits per second =1000 bits per second
Mbps = Million bits per second =1,000,000 bits per second
Gbps = Gigabits per second = 1,000,000,000 (one billion) bits per second
Tbps = Terabits per second = 1,000,000,000,000 (one trillion) bits per second
(Network speed is mesured in 1000 units, memory and storage space in 1024 units)
mrjetguy 07-28-2003, 09:06 PM What does it mean when its 1 MBPS burstable? I presume that it is better than regular 1 MBPS?
SEATi 07-28-2003, 09:32 PM Multihomed means that the datacenter has upstream connections to more than one provider, that gives you peace of mind as if one of the providers has any problem, your packets will be routed using another provider.
FanCube 07-29-2003, 04:38 AM Originally posted by mrjetguy
What does it mean when its 1 MBPS burstable? I presume that it is better than regular 1 MBPS?
1Mbps burstable means that you can use 1Mbit constantly but the server can burst to another speed like 10 Mbits or 100 Mbits so yes it is better than a 1Mbit cap.
iamverysad 08-05-2003, 07:17 PM Originally posted by FanCube
700 Gb means that you in a month and generate 700 Gb of incoming and outgoing data. Normally will the server be capped at 100 Mbps.
10 Mbs means that the sever will be capped at 10 Mbps and you will be able to use the full line constantly, a 10 Mbps capped server can generate about up to 3200 Gb of data transfer pr. month.
So........ 100Mb/s can generate about up to 32000 Gb of data transfer per month, right?
And 100Mb/s connection is always shared with other servers right?
2uantuM 08-05-2003, 07:42 PM first answer theoretically yes ( but next to impossible) , and the 2nd answer is no. If you have a dedicated 100mbps line its gonna run you a few thousand.
The 100Mb/s is almost never shared. Unless your provider decide to use a hub instead of a switch. This is where the non-blocking switch fabric comes in. It is the ability to have every port on the switch to fully utilize their capacity at all times.
s.h.a.zz.y 08-05-2003, 08:13 PM Originally posted by Mfjp
The 100Mb/s is almost never shared. Unless your provider decide to use a hub instead of a switch. This is where the non-blocking switch fabric comes in. It is the ability to have every port on the switch to fully utilize their capacity at all times.
True in one sense BUT what if the switch only has one/two 100mbit connection back to the core; Which is the case for 99.999999% of dedicated server providers.
Originally posted by [eS]s.h.a.z.y
True in one sense BUT what if the switch only has one/two 100mbit connection back to the core; Which is the case for 99.999999% of dedicated server providers.
Exactly, the uplink ports are usually just a 100meg feed, depending on the traffic of the servers. But to anwser his question, the switching environment does provide 100Mbps from the server into the switch all the time if the switch has a non-blocking fabric.
iamverysad 08-10-2003, 07:23 PM Originally posted by 2uantuM
first answer theoretically yes ( but next to impossible) , and the 2nd answer is no. If you have a dedicated 100mbps line its gonna run you a few thousand.
Why is it impossible? I mean what causing it from happening? Can anyone explain a little bit more please??
Thanks a lot!!!
CoolinHL 08-10-2003, 07:53 PM A typical server does not have the capability to push 32000GB/month. It's not a connection problem, it's a hardware limitation.
demonmoo 08-10-2003, 07:57 PM Originally posted by BhAaD
100 Mbps CDDI, FDDI, Fast Ethernet, Category 5 cable
I'd like to point out that the max ethernet speed on category five cabling is actually 1gbs (although for rather short distances.)
codywatkins 08-10-2003, 08:04 PM Originally posted by CoolinHL
A typical server does not have the capability to push 32000GB/month. It's not a connection problem, it's a hardware limitation.
I bet a powerful game or file server could nearly use that. And a lot of bigger data centers are now moving to using 1000Mbps internally to their switches/routers.
codywatkins 08-10-2003, 08:04 PM Originally posted by demonmoo
I'd like to point out that the max ethernet speed on category five cabling is actually 1gbs (although for rather short distances.)
Isn't it 2gbps using full duplex ?
iamverysad 08-10-2003, 08:41 PM Originally posted by CoolinHL
A typical server does not have the capability to push 32000GB/month. It's not a connection problem, it's a hardware limitation.
Alright....
So... Let say I have the server below (for example):
P4 2.4Ghz (800)
1GB ECC+REG DDR Sdram (PC3200)
80GB (7200rpm) HardDisk
cPanel/WHM
Burstable 100mbps bandwidth (unmetered)
.........................
How much bandwidth/month can I actually have or get using this server? Will I be able to reach around 32000GB???
100 Mbps is a LOT of traffic. As a comparison, most places will give you under 1,000 GB of transfer (~3 Mbps) for a box of that speed. While it's entirely possible to use more, I really wouldn't want to be on a box pushing that much transfer. You'd max out the CPU / disks / memory before you could deliver 100 Mbps of meaningful data. (Well... Assuming it was under 'normal' conditions. If you had, say, two people who also had 100 Mbps+ connections, and they were downloading an enormous file, it might be possible. But in most cases, it'd be hundreds of people getting things like PHP pages, and the box would not stand up under that load.)
