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View Full Version : 1U Colo with 300-600GB Monthly or 1-2mb/Second?
clambert 07-30-2001, 03:35 AM Anyone want to give me a deal?
Looking for something $400-800/month...
I'd go with EFreeServers, but something seems fishy with their pricing.
RackMy.com 07-30-2001, 03:51 AM Hey Chris,
We can provide that for you, but it's a little more than requested!
1U Rack Fee: waived :)
300 GB of Bandwidth: $975.00
Let me know if you have any questions.
clambert 07-30-2001, 03:56 AM Well, I could get a full T1 in my house for $800 and it would pump more bandwidth than 300GB. Thanks though.
RackMy.com 07-30-2001, 08:07 AM Well, I could get a full T1 in my house for $800 and it would pump more bandwidth than 300GB. Thanks though.:) Yep, I know that one.
You pay more per MB for our colocation (over a single T1) because of the costs in building a reliable/redundant network/datacenter. Dual Cisco BGP4 routed feeds from UUNet/AT&T/Genutity, redundant A/C, clean & redundant power, security, etc.
Let me know if we can help in any way!
PERL SCRIPTOR 07-30-2001, 09:25 AM $800 for a in-house T1? Ouch, in New Brunswick we have Vibe (T1) now upgrading throughout the province to be faster all for only $250 CDN installed and 49.99 a month! Unlimited bandwidth and usage. It used to be only 5 GB of transfer but has now gone unlimited and this is with the provincal telephone company NBTel.
cbaker17 07-30-2001, 09:59 AM I can do 35.00/month 1 u colo with remote reboot power outlet and bandwidth at 2.00/gig or if your going to pay for 2 mb's ill do 1.75/gig, this is fully burstable bandwidth over UUNET/Sprint in a BGP Rudundant Load Balanced Setup over multiple T3's
For questions on our service and level of customer satisfaction do a search on dtwebworks (our old site) youll see only tons of happy customers.
For questions on our facility visit www.affordablecolo.com
ckizer 07-30-2001, 11:34 AM On a dedicated t1, if you are using it for hosting, it will cost you about $800 a month after you get through with all the equipment and cblock and such
DNCOO 07-30-2001, 11:54 AM Hello,
I can offer you colocation.
600 GB ( Fully Burstable )
$1200 a month
Please contact me if interested.
Highest Regards,
sbrad 07-30-2001, 01:14 PM 400 GB
No setup fees
Free 1u-2u rack space
$399/month
Fully burstable, no throttle. Overage starts at $1/GB.
clambert 07-30-2001, 01:30 PM Brad, it looks like you're just reselling for EFS... ;-)
Any concerns I had about whether or not EFS is going to be around in a year...or if they cap lines...would also apply to their resellers.
But, I guess you get what you pay for. Our budget simply can't afford $1200+/month right now, so I'll keep looking.
DNCOO 07-30-2001, 01:36 PM But, I guess you get what you pay for. Our budget simply can't afford $1200+/month right now, so I'll keep looking.
Let me see what I can do for you, I can probably get you better pricing in our Equinix facility.
I will be in touch shortly :)
DNCOO 07-30-2001, 01:49 PM Clambert,
Okay, I can offer you 1/U colocation w/ 600 GB fully burstable bandwidth.
$950 a month.
If you have any questions or comments about this quote please feel free to contact me directly.
Highest Regards,
sbrad 07-30-2001, 02:07 PM Any concerns I had about whether or not EFS is going to be around in a year...or if they cap lines...would also apply to their resellers.
Ok, I'm not trying to step on any toes here, but I want to drag this dead horse out in the open.
I've seen a ton of people (not you clambert) voice their opinions over EFS and their resellers over the last month or so, and it strikes me as odd...because these people have never been customers of EFS or their resellers.
