Shawn does time... but for another crime. Justice has been served, regardless. Shawn will spend the next 18mos of his pathetic life in federal prison being someone's bitch.

http://www.cyberwingsowesmemoney.com/

Love this bit from that article -
Silsby said White admitted to a Westbrook detective that he had bought the equipment without Inexx's persmission, and that he thought he could sell the items on eBay for a profit and then re-pay the company. However, he was selling the palm pilots for less than the purchase price.
Classic stuff!! :D

wow, just proves that scammers always lose out in the end.

Lovely jubbly. :D

He didn't know much about ebay if he thought he could sell electronics at a profit! :D Embezzlement got him in the end!

As Justin appears to have located the Ace of Spades in the Webhosting Hall of Shame deck, he's entitled to the reward.

Justin, your lifetime double zapped hosting account(retail value one dollar) is on its way. You can activate as soon as the Premiere Data Center is complete.

It's about time he ended up in jail even though it was unrelated to his hosting scams.

The crappy thing is he will be out in like 2 - 3 months.

Originally posted by KIAHost
The crappy thing is he will be out in like 2 - 3 months.

Agree. Actually, for this crime he might not go at all. One of the guys around the corner got 10 months (multiple charges all non-violent), but never did a day since the crime was not murder, rape, etc. Plus, this was his first offense. He did, I believe 45 days, and was released. Jails simply do not have the room to hold non-violent offenders. I followed his case since his family asked me to look over his charges and give recommendations, since I'm paralegal. I recommended they call an attorney....

It is sad to say that if this is his first time KIAHost might have been joking but the truth is really he MIGHT do 2 to 3 months for a first offense.

Originally posted by KIAHost
The crappy thing is he will be out in like 2 - 3 months.
Yeah but it will SEEM like a lifetime to the other prisoners.:D

Yep wouldn't be surprised tif he doesn't even spend any time in jail at all, an 18 month sentence, especially for a "non violent" crime, is often what's the word, commuted? which means usually means parole (or is that probation? my lack of criminal knowledge I don't consider to be a bad thing haha) and if they do something "bad" while on parole they'll go to the clink then.

I think Shawn really ruined the reputation of my state...

Originally posted by Gordo
Yeah but it will SEEM like a lifetime to the other prisoners.:D

If he does actually serve he'll just learn new and improved scamming techniques while he's in there.

All prison is is like graduate school for cons.

Dixiesys
You are correct. He will be better and wiser when he gets out..sad very sad.
So be on the look out for him and be Careful!!!

Originally posted by Phrozen
I think Shawn really ruined the reputation of my state...

Maybe you can join the rest of Americans and sue Shawn! :D

You won't get nothing... I don't think those other jokers will ever see that 75, 000.00 of resti money.

Best thing about this whole deal is the government has SOMETHING on him now. At 25 I don't think he will be able to keep his nose clean, and maybe this will be a baby step to hard prison time.

Especially since the amount defrauded was only $75,000 and he confessed. He’ll probably spend a couple months in a county jail instead of Federal Prison. The upside is that if this is only his first conviction it counts towards his tally. He will probably continue on his scams claiming more victims eventually after a few more convictions then they’ll throw the book at him but not this time. I bet he’s out quick if he does anytime at all due to the small amount stolen and if he is a first time offender.

Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Are you folks expressing a lack of faith your own justice system? Its true there are always more victims than purbs but in the end I think the justice system will take him down a notch or two. With a conviction, its going to get really hard for him to get a respectable job.

Originally posted by idologicJeff
Tsk Tsk Tsk.

Are you folks expressing a lack of faith your own justice system? Its true there are always more victims than purbs but in the end I think the justice system will take him down a notch or two. With a conviction, its going to get really hard for him to get a respectable job.
No I was talking about the actual doing time part. No way he does 18 months in prison. As in reagards to his life a convicted felon I'm sure it will be tougher but he can always just open up another web hosting company. :D

Unlike a real job, no one checks your criminal record to be a web host, at least no one does until you piss a few people off then it's amazing the stuff people will look up about you (thinking of that spammer on dslreports).

