Hello all WHT members, host, programmers, software reseller:

We have just received our Windows 2000 server from EFS. We cann't really do anything without proper web hosting control panel installed. We are looking for some recomendations or offers for a Windows 2000 web hosting control panel.

Please advise if you know one.


Thanks a lot.


:)

This is the only one really or by hand.. LOL

http://www.Hostingcontroller.com

We use but i can;t say to may thing good about it yet its still in beta in my eyes.. ;)

You can look at ensim win 2k, but that will cost some serious cash

Joe

Originally posted by ksstudio
Hello all WHT members, host, programmers, software reseller:

We have just received our Windows 2000 server from EFS. We cann't really do anything without proper web hosting control panel installed. We are looking for some recomendations or offers for a Windows 2000 web hosting control panel.

Please advise if you know one.


Thanks a lot.


:)

Aloha
just curious why you can not do anything without a panel ???

also what did you decide for mail server ???

Originally posted by Honu


Aloha
just curious why you can not do anything without a panel ???

also what did you decide for mail server ???

1. We will use that as a share hosting server, a proper control panel (like CPanel for Linux) really save us a lot of time and energy.

2. We haven't decide which mail server to use.

Thanks ppl.

:)

I represent Positive Software Corporation

Our control panel, H-Sphere, supports both Win 2000 & Unix.

If you want to run Win2000 only, you will need at least one Linux or FreeBSD server (for DNS & Mail).
Once you have it, you can put as many win2000 servers together, and manage them from centralized location.

The software is priced at $4.50 per account one time fee.
More details can be found at http://www.psoft.net

I represent Positive Software Corporation

Our control panel, H-Sphere, supports both Win 2000 & Unix.

If you want to run Win2000 only, you will need at least one Linux or FreeBSD server (for DNS & Mail).
Once you have it, you can put as many win2000 servers together, and manage them from centralized location.

The software is priced at $4.50 per account one time fee.
More details can be found at http://www.psoft.net
So it's $4.50 each time a hosting account is added?

Originally posted by sbrad

So it's $4.50 each time a hosting account is added?

The licenses can be reused, so if you have someone left,
the new account will be "free".
Also, under H-Sphere, each account can have multiple domains. (as many as you wish).

It seems like there is alot of fees that come with it, beyond the 4.50 per client

Joe

There is a setup fee - $95
The rest is totally optional and support oriented.
Most of them will never be used by any hosting companies.
The only two that we have clients signed up are:
- Priority Support
- Maintenance

Originally posted by JBIZ718
It seems like there is alot of fees that come with it, beyond the 4.50 per client

Joe

I think there is a 20% year. Which is that? Maintenance or Support?

It is the maintenance, and it covers all future upgrades.

Originally posted by Flesk
I think there is a 20% year. Which is that? Maintenance or Support?

iseletsk I have sent an e-mail to : info@psoft.net

waiting for your reply.


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WOW! it looks niiiiiice. The pricing is not very clear though!


20% year on maintenance?... well, how much is maintenance? or does that mean 20% of fees paid on tech support?


The only two that we have clients signed up are:
- Priority Support
- Maintenance


On your page, it says "additional tech support". This means the Priority support is an option, no? Even the wording on the priority support suggests this: "7/12 Priority Support can be purchased at..."

And: "Changing IPs If by some reason you will want to change IPs on your server, there is a $130 fees to provide all the necessary configuration changes. "

What does that mean? If I want to change the main server IP, it would cost $130? Or is it if I wanted to add an extra IP to the server? :eek:


Hmm...

*Looks* Like a good control panel, but the pricing policies page sucks. :stickout

[B]WOW! it looks niiiiiice.

Thanks

The pricing is not very clear though!

We will work on it. We wanted to provide our clients with a really strate forward "menu-style" pricing. It looks like it is not that straightforward. :rolleyes:


20% year on maintenance?... well, how much is maintenance? or does that mean 20% of fees paid on tech support?

20% of the total license fee. This will provide you with the upgrades of the software, new features and staff like that.
It should probably be renamed as "subscription fee".


