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Asher S
07-31-2001, 02:05 PM
I recently purchased a webhosting account from 2mhost.com for somereason they cancelled my account when i did not even ask for it. they "said" that they refunded my cc but they didnt because today i received my cc statement. This has happened to other people too so steer clear of 2mhost.com. I've started some enquiries into their business and they're in for some trouble. Im trying my best to get their 2checkout account terminated. Please take my advice.

I hope you people do not run into troublesome fraudulent merchants like 2mhost.com.

markblair
07-31-2001, 02:12 PM
If you paid by credit card have your credit card company do a chargeback against them. They will refund you the money spent and then the 2mhost.com will have to pay the credit card company. Most credit card companies do this for a small fee but it is worth it to get back your money.

Good luck and thanks for the warning...

en
07-31-2001, 02:15 PM
Their intro page has FLASH (agh!) and many typo's.

oh dear.

markblair
07-31-2001, 03:09 PM
Key Features:

Unlimited Bandwidth/Hits.

SoftWareRevue
07-31-2001, 03:55 PM
<<EDIT>>

Problem solved

brav0
07-31-2001, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by ^Kyo
I recently purchased a webhosting account from 2mhost.com for somereason they cancelled my account when i did not even ask for it. they "said" that they refunded my cc but they didnt because today i received my cc statement. This has happened to other people too so steer clear of 2mhost.com. I've started some enquiries into their business and they're in for some trouble. Im trying my best to get their 2checkout account terminated. Please take my advice.

I hope you people do not run into troublesome fraudulent merchants like 2mhost.com.

Kyo,

I looked at your page (http://acenet-enterprises.net ) and (after getting through the javascript errors) looks like you're selling merchant accounts and you do credit card processing like Revecom but you don't list any contact info about your company.

Looking at your page one gets a feeling of a scam operation (I am not saying that you are running a scam, I'm just describing the thought that came to my mind when I saw your site). Maybe your host was weary for the same reason. It's very hard for foreign citizens to even get a merchant account in the US, let alone offering merchant accounts and selling credit card processing services. Are the merchant accounts opened with a US bank or with a Pakistani bank? You don't specify on your site.

What about the free web hosting you advertize on your page? How do you offer such a service? From an unlimited traffic account?

You also say you sell web hosting. Do you have your own server or do you resell for someone?

Your site has the potential to create many problems for a host including major legal ones. Is it worth to the host $1.50/month?

Just some thoughts...

bert
07-31-2001, 06:32 PM
Nothing personal and no offense, but $1.50/month for hosting???????

:(

Asher S
08-01-2001, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by brav0


Kyo,

I looked at your page (http://acenet-enterprises.net ) and (after getting through the javascript errors) looks like you're selling merchant accounts and you do credit card processing like Revecom but you don't list any contact info about your company.

Looking at your page one gets a feeling of a scam operation (I am not saying that you are running a scam, I'm just describing the thought that came to my mind when I saw your site). Maybe your host was weary for the same reason. It's very hard for foreign citizens to even get a merchant account in the US, let alone offering merchant accounts and selling credit card processing services. Are the merchant accounts opened with a US bank or with a Pakistani bank? You don't specify on your site.

What about the free web hosting you advertize on your page? How do you offer such a service? From an unlimited traffic account?

You also say you sell web hosting. Do you have your own server or do you resell for someone?

Your site has the potential to create many problems for a host including major legal ones. Is it worth to the host $1.50/month?

Just some thoughts...


Actually 2mhost.com was NOT for my site. I purchased it for someone else. My site is hosted on tera-byte and has been for a long time. And the javascript errs are occuring on the older ie for somereason and not on ie 5.5 but its being fixed. As far as free webhosting is being concerened we'll be giving it away to quality websites whith LIMITED bandwidth/hits. And the merchant account is a thirdparty CC processing service not really a merchant. However you may compare it to one. And there are NO legal issues involved in my website its all legal. And from 2mhost i didnot pau $1.50 i bought ssl and all other addons so it was not 1.50. Again i mention i was trying out 2mhost FOR SOMEONE. As far as contact info is concerned Im putting that page up. Understand this we've been designing MySQL databases and stuff for the past few months and therefore we have not had the time to complete our website. Contact info/company background will be put up within a day. Do you have any other questions?
By the way exactly what gives you the feeling of a scam operation??

brav0
08-01-2001, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by ^Kyo


By the way exactly what gives you the feeling of a scam operation??

It's the fact that I see a web site that looks like it was put together overnight, that offers cc processing services without any info about the company behind it. Compare it for example to the sites of Revecom (http://www.revecom.com) and iBill (http://www.ibill.com) and you'll see what I mean.

The observations I made in my previous post are points that would raise red flags with most visitors to your site and would make a web host concerned.

BTW I am using IE5.5 and still get javascript errors.

Asher S
08-01-2001, 05:42 AM
ok you're saying I should redesign my website? Good suggestion. You see we could not put time into the website at all. ive already told you it took months to build the databases and transaction processing API. Besides the merchant services are also powered by another company with which we are dealing. Any other comments? Thanks for raising this point i will redo the site.

bert
08-01-2001, 07:18 AM
^Kyo, I think your site is fine. It is obvious that it is still in the developing stages. As far as my $1.50/month hosting comment, don't even pay attention to it, I said it because to be honest with you I just can't see how a host can be profitable with those prices, but again I might be wrong. They probably get a heck of a good deal from their upstream providers. ;)

2Mhost
08-12-2001, 11:04 AM
<<MOD EDIT:>>
Message removed due to having no relevance to the thread, as well as being cross posted in multiple threads.
<</MOD EDIT>>

Asher S
08-12-2001, 11:15 AM
Listen Mr Mohamed I never spammed you. I sent you 2 notices. If you consider that spamming you're the worlds biggest f*****g ass***! My site never violated your policy dont give us your lame excuses! You didnt refund my credit card that shows you're a fraud! Learn some damned English then launch a hosting company. What!!! You impose a f******g fine on me for sending you 2 f******g emails! thats it ass***e big mistake!

marksy
08-12-2001, 11:30 AM
This isn't the place to flame each other - send that crap via email to him. Letting people know about a host and reasons they may want to avoid them is cool, but he has as much right to post non-verifiable info here as you do.

TradeViceroy
08-12-2001, 11:31 AM
He has posted the same message 2 other times in other 2mhost.com related threads.

marksy
08-12-2001, 11:43 AM
BTW, Mohamed - I'd suggest you change your business model as well. $1.50 is far too low. Even if you get 40 new sites a day you are only making $60. You cannot run a business with that many domains with - as you said - "the help of a small team" Time and time again that same business model has come through here and screamed - we can do it, you guys are jealous, etc etc - and they fade away after 3 months because the revenue stream and time demands just don't match up.
At $1.50 you attract a couple of people - 1) people who know nothing about hosting and think cheaper is better - and no matter how much control you give them, will require support. 2) people who are running scams or spam or warez and want cheap bandwidth 3) people who really don' care about their site.
Only #3 is decent although the repeat biz from them is about 10%. People serious about their site will realize how overloaded a server must be at $1.50 a domain and the impact that has on their site - and go elsewhere. I'd venture to say that you could triple your price and get about the same # of signups. $1.50 isn't any real psychological price point.

I'm not telling you how to run your business - just passing on several yrs worth of experience. Take it for what it is worth.