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Dedicatedone
07-26-2003, 01:57 PM
Please post for east, central, and west.

I know about the following and I want your opinion on these as well:
www.nocster.com
www.dedicatednow.com
www.rackshack.net
www.servermatrix.com
www.hostany.com
www.rack4less.com

I'm looking to do A LOT of research so anything would help.

Thanks a lot for your time.

takiman
07-26-2003, 02:02 PM
Stay away from Hostany. The support is a joke. It takes weeks for them to answer a trouble ticket. There is also no phone support so if you need to talk to someone right away you're out of luck.

Dedicatedone
07-26-2003, 02:04 PM
Also, if you have any game servers hosted, please pm me with the IP and the ISP you got the server from as well as the specs you got ;)

Thanks

Dedicatedone
07-26-2003, 02:14 PM
Thanks takiman, any suggestions for west servers then? One with a balance of good quality with good pricing?

rmcadams
07-26-2003, 06:09 PM
Go with rackshack :)

tried and true :)

Mrdredd
07-26-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by Retalin
Go with rackshack :)

tried and true :)

or not

rmcadams
07-26-2003, 06:12 PM
Or not what?

Rackshack is the staple for cheap unmanaged servers in this economy.

Would you like to refute that? Im intrigued by your post.

takiman
07-26-2003, 06:21 PM
For the west coast I think out of your list Rack4Less is probably the best. They are in the Hurricane Electric data centre so ping times will be very low for people in the SF bay area and California. They have an offer on this board for a dedicated server with lots of bandwidth for a very good price.

Defcon|Rich
07-26-2003, 06:49 PM
I'm pretty new to dedicated hosting but most of the forums including this one all suggested thePlanet/serverMatrix if you want a server to host games on so i went with them and have been very happy,

Here are a couple games i have running at the moment:

BF1942 : 69.56.139.222:14567

Unreal Tournament : 69.56.144.114:7777


Servers are in Dallas, Texas


On a side note i would like to add alot of people i talked to told me Rackshack isn't that great for gameservers, Do a search on these forums and you will probably come up with a few of thise posts

JustinH
07-26-2003, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by Retalin
Or not what?

Rackshack is the staple for cheap unmanaged servers in this economy.

Would you like to refute that? Im intrigued by your post.

Yes I would... they aren't the staple of anything, they are a cheap provider (one of the largest) amonst thousands of cheap providers. In any case, this is for game hosting, and for game hosting RS sucks.
Go with The Planet for game hosting (for Central US)...

Dedicatedone
07-26-2003, 07:15 PM
I've heard a few stories on both sides.

I think I might have to try both to see.

rmcadams
07-26-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by comphosting
Yes I would... they aren't the staple of anything, they are a cheap provider (one of the largest) amonst thousands of cheap providers. In any case, this is for game hosting, and for game hosting RS sucks.
Go with The Planet for game hosting (for Central US)...

Now I am definately enthralled.

Please by all means I dont personally use Rackshack any more but when I did they were great. I have a guy that lives next door to me who still has a pretty massive account with them and he doesnt have a single issue, in fact what took me so long to get back to you is I was on his private 42 server which works great (and is hosted at rackshack).

So your not going to call Rackshack a staple in this economy, yet your going to admit that they are one of the largest, that in and of itself is an oxymoron.

Please by all means, fill me in with some good hard facts as to why RS sucks for game hosting... I am curious to hear it :) Its obviously not out of the realm of possibilites, I've just never personally experienced it.

JustinH
07-26-2003, 07:31 PM
Now I am definately enthralled.
Please by all means I dont personally use Rackshack any more but when I did they were great. I have a guy that lives next door to me who still has a pretty massive account with them and he doesnt have a single issue, in fact what took me so long to get back to you is I was on his private 42 server which works great (and is hosted at rackshack).

RS's network ping times vary too terribly much over the US to make it a valid solution for a gaming server that isn't going to be used in a localized area (where RS speeds are acceptable). Take ping times from the North West (Washington, Oregon) and you'll begin to get an idea of what I'm saying.

So your not going to call Rackshack a staple in this economy, yet your going to admit that they are one of the largest, that in and of itself is an oxymoron.

I said they were one of the largest cheap hosting providers, but are in NO way a staple of this economy. The phrase, litterally means, that they are a part of, or the whole that is "holding the economy together", when in the "big picture" they aren't even a wort on a frogs ass. Yes they are huge in WHT terms, but the true staples of the economy in this industry, would be more like AT&T, Sprint, Verizon etc... an even better example of a true "staple of the economy" (not just the hosting-related industry), would be companies such as Microsoft, Boeing and others. If you honestly think that RS is anywhere near the level of these companies, then you really need to get a better grip on the true scope of how big RS is in terms of revenue not server counts.

Please by all means, fill me in with some good hard facts as to why RS sucks for game hosting... I am curious to hear it :) Its obviously not out of the realm of possibilites, I've just never personally experienced it.