Is this just hypothetical, or have you found a place offering this? IMHO, you'd be insane to have a single server on anything more than 10 Mbps unmetered -- chances are slim you'd come close to using a fraction of it.
Globex Hosting 08-10-2003, 09:20 PM Hey can anyone put each of these connections in gb/month please
MIDTOWER or rack up to 4U
- 4Mbit speed average
- 100Mbit port
- YIPES bandwidth
- FREE IPs (arin rules)
- FREE reboots
- UN-METERED bandwidth
- no overage charges
- FREE SETUP
- FREE FEDEX PICK UP & 2nd day delivery
MIDTOWER or rack up to 4U
- 6Mbit speed average
- 100Mbit port
- redundant connectivity to 2 backbones
- YIPES bandwidth + Cogent Bandwidth
- FREE IPs (arin rules)
- FREE reboots
- UN-METERED bandwidth
- no overage charges
- FREE SETUP
- FREE FEDEX PICK UP & 2nd day delivery
Midtower or rack up to 8U
- 10Mbit dedicated connection
- 100Mbit port
- Cogent bandwidth
- FREE IPs (arin rules)
- FREE reboots
- UN-METERED bandwidth
- no overage charges
- FREE SETUP
- FREE FEDEX PICK UP & 2nd day
Thank you!:)
eddy2099 08-10-2003, 10:00 PM Originally posted by iamverysad
Alright....
So... Let say I have the server below (for example):
P4 2.4Ghz (800)
1GB ECC+REG DDR Sdram (PC3200)
80GB (7200rpm) HardDisk
cPanel/WHM
Burstable 100mbps bandwidth (unmetered)
.........................
How much bandwidth/month can I actually have or get using this server? Will I be able to reach around 32000GB???
Again, it is hard to say. But from the looks of the hardware, you would probably not be able to hit your theortical 32000gb, probably about 1000 to 2000gb or so. But the burstable allows you to burst when is needed as to whether your hardware can handle it, it is hard to say.
If you are using dual CPUs or a server farm sharing that connection, maybe.
There are several components involved here, the CPU speed, RAM, Harddisk Speed, Network Speed and so on. So it depends on what kind of applications and services you intend to run. Some things like CGIs and servers might utilize the CPU quite a bit and thus would take time processing the data and might not be able to push out transfer during that time frame. Or some other hardware might not take the heat and cause the bottleneck.
Also, when you look at the burstable bandwidth, it would include both incoming and outgoing traffic. And in theory for it to be fully utilized, the traffic level must be sustainable, ie constant throughout.
The rule of thumb is 1 Mbps = 324 GB/month. But this assumes you use the full 1 Mbps the whole time -- most sites have a bell curve bandwidth usage -- it peaks around noon, and drops off as the night goes on.
You can multiply the Mbps by 324 to get GB/month, but keep in mind you probably won't get too close to it.
Joseph_M 08-11-2003, 12:35 PM Globex Hosting Read what they say
4mbit SPEED AVERAGE!
6mbit SPEED AVERAGE!
SPEED AVERAGE! NOT DEDICATED IT MEANS THAT THEY WILL WORK OUT TO ROUGHLY THAT BUT MAY BE A LOT LESS OR MAY BE A LOT MORE!
to work out gb from a mbit line
Speed(in mbit)*324
But bear in mind that Yipes and Cogent aren't the most reliable of bandwidth providers, you'll find that you get a fair amount of downtime, although it is improving SLOWLY.
Also since those are COLO prices at FDC you'll also have to pay for a server.
Globex Hosting 08-11-2003, 06:14 PM Originally posted by Joseph_M
Globex Hosting Read what they say
4mbit SPEED AVERAGE!
6mbit SPEED AVERAGE!
SPEED AVERAGE! NOT DEDICATED IT MEANS THAT THEY WILL WORK OUT TO ROUGHLY THAT BUT MAY BE A LOT LESS OR MAY BE A LOT MORE!
to work out gb from a mbit line
Speed(in mbit)*324
But bear in mind that Yipes and Cogent aren't the most reliable of bandwidth providers, you'll find that you get a fair amount of downtime, although it is improving SLOWLY.
Also since those are COLO prices at FDC you'll also have to pay for a server.
Yes I know you need a server? I do have a server. Iiwas just wondering how much bandwidth (gb/month) for fdc colo services thats all, and i already know that so i'm fine now:)
rewobo 08-12-2003, 02:09 AM Originally posted by iamverysad
Alright....
So... Let say I have the server below (for example):
P4 2.4Ghz (800)
1GB ECC+REG DDR Sdram (PC3200)
80GB (7200rpm) HardDisk
cPanel/WHM
Burstable 100mbps bandwidth (unmetered)
.........................
How much bandwidth/month can I actually have or get using this server? Will I be able to reach around 32000GB???
Please make sure you check their network, it can be a burstable 100mbps port. But what good is a 100mbps when the entire data center's network can only push out 2 mbps to the net.
PsyDonia 08-12-2003, 08:24 AM Witch Hosting Company does have Dedicate Server with.
Burstable 100mbps bandwidth (unmetered)
:)
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