You obviously have the right to your own opinion, and you certainly have the RIGHT to have peace of mind when you place your business in the hands of others.:)
But I would really like to know what the reservations are about EFS are. I get the, "I dunno...it's EFS" line alot on this board, but nowhere else. Maybe folks on here are just more educated than the average bear. Or maybe not...I don't know. But I do know I don't get this reaction anywhere else.
What we have here is a company that has spent an ENORMOUS amount of money to ensure they can provide premium bandwidth and rack space for a lot less than most people. They have a top of the line uptime guarantee. Due to their rapid success (which comes from their rock-solid business plan), they are TODAY staffing a brand new, larger office in the Bay Area.
I have yet to hear a disgruntled customer make a single post about EFS (again, not directed at you clambert) on this board.
If your concern is simply the amount of time they have been in business, then that's fine. However, I really don't understand it when you say:
"But, I guess you get what you pay for."
and
"But something smells fishy about their pricing"
If you have such concerns about a company, you should either try to work it out with that company, or...if that isn't possible, live with it. One needn't say such things about companies they haven't had dealings with, unless, maybe, they have seen posts from other members indicating that it is too good to be true. But I would encourage you to do a search of the board and see the many people that said they were going to use EFS, and ask them what their experience has been like. Because they sure haven't been posting any bad ones on this board.
Please don't take my post as personal insult, or as having any malice. But I'm intimately involved with this company. Heck, it's my bread and butter. And I would really like to know why so many people are so leary...other than the fact that they don't get a "warm fuzzy feeling" about them.
Finally, for anyone that thinks EFS exists much the same way the wizard in the Wizard of Oz did, they are happy to provide access to their facility for anyone that wishes to visit.
Thanks for reading!
MCHost-Marc 07-30-2001, 02:09 PM We can offer you 2MBits Transfer (640GBs) for $800.00/month including 1/U colocation - which is around $1.25 per GB. Unlimited IPs are also included ;)
Please contact me anytime personally at marc@mchost.com if you are interested!
sbrad 07-30-2001, 02:17 PM By the way. If anyone who is considering EFS wishes to see MRTG stats showing bandwidth usage from a few of their high usage customers, I would be happy to provide you with links. Just email me. :cool:
clambert 07-30-2001, 02:26 PM Why am I skeptical of EFS?
1) I don't know of any NOCs that sell bandwidth for $1/GB, even if purchased in large amounts. It seems to me they're counting on clients not using the full bandwidth amounts.
2) On their dedicated plans, they secretly slip in the terms that if you don't stay 20 months, you have to purchase the server at full price.
3) "Free" services don't work on the internet, or anywhere, for that matter. Most have already closed down, some abruptly, so I'm not overly confident in giving off a $3500 server to someone who might disappear.
4) They don't provide any information about current clients.
"provider...to some of the top ISPs, ASPs, e-commerce solutions providers, and web hosting companies in the world"
"Fortune 500 customers depend on E.FreeServers"
Show me a list of some of these top ASPs, ISPs, or Fortune 500 companies. I simply don't know of any high traffic sites which are hosted by EFS, do you?
clambert 07-30-2001, 02:26 PM Yes, brad...I would be very interested. ;-)
sbrad 07-30-2001, 02:42 PM Ok, I'm going to keep beating this dead horse, as long as no one minds.
1) I don't know of any NOCs that sell bandwidth for $1/GB, even if purchased in large amounts. It seems to me they're counting on clients not using the full bandwidth amounts.
Well, Kiwi (a great guy by the way...I've heard nothing but good stuff about mchost) just offered you a buck and a quarter a gig. How cheap is too cheap?
2) On their dedicated plans, they secretly slip in the terms that if you don't stay 20 months, you have to purchase the server at full price.
First...it's not "secretly" slipped anywhere. Secretly would imply they hide it. They don't. It's a click away. That's what the "Terms of Service" agreement is for...to lay out the "particulars".
Secondly...you don't appear to be in the market for a dedicated server, so I don't see how this applies.
3) "Free" services don't work on the internet, or anywhere, for that matter. Most have already closed down, some abruptly, so I'm not overly confident in giving off a $3500 server to someone who might disappear.