Once again, that's more then likely because your connection to RS is acceptable, but that certainly isn't the case across the entire US. RS has great uptime and isn't a bad provider persay, but they certainly aren't on the pedestal that some WHT members think they are.

Jasber
07-26-2003, 07:46 PM
2 of my friends run game servers from rackshack servers. A SoF2 server and a Q3 server, not for money or anything tho. Couldn't be happier, low enough pings that we're happy and very stable network.

rmcadams
07-26-2003, 08:08 PM
Whoa whoa whoa... here we go:

First off you misinterpreted what I was saying, or perhaps I wasnt clear enough.

In 'this economy' I was referring to the cheap unmanaged dedicated servers.

I wasnt referring to a Verio/Level3 or providers of that nature. Rackshack is not a Tier 1 provider and should not be judged against one.

For what they do Rackshack is a staple in its market.

Mrdredd
07-26-2003, 08:27 PM
Retalin - trust us when we tell you things.

We have a lot more experience in these matters.
Rackshack has been examined OVER AND OVER AND OVER for gaming, and EVERYTIME it has come out THE SAME WAY.

RACKSHACK IS NO GOOD FOR GAMING

period!

If you want proof of this, do a search (thats what its there for) and find the countless posts.

We know what we're talking about, most of us have a lot of experience in these dealings, and we know what is "tried and true"

rmcadams
07-26-2003, 08:52 PM
Oh wow if this isnt funny.

Look this is why I dont come here.

You think because I only have 15 posts over 2 years of being on these forums you have more experience than me?

Im not even going to argue with you and your allmighty allknowing self.

Dont assume you know more than people who come here just because you have more posts. Most of us dont have the time to sit here and post hundreds of messages on WHT, because unlike most we are doing what the majority of WHT patrons dream of.

Either way..

I really dont care who the guy goes with, I was giving him my personal advice from my personal experience.

If the guy wants good quality bandwith and good quality servers he shouldnt even be talking about it here.. he wants a budget minded solution and for that any one of his choices other than Hostany will do.

Flame away genious.

JustinH
07-26-2003, 08:58 PM
I notice that you didn't direct that towards me? Would that be because I've been at WHT for 3 years, and in this industry probably before you had ever heard of it? You gave your experience, we gave ours... don't start flaming or bring up stupid-ass post counts, just because you couldn't think of anything intellegent to say back.

Zeph
07-26-2003, 09:01 PM
Hi Dedicatedone,

For the East, I'd highly recommend Superb Servers (http://www.superbservers.net). I've had my rather large (over 100 player) server with them since March, and the performance/reliability have been excellent. I tried a bunch of providers before Superb, and the pings here have been by far the lowest. Their peering really helps imho =)

Hope this helps...

Mrdredd
07-26-2003, 09:04 PM
Did i ONCE mention anything about post counts?

If anyone is basing anything upon post counts, it is none other than yourself.

The proof to back our claims up are in the threads, just do a search.

Dedicatedone
07-27-2003, 12:09 AM
Thanks for the suggestion zeph

Dedicatedone
07-27-2003, 12:10 AM
Please just quit the bashing. If you don't have anything to add on then just don't. People are here to give me an opinion, not to bash some user.

2uantuM
07-27-2003, 03:15 AM
I whole heartedly reccomend DedicatedNOW for colocation services. They have, for the most part, been excellent.

They are no longer on the DCJN network, and are directly plugged into Premium NAC. DedicatedNOW has been steadily improving since I first got their service in January.

I have seen people from florida, quebec and toronto, to oklahoma, all ping under 40 or 50 to our servers in Jersey. Their latency times are very incredible. The lowest latency I have seen is 9 inside game...

Mrdredd
07-27-2003, 11:09 AM
Post an IP to ping 2uantuM

Dedicatedone
07-27-2003, 11:29 AM
Don't post IP, please just PM it. Thanks.

JeremyL
07-27-2003, 01:57 PM
Rackshack i ok if your hosting personal game servers but if plan on selling them stay far far away. That is unless you plan on selling so cheap that your customers will stay no matter how unstable the pings can be.The main issue with RS's network is thier routing. I live in Dallas and for the most part pings are good with them and go directly to them. But unpredictably there will be like a week straight where my connection is routed up to the northeast and back down to southern Texas giving me like a 90 ping. Trust me, the first CS server I setup for myself was at RS. It was fine for a personel box since it was so cheap but If I had been selling servers from it I wouldn't have been able to pay the customers to stay when the routes get messed up.

If you want a SOLID network go with some of the large companies that don't thrive on cheap services. Netfire, Exodus, and so on. Companies that have multiple Tier one connections and sit on top of the backbones.

Dedicatedone
07-27-2003, 03:37 PM
What config did you use Jeremy

JeremyL
07-27-2003, 03:54 PM
What does config have to do with how a network routes a packet?

Dedicatedone
07-27-2003, 04:59 PM
I'm just wondering what config ... if you don't want to post that then don't.

I wanted to make sure it wasn't a celeron 1.3 you were trying to host them on.