For some reason I don't see many hosting providers offering Virtual Dedicated Servers. Won't it be profitable if I offer this type of service? I mean very profitable since so less people are offering it?

I'm not so sure there's a lot of demand for it. Although virtual dedicateds have their advantages, I don't know that there's a lot of people that are willing to pay $100+ a month for what is basically a shared server account.

how can you be so sure that there isn't great demand for it. I mean there is great demand for dedicated servers right ? and virtual dedicated servers are pretty much the same but at a much lower cost.

You can now get a dedicated for $99 a month...

yea but I can offer my virtual dedicated for only $40 a month and ppl get the power of a dedicated server. I mean everyone wants to own a dedicated server and I can give them that for such a low cost.

I just dont understand whats the difference between it and a regular account...

caseman
"yea but I can offer my virtual dedicated for only $40 a month and ppl get the power of a dedicated server. I mean everyone wants to own a dedicated server and I can give them that for such a low cost."
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How much does it cost for a dedicated server? I want to own one.

well the difference is, you can have 4-100 websites on one virtual dedicated server vs. getting 4-100 different accounts on a server. don' t you see?

Nope I dont see. Either way your server can only handle a set amount. Whether it be your 4 virtual dedicated with 100 accounts each or simpley 400 virtual accounts. Only thing I have noticed that the virtual dedicated has as an advantage is the security(chroot into their "virtual server"). Other then that I would not even consider looking at them. Just my 13cents.....

More than that,
You cannot host as many websites using virtual servers as you can using shared hosting. Apache was optimized to serve multiple domains from one instance. If you run hundreds of instances - it will be completing with itself for the CPU, wasting huge chunk resources. And this is not even considering the cost that virtualization puts on the server,
as you have to intercept some of the system calls, and translate some of the instructions.

but I figured out someway that something like that won't happen. Trust me, the cost of doing VDS is almost like shared hosting but this is so new.

Originally posted by caseman
but I figured out someway that something like that won't happen. Trust me, the cost of doing VDS is almost like shared hosting but this is so new.
And what is the way? I would really like to know how you can optimize that?

I can't tell you company secret but I'll tell you this. Most people would like to have VDS so they can host more than one site, thus they save money. And the cost for managing VDS is like shared hosting.

Hello,

I plan on offering Ensim Private Servers soon. The real benefit of the VDS is security and scale.

A virtual site customer can not have root and can not install their own applications. This is very limited. A virtual site also shares the same space as other virtual sites. This is not ideal for E-Commerce applications.

A VDS, a.k.a Private Server gives the site customer ROOT and the ability to install any application. The disk space is seperate and private.

I can price the Private Servers between a Virtual Domain and Dedicated and provide automated management features to boot.

You can also think of a Private Server as a server without the server.

So 4 people on a VDS and person number 2 reboots the server every night. 3 customers pissed off. Nice :)

So 4 people on a VDS and person number 2 reboots the server every night. 3 customers pissed off. Nice

venomx, you may want to do some research before you post. :D Ensim VDS's are completely isolated. This means I can have one customer reboot every second, and the other 10 or 20 will not even notice. We have had VDS customers completely hose a VDS and not a single other VDS nor physical server was affected.

Either way your server can only handle a set amount. Whether it be your 4 virtual dedicated with 100 accounts each or simpley 400 virtual accounts.

This sums it up. A VDS will allow isolation and fault tolerance, but it will not magically make your server hold more sites. If anything, we have seen a decrease.

Originally posted by venomx
So 4 people on a VDS and person number 2 reboots the server every night. 3 customers pissed off. Nice :)

Doh.... Yea... but if you know anything about Private Servers you would know that they can be rebooted independent of each other and the physical server.

:smash:

I asked what they was but noone took the time to explain! ;p

good explanation. Since its so good, how come not all companies offer it?

Originally posted by caseman
good explanation. Since its so good, how come not all companies offer it?

That is a good question.

I am sure the answer is: "It is NOT FREE" you actually have to pay for this and most people feel that Ensim is too expensive. Personally I think that is a penny wise, pound foolish. The price is cheap for what they give you.

Can someone name a few companies that offer these VDS/Private/Ensim servers? I'm interested.

forsite
huge hosting
cybertitan networks
advanced web hosting
more but can't recall

OLM is their largest customer.