On your page, it says "additional tech support". This means the Priority support is an option, no? Even the wording on the priority support suggests this: "7/12 Priority Support can be purchased at..."

With this options, we will setup the H-Sphere to notify us of any problems, and we will manually intervene and make sure that everything runs smoothly. With this options, you don't have to have sys-admins to maintain the system.


And: "Changing IPs If by some reason you will want to change IPs on your server, there is a $130 fees to provide all the necessary configuration changes. "
What does that mean? If I want to change the main server IP, it would cost $130? Or is it if I wanted to add an extra IP to the server? :eek:

This is for the case when you want to move to a different datacenter, and you have to change all the IPs for your clients. We will take care of it for $130.
This is a temp. option, as this feature will be automated soon, and you will be able to do it "automatically".

ahh.. making more sense now. :)

$xx setup (i forgot how much it was..)
$4.50 per client

then the only (required) fee after that is:
.2 * 4.5 * (#of client licenses purchased) (yearly)

So, with 100 clients, this translates to $90/year?

Sounds like a good deal to me :D

stop press, microsoft makes a great control panel for windows servers and workstations alike, they call it "Explorer" in its recent versions it seems quite stable...

its included in the software you you want to trial it out :) :rolleyes:

Originally posted by xtstrike
stop press, microsoft makes a great control panel for windows servers and workstations alike, they call it "Explorer" in its recent versions it seems quite stable...

its included in the software you you want to trial it out :) :rolleyes:


"great" ?... i dont think so :stickout
"quite stable"? ... ok.. since you said "quite"...

Originally posted by aragon
ahh.. making more sense now. :)

$xx setup (i forgot how much it was..)
$4.50 per client

then the only (required) fee after that is:
.2 * 4.5 * (#of client licenses purchased) (yearly)

So, with 100 clients, this translates to $90/year?

Sounds like a good deal to me :D
Yes, and if you get more than license for more than 100 clients - don't hesitate to ask for the discount ;)

iseletsk> May I remind you this is not the advertising forum, and as such you should really be taking this discussion of offers and prices etc... to the company/person that wishes to purchase a piece of software like the one you offer.

Your posts will remain since there has been considerable discussion about the software on this thread, but please note for future that you should really contact the person directly via PM/e-mail

Thanx :)

Hi,

I've got the same problem over here (maybe even bigger since I'm not capable of handling *nix boxes (been a NT sysadmin for 5 years now)). After intense research all I come up with are 5 options:

http://www.microsoft.com/ISN (look for the webpanel; it's free; but it's buggy and needs a lot of work (what I got from reading the forums that is).

http://www.hostingcontroller.net (looks so so, functionality wise so so as well but completly editable source, however doesn't really go beyond the front end user panel, mail support is great however)

http://www.ensim.com ( I just dunno, it looks like the complete business model to me but the pricing is pretty extreme and I just spend 60000$ on my servers and cabinet and I would need to buy additional unix boxes and can't use the mail package I want. Their sales pitch is somewhat too slick for me (which tells me: yeah spend lot's of buckaroos with us and we will have a complete marketing department at hand to send you more useless stuff then you'll be capable of handling and more since will need to prove you value!!!)).

http://www.psoft.com (looks like a lite version of Ensim which just got back from a major fashion show which is somewhat distorting my opinion because it looks so sexy, however this would mean buying some additional unix boxes as well and when doing so I start to loose sight why I am on W2K and shouldn't convert to Unix and start the eval process all over).

http://www.digitalpoint.com (Product ISPGold, billing package from nature, not sure if it's got a control panel, haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, however great international support)

Any help out there??? Did anyone find what they where looking for??? Or are all the W2K daredevils going back to Unix???

Cheers,
DrAtomic

this maynot be the best solution - and it doesn't offer any type of support so end users can add stuff, but how about vnc (do a quick search for vnc over at google.) It's free - and pretty secure (when used with something like secure ssh - see vandyke's vshell server over at http://www.vandyke.com/products/vshell/index.html).

-neil

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