Yep. The ones that have closed down are the ones who really were offering "something for nothing". $300 for a dedicated server and 200GB is a good price, but it's certainly not the lowest out there. It's all about the way the market it. If you'll notice, the straight bandwidth prices start at $1/GB, but the dedicated servers are a straight $1.50. hint hint
4) They don't provide any information about current clients.
I don't know about that. Of course, I don't know anyone else that does, either. Client lists *usually* aren't public. I noticed from your website that you do...more power to ya!
I'm sending the stats as soon as I submit this. Stand by!
RackMy.com 07-30-2001, 02:54 PM Hey Brad,
Ok, I'm going to keep beating this dead horse, as long as no one minds. I don't mind :)
I know Level 3 is your primary bandwidth supplier, but who else do you have and how is your network set-up?
Have a great one!
PS. If anyone is interested in how I think EFS makes money, feel free to email me as this is not the proper place :)
sbrad 07-30-2001, 06:39 PM I know Level 3 is your primary bandwidth supplier, but who else do you have and how is your network set-up?
We (ie, them) are currently installing an additional 100mbps line from Qwest for BGP. Since their OC-48 fiber is on the 3rd floor and we're on the 5th floor, there's no telco hop.
MCHost-Marc 07-30-2001, 07:40 PM Originally posted by sbrad
Well, Kiwi (a great guy by the way...I've heard nothing but good stuff about mchost) just offered you a buck and a quarter a gig. How cheap is too cheap?
Honestly, we're not playing with the resources in any way. 1GB of bandwidth for colocation costs us less than $1 - thats why we pass it onto our customers for $1.25 per gig. This is high-quality bandwidth we are offering at a very competitive prices. All servers connect at 100 Mbit Full-Duplex to a Cisco or Foundry Networks Switch. The Switch's connect to the router via a fiber-optic 5 gigabit ethernet connection and the router connects to our various uplinks through several OC-12, and OC-48 links.
And if you need more than 2MBits, we would be happy to offer you an even better discount :)
StephenRS 08-23-2001, 11:12 AM Is anyone at eFreeServers reselling that DOESN'T have the 300GB minimum on bandwidth for co-location?
I need oen server (1u) with 200GB/month and a firewall system (1U) with only 1GB/month.
If I go direct to eFreeServers, I fear they are going to hit me for $400/month... as they bundle 300GB of bandwidth with EACH SERVER even if you don't need it (and don't want to pay for it).
Do their resellers offer ways around this?
sbrad 08-23-2001, 01:23 PM Is anyone at eFreeServers reselling that DOESN'T have the 300GB minimum on bandwidth for co-location?
It's 200GB, not 300.
Do their resellers offer ways around this?
Nope :bawling:
dektong 08-23-2001, 01:33 PM Originally posted by Kiwi
Honestly, we're not playing with the resources in any way. 1GB of bandwidth for colocation costs us less than $1
Visualroute shows that you have your server(s) inside nac.net ... Is that right? How come you get bandwith less than $1/GB? NAC.net charges around $0.7 per kbps (or more than $2/GB) , the last time I check them out ...
cheers,
:beer:
MCHost-Marc 08-23-2001, 02:00 PM Our dedicated servers are located at NAC in New Jersey; but our colo plans are at the Level3 datacenter in Downtown NewYork City.
Vortech 08-23-2001, 02:38 PM If you still need more options please check us out as well..
http://www.vortechhosting.com/dedicated/co-lo.html
We can easily give you $1.50 per GB or less based on commitment for BGP-4 bandwidth. E-mail me and we'll talk.
ispclub.com 08-27-2001, 12:54 PM Chris,
If you want 1Mb of bandwidth I can set up in our data center for $700 and that will give you 320GB of data transfer per month.
I dont know how we compare but you have to be careful of companies overselling their bandwidth.
Check us out at www.ispclub.com (http://www.ispclub.com)
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