I know many are rejoicing that Shawn has finally been brought to justice. His activities of his entire adult life have been one scam after another. I once knew someone very similar. Always selling....always scamming. Certainly, we are all glad to see his illegal activities halted.

However, I don't feel any joy whatsoever in this turn of events. Rather, I feel sadness....sadness that a young man has chosen the wrong path time and again and destroyed his life. That a young man has made irreversable mistakes and probably will never change...most certainly, will never escape from his past actions.

With his sales skills and obvious charisma he had the world in his hands. He could have been successful in so many fields. However, the fact that it came so easy to him meant that he didn't have to do it legitimately. He was so good he could seel anyone on anything. He built a cult-like following of believers. Had he channeled his energies toward legal and legitimate activity, had he had the proper mentors and followed their advice, had he developed a sense of integrity and right versus wrong, he could have accomplished anything he set his mind to.

However, he chose what he saw as the easy way out. Don't you wonder where his parents were all this time? Don't you wonder why he chose time and again the path of dishonesty and deceit? I do. And, I feel saddened that a young life with so much potential has been wasted and has gone down the wrong path.

Unfortunately, we see this all too often here in WHT. We see it in those much younger than Shawn. We call the Kentucky parents of the young king of web scam and they don't care. We watch the underage brothers with so much talent use it in all the wrong ways. I wonder if Tim, Larron, and Brandon, as well as many others who frequent here, are watching what has become of Shawn. I suspect they remain convinced it can't happen to them. I see 13 year olds with such incredible knowledge and talent and only wish someone was guiding them, someone was teaching them, someone was steering them in the right direction.

We all make choices as to how to lead our lives. Why do we choose the way we do? Is it early guidance from our parents? Is it those we observe around us? I never feel superior because of the path I have chosen of honesty and integrity. Rather, I feel blessed that somehow I was led down this path as opposed to alternatives. I pray that somehow the Shawn's and others of the world and of our WHT community will see the light and turn their lives around. And, when I see one going to prison, I only feel sadness, regardless of how deserved their punishment is.

He chose that path he is a 25 year old man plus he doesn’t seem to be that successful of a scammer anyway since cyberwings failed and his $75,000 palm pilot plan failed(since he was selling them at below cost) so it doesn’t appear to me that he is too bright that he could succeed at anything. He couldn’t even make it as thief.

Hopefully Timmah is next.

The best solution I'd recommend to shawn is go in the "Bumper sticker" business. He's gonna need one for his rear that says "Caution one way only". Enjoy prision Shawn :blush:

Originally posted by idologicJeff

Are you folks expressing a lack of faith your own justice system?

Enron :angry:

Originally posted by arpmn
He chose that path he is a 25 year old man plus he doesn’t seem to be that successful of a scammer anyway since cyberwings failed and his $75,000 palm pilot plan failed(since he was selling them at below cost) so it doesn’t appear to me that he is too bright that he could succeed at anything. He couldn’t even make it as thief.
Hello?
When you sell at below cost something your paid zip/nada for, you're still pulling a mighty sexy margin.

Originally posted by arpmn
He chose that path he is a 25 year old man plus he doesn’t seem to be that successful of a scammer anyway since cyberwings failed and his $75,000 palm pilot plan failed(since he was selling them at below cost) so it doesn’t appear to me that he is too bright that he could succeed at anything. He couldn’t even make it as thief.

Umm, maybe it's just me, but if Cyberwings was a scam, then somewhere along the line he must have pocketed something or it would be a rather pointless scam. Was he really broke at the very end? Only Shawn knows that.

And the palm pilot thing, the poinyt there is, he never paid the company back until they found him out, so it didn't matter what price he was selling them at, he was making money.

If he were in the UK he would just have to say he's sorry!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=3&u=/nm/20030722/od_nm/crime_britain_dc

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

This is your butthole bfore prison..... .

This is your butthole after prison...... O

Shawn, any questions?


ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!! :D

LOL :D

Originally posted by cyansmoker
Hello?
When you sell at below cost something your paid zip/nada for, you're still pulling a mighty sexy margin.
Well I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he was hoping to make the 75K back and payback the company he embezzeled and then keep the rest for himself but since he was selling them for less the per unit cost he couldn't do that. I'm aware that his intention was probably just to steal the palms and sell them at whatever so yes at $0 anything he made off them was pure profit.

if i member correctly, when you serve federal time, you dont get any time off like state jail

I don't actually wish to see anyone in jail (apart from the obvious murderers child tortureres etc that's another story) and I think it's a waste of time and an opportunity for a private prison company to make more money from taxpayers dollars

I much prefer people of the ilk of Shawn to have to WORK. A nice job digging sewage ditches or reclaiming a swamp and all of his wages going to pay back the people he scammed

that is forced labor and should not be legal (dont know if it is). i am sure that if he had a reasonably long sentence, he would *beg* to work; as anything, including manual labor. it gets awfully boring in prison after a few years =]

to all of you: you do not know what prison is like. he may have done enough bad stuff to deserve punishment, however no human being deserves to lose his freedom and be placed in such conditions.

paul

Originally posted by Incognito
I know many are rejoicing that Shawn has finally been brought to justice. His activities of his entire adult life have been one scam after another. I once knew someone very similar. Always selling....always scamming. Certainly, we are all glad to see his illegal activities halted.

However, I don't feel any joy whatsoever in this turn of events. Rather, I feel sadness....sadness that a young man has chosen the wrong path time and again and destroyed his life. That a young man has made irreversable mistakes and probably will never change...most certainly, will never escape from his past actions.

With his sales skills and obvious charisma he had the world in his hands. He could have been successful in so many fields. However, the fact that it came so easy to him meant that he didn't have to do it legitimately. He was so good he could seel anyone on anything. He built a cult-like following of believers. Had he channeled his energies toward legal and legitimate activity, had he had the proper mentors and followed their advice, had he developed a sense of integrity and right versus wrong, he could have accomplished anything he set his mind to.

However, he chose what he saw as the easy way out. Don't you wonder where his parents were all this time? Don't you wonder why he chose time and again the path of dishonesty and deceit? I do. And, I feel saddened that a young life with so much potential has been wasted and has gone down the wrong path.

Unfortunately, we see this all too often here in WHT. We see it in those much younger than Shawn. We call the Kentucky parents of the young king of web scam and they don't care. We watch the underage brothers with so much talent use it in all the wrong ways. I wonder if Tim, Larron, and Brandon, as well as many others who frequent here, are watching what has become of Shawn. I suspect they remain convinced it can't happen to them. I see 13 year olds with such incredible knowledge and talent and only wish someone was guiding them, someone was teaching them, someone was steering them in the right direction.

We all make choices as to how to lead our lives. Why do we choose the way we do? Is it early guidance from our parents? Is it those we observe around us? I never feel superior because of the path I have chosen of honesty and integrity. Rather, I feel blessed that somehow I was led down this path as opposed to alternatives. I pray that somehow the Shawn's and others of the world and of our WHT community will see the light and turn their lives around. And, when I see one going to prison, I only feel sadness, regardless of how deserved their punishment is.
Very well written.

that is forced labor and should not be legal it's legal in Australia to the extent of prisoners in some jails (privately owned by an american company) working. They make chairs and filing cabinets which are sold in retail shops
But I meant Shawn should actually have to do some tiring physical work -- get his hands dirty and calloused -- at proper award wages of course -- and have his wages garnisheed (what is that word I'm looking for?) to repay what he has stolen

The new Cyberwings Terms and Conditions:

http://timmerca.com/article/1550/

I go along with most of you, am glad he is doing some time!

Originally posted by KIAHost
The crappy thing is he will be out in like 2 - 3 months.

How much time do embezzlers usually get? Whatever it is, it's not enough! ;)

I don't know the rules, but there is some minimum percent of term that has to be served. Maybe 60%.

He's likely to be assigned to a minimum level federal facility. That means racquet ball only 3 days a week and just HBO, not the Showtime/Starz package.

FYI from www.bop.gov:

Inmate Information for SHAWN J WHITE

Inmate Register Number : 04276-036

Name : SHAWN J WHITE

Age : 26

Race : WHITE

Sex : MALE

Projected Release Date : UNKNOWN

Location : SCHUYLKILL FCI

PO BOX 700
MINERSVILLE , PA 17954

Phone Number : (570)544-7100