View Full Version : Ny one worried about Code Red?
Andrew_Ge 07-31-2001, 05:01 PM If u havent heard about Code red yet, well u should'nt be hosting!
How are ISP's with Win NT planning to cope? Use the MS patch? just wondering as people in the UK are starting to panic as some people think it affects their computer instead of the server.
Thank god i run Linux!
Ny comments?
sbrad 07-31-2001, 05:39 PM If u havent heard about Code red yet, well u should'nt be hosting!
Guess I shouldn't be hosting then. :bawling:
Oh, wait. I don't host NT.
Well, if I don't know the difference maybe I shouldn't be hosting.
wth_0611 08-01-2001, 10:23 AM Originally posted by Andrew_Ge
... just wondering as people in the UK are starting to panic as some people think it affects their computer instead of the server...
- Y2K
- Code Red
- The sky is falling
Seriously, it was a concern, but like many issues, "experts" in some government agencies and organizations tend to hype somethings to justify jobs/positions and grab the media spotlight.
You take things in stride and look at the big picture. Most NT admins know that with Windows based systems, a re-boot schedule is pretty much the norm in maintaining your network (thanks Bill G!). Code Red is memory resident - you reboot and it goes away until it's passed on again. Install the patch (Windows= patch+update+patch+update), reboot and wait for the next crisis.
(returning to my hole to fine-tune my Apple ][e for a more pleasurable surfing experience)
bteeter 08-01-2001, 03:39 PM Originally posted by Andrew_Ge
If u havent heard about Code red yet, well u should'nt be hosting!
How are ISP's with Win NT planning to cope? Use the MS patch? just wondering as people in the UK are starting to panic as some people think it affects their computer instead of the server.
Thank god i run Linux!
Ny comments?
Heard of it? Yes.
Care about it? Not really.
Running Unix servers is a beautiful thing. My main consulting client has two web application architectures.
Once relies on NT and ASP, the other Solaris and JSP. The Solaris boxes are rebooted weekly per company policy (although before this policy was forced on us, we hadn't rebooted since we rolled out, which was like 4 months).
The NT boxes have to be rebooted hourly in some cases. They have not yet had a day go by where at least one of the NT boxes doesn't blue screen. Not one in over 6 months.
They had to have _8_ different NT server clusters to be able to handle the load of the application. Oh, and even in the NT environments, they still run the Oracle DB (1 per NT cluster) on a 20 CPU Solaris box, because NT and SQL Server just cannot scale to the level of performance that they need.
My own experience and the experience of my collegues suggests that running web services on NT/2000 is risky at best. You not only have to worry about stability and security, but scalability as well.
I'd much rather have a UNIX system that I know will perform until somebody hits it repeatedly with a sledgehammer.
Take care,
Brian
Blame the media for the hype.
They seem to freak out about everything they don't
understand: computers, the Internet,
and people who think media types are overblown airbags. :D
Aloha
blame the media and the gov they got it so they panic
I lived on Lanai and the owner of the island Murdock used to come out and visit
funny he would go out and get his jeep stuck on the Monroe trail that goes over the top of the island so he would try to shut down the trail saying it was not driveable
mainly he is an idiot and could not drive so he would think nobody else could
same as media and same as the gov they got very little clue. so they panic and freak out
us pros will be OK all the newbies will be getting it
so sad
eclipsewebs 08-01-2001, 09:45 PM (returning to my hole to fine-tune my Apple ][e for a more pleasurable surfing experience)
I thought I was the only one with one of these relics. Maybe your ][e and mine can hook up, with the great 300 baud modem that you could buy for an arm and a leg.
Originally posted by eclipsewebs
I thought I was the only one with one of these relics. Maybe your ][e and mine can hook up, with the great 300 baud modem that you could buy for an arm and a leg.
hehehe when I had one I was so stoked to get hte extended 128K memory and display
ahhh those were the days
"You are standing in a corner with a chest"
hehhehehhe
wth_0611 08-02-2001, 12:31 AM I thought I was the only one with one of these relics. Maybe your ][e and mine can hook up, with the great 300 baud modem that you could buy for an arm and a leg.
Originally posted by Honu
hehehe when I had one I was so stoked to get hte extended 128K memory and display
ahhh those were the days
It was pretty exciting watching the text come over the modem just a little faster than you could type. My big thrill was when I bought an external hard-drive ... cost more than the computer and was the size of my current
desk top. Damn, now I have this urge to dig out my 8-track collection ....
Opps .. off topic, I hear the moderator walking this way. Hide the beer and cigarettes! :erm:
Aloha
yeah I also remember when I got that cool stand that held the two drives over the cpu area that was cool
also remember taking a hole punch to use the other side of floppies.
AHHHH the day of beagle bros software
heheheh wheee
memories
man I remember when I got my first 128 mac and we would solder 512 chips in the place and it would work
I still remember turning it on and seeing a GUI
ahhhhhhh
wth_0611 08-02-2001, 01:54 AM Beagle Bros ... Wow ... they had some great "antique" artwork on their boxes. Never got the stand, but did
get the combo snap on power/surge protector! Also
needed the upgrade chip to show the right year:D
Webdude 08-02-2001, 02:23 AM Hmm, I was on the apple museum page while reading this thread... http://apple2history.org/museum/museum.html
Heres one for Beagle Bros:
http://www.panic.com/~stevenf/beagle/contents.html
Aloha
Mahalos web dude
those icons bring back memories
ahhhh those were the days
Sorgboi 08-02-2001, 04:34 AM Come on guys, back on topic ;)
I heard on the radio a couple of days ago, a quote from some FBI tech guru (apparently).. "Code Red is the worst thing to have hit the Internet yet".. nope, that's marketing.
And yes, I lovingly remember my ][e :cartman:
Sorg
neon202 08-02-2001, 06:08 AM i read news.com review on code red. this is very dangerous worm. more dangerous then the dinosaurs in jurasic park :D
<< ----
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-6741564-0.html?tag=tp_pr
"Code Red crawls back into action
The worm is back, but it hasn't yet caused too much damage."
------ >>>
actually all Microsoft fault. They don't release there source code and thus quality of code remind deferrer. this is why cost of hosting on Windows Platform is high because there is lot's of administrative work involved. I read in (dos attack) thread that microsoft is opening new ways for hacker in its new operating system XP. So XP can be defined as:
XP =
"eXPerience the threat "
"eXPerience slow speed "
"eXPerience high budget"
"eXPerience new hardware because it needs it"
"eXPerience Bills bank account getting larger"
"eXPerience bla bla bla"
"eXPerience ADD YOU COMMENTS HERE . . . "
just a thought . . .
:D :D
Einewton 10-25-2002, 01:10 AM Is that what XP stands for is "eXPerience" That's gay.
Akash 10-25-2002, 01:12 AM :eek: ooooollllddd thread
but yeah...XP = eXPerience....didn't you see the commercials?? ;)
Einewton 10-25-2002, 03:07 PM ha ha, No, im to bussy making money hosting, i watch TV for the Simpsons.
Then it's back to customer support and requests.
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