HS finally made the announcement.

We have made tremendous progress with Microsoft and the Ensim 2003 Web Editiou control panel is out.

Windows servers will hit our site sometime between the 17th and the end of the month.

Our first offerings will be based upon 2003 Web Edition with 2003 Server following about 1 to 3 weeks behind 2003 Web Edition.

Robert

(Many other new announcements this month .. stay tuned)

http://forums.rackshack.net/showthread.php?threadid=27259

Damn. :(

why damn?

More and more servers on the lovely network, I know they can handle it, im just selfish :) :)

I hope they isolate the network for those servers. I really hate to see one windows server killing everybody's connection because that server has a virus. You know that will happen eventually .. its windows .. :)

I think the perception is long gone and for those that don't understand windows. Windows 2003 is a very secure operating system. I would say a badly setup Linux server is less secure than a badly setup Windows server, Windows 2003 is secure out of the box.

No undetectable trojans and fresh re-installs upon compromise.

Originally posted by drhonk
I hope they isolate the network for those servers. I really hate to see one windows server killing everybody's connection because that server has a virus. You know that will happen eventually .. its windows .. :) Now how the hell is a server going to get a virus? That is just Linux rulz I hate Windoze bantering that is getting real old.

I don't know many numb-skulls that are running Outlook Express to check their email or surfing the web on their dedicated server. That's about the only way you can get a virus now days without physical access to the server.

Lets hope they actually set administrator passwords :)

Originally posted by kingpcgeek
Now how the hell is a server going to get a virus? That is just Linux rulz I hate Windoze bantering that is getting real old.

I don't know many numb-skulls that are running Outlook Express to check their email or surfing the web on their dedicated server. That's about the only way you can get a virus now days without physical access to the server.

Nah...

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/virus/alerts/slammer.asp

Just one example of many. SQL server != Outlook express.

But we're looking forward to the announcement as we'd like to have windows platforms available as well, and are currently 'shopping'.

-David

Originally posted by MattF
I think the perception is long gone and for those that don't understand windows. Windows 2003 is a very secure operating system.

It's also very new. Wait, and bugs and vulnerabilities will come out. I've not used 2003 but hopefully MS will stay on top of vulnerabilities and improve their patching scheme...

-David

Adminstrator passes should be set by the client as soon as they receive a machine anyway.

Originally posted by wubwob
Lets hope they actually set administrator passwords :) You can't install with a blank administrator password.

I hope they isolate the network for those servers. I really hate to see one windows server killing everybody's connection because that server has a virus. You know that will happen eventually .. its windows .. Funny, it's the Linux boxes in our datacenter that always get hacked :)

So what's your opinion of 2003 Mike?
Is it really "secure out of the box" ?
I don't think any OS, besides OpenBSD in the default installation :D , is.
And what are the main advantages of 2003 compared to 2000 ?

Originally posted by RackMy.com
Funny, it's the Linux boxes in our datacenter that always get hacked :)


Maybe it's the administrator:eek2:

j/k:dunce:

Not to start a war, but I do not recall my Linux boxes shutting down networks when the Nimda or Code Red worms were out. ;)

To me this is the only concern we have mixing the two. I like what others have said. Put MS boxes in separate VLANS/etc....

Last I heard they were being seperated...though it's been a month since I was told this so it may have changed :)

Maybe it's the administratorThat would be administratorS as we have hundreds of servers, but you are very correct! An OS is only as good as it's admin.Not to start a war, but I do not recall my Linux boxes shutting down networks when the Nimda or Code Red worms were out. You would be surprised how many times I have...So what's your opinion of 2003 Mike?
Is it really "secure out of the box" ?It's pretty locked down out of the box.

RackMy.com did you used to work for M$? =X

No, but I am Bill Gate's lost son...

Originally posted by RackMy.com
No, but I am Bill Gate's lost son...

Mike has been lost under one of Bill Gate's money piles...we are still looking for him :D.

Originally posted by allan
Mike has been lost under one of Bill Gate's money piles...we are still looking for him :D.

Good luck in finding him, Can i help look through the huge piles of money? PLZZZZZZ

:D