Hello!

Is there any "Linux webserver certification" existing that a webhost wannabe should consider to take?

Thanks in advance.

Well in the way of Linux certs there is the RHCE/RHCT given by RedHat and the Linux+ given by CompTIA.


Personally I wouldn't bother with either since most users are looking to move to FreeBSD in light of RH's EOL for their software. I don't know about you, but I am not upgrading every 12 months.

Personally I wouldn't bother with either since most users are looking to move to FreeBSD in light of RH's EOL for their software. I don't know about you, but I am not upgrading every 12 months.


Regardless of which, most big companies will still use RedHat. Depends where you want to go in life..

www.brainbench.com - Linux Administration Test, it's under their free tests.

You'd only have to pay for the certificate.

I took the LPI certification, it wasnt so expesive ( around 350$ for the 2 part test ) taken in a proper test centre

The test were apprently written by Gentoo's main author

www.brainbench.com - Linux Administration Test, it's under their free tests.

Those aren't generally look towards for a test of skill by employers. It's sortive like picking your certifications out of a cerial box.


Regardless of which, most big companies will still use RedHat. Depends where you want to go in life..

I was refering to datacenters, most datacenters (which inlcudes webhosts) will not follow along with RH. You work in a DC, you tell me how your going to deal with upgrading to unproven software every 12 months, when your current stable software runs fine?

...in light of RH's EOL for their software.


What is this referring to?

Originally posted by brn2h8
What is this referring to?

RedHat will be discontinuing their current line of software and go for the enterprise market instead.

Checkout www.redhat.com/errata for all the details about the EOL.

Always amazes me to find that everyone thinks RedHat is the only Linux distribution in the world. It is however the best advertised and marketed.

Linux certifications besides Linux+ adn RHCE are the LPI and SAIR folks.

As for Brainbench I guess that's why people like IBM, EDS, JPMorgan, QWest, Verizon etc use them because they're cereal box certifications.

As for Brainbench I guess that's why people like IBM, EDS, JPMorgan, QWest, Verizon etc use them because they're cereal box certifications.



Your telling me these fortune 500 or 1000 companies can't get employees with RHCE's, Linux+, CISSP etc but have to hire people who take free tests (ok ok 14.95 for the peice of paper). Some how I am doubting this sites crediability when I read that. Those tests are a joke and any company who hires people who base their careers on such tests are kidding themselves. Maybe this is why so many companies have issues keeping servers online or their backbones running without a glitch.

I currently hold a MCSA for Win2k (three more tests for MCSE, working on it) and I have already signed up for a CCNA course. I formally had a MCSE on NT4 (that was a waste). Your telling me this is what I have to compete with? These $14.95 certifications? thats a joke. You could easily cheat on any of these and there isn't even any real training given.

Anyone have links for these certs:

"LPI and SAIR"

Quick Search on Yahoo yeilds quite a few results, I think I found the answer in the 2nd or 3rd link.

http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?p=linux+certifications


If not, I am sure theres tons of info there. I know I saw the SAIR listed there.


Check google out as well, I am just a slave to yahoo.

Edit, found this...

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936905,00.asp

It explains all Linux certifications currently available.

Originally posted by neonlexx
Your telling me these fortune 500 or 1000 companies can't get employees with RHCE's, Linux+, CISSP etc but have to hire people who take free tests (ok ok 14.95 for the peice of paper). Some how I am doubting this sites crediability when I read that. Those tests are a joke and any company who hires people who base their careers on such tests are kidding themselves. Maybe this is why so many companies have issues keeping servers online or their backbones running without a glitch.

I currently hold a MCSA for Win2k (three more tests for MCSE, working on it) and I have already signed up for a CCNA course. I formally had a MCSE on NT4 (that was a waste). Your telling me this is what I have to compete with? These $14.95 certifications? thats a joke. You could easily cheat on any of these and there isn't even any real training given.

My point was they are not entirely worthless. At least no more so than any other certification that doesn't have an audited content and a hands on section. Look at how MSCE's became practically meaningless with the advent of the "cram" courses. There are MSCE's out there with certifications and little or no real world experience. Their certs arent anymore valuable in my opinion. That's why Microsoft has tried to overhaul their certification program.

Anyone who hires based solely on the number of pieces of paper someone has deserves the employees they get.

Originally posted by neonlexx
Edit, found this...

http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,936905,00.asp

It explains all Linux certifications currently available.

Interesting read.

I have seen tons of kids around ages 13 to 16 with these brainbench certs and they can't even tell me what the OSI model is or what it stands for. They think that they actually hold something crediable. Atleast the microsoft, cisco, linux+ etc tests you have to study for and have randomized questions that you can't really cheat.

Originally posted by NyteOwl
Always amazes me to find that everyone thinks RedHat is the only Linux distribution in the world. It is however the best advertised and marketed.

Linux certifications besides Linux+ adn RHCE are the LPI and SAIR folks.

As for Brainbench I guess that's why people like IBM, EDS, JPMorgan, QWest, Verizon etc use them because they're cereal box certifications.

Well, it is probably the only organized distribution of Linux and the only one that has a central support/errata/etc... No? :homer:

LPI was actually challenging and stimulating. Allot of people had a bad attitude about them, but i told them to take the 'mock' test on line. Guess what , most ppl failed it.

There were some tricky debian questions ( i never used deb ) , also quite a bit about X, which i am still novice at.

I would say that LPI is actually quite useful no matter which unix style OS your into. It helped me understand some things that i used daily , but never really fully understood.

Neil

got a URL for that Neil?

Hi there

It used to be here ... ( the mock test ) http://www.linux-praxis.de/lpi101sim/ , but now its gone

But maybe you will find it from here http://www.lpi.org/

Cheers

Neil

Originally posted by neonlexx
I have seen tons of kids around ages 13 to 16 with these brainbench certs and they can't even tell me what the OSI model is or what it stands for. They think that they actually hold something crediable. Atleast the microsoft, cisco, linux+ etc tests you have to study for and have randomized questions that you can't really cheat.

It's true about the tons with certs that don't know one end of their anatomy from the other. Unfortunaetly it has been my experience to run into a several of those sporting MSCE's as well.

Probably the two most respected certifications available at the moment are Cisco's and CISSP.

tim_p said:

Well, it is probably the only organized distribution of Linux and the only one that has a central support/errata/etc... No?


and i say:

uh no :)

well, you can say no all you want, but you don't give me any evidence?!!!

Oh no? but oh yes... RedHat powers mission critical enterprise more than any other distribution of Linux, and hands down more than any other operating system (for server usage, we're not talking about home desktops here).

Now, I'm pretty sure big boys like HP, Yahoo etc.. etc... can afford to hire some freeBSD developers to "hook them up" so to speak. Why do they go after RedHat?

RedHat has a large commercial following but lots of companies use slackware, debian and various other linux distros.

FreeBSD is also commonly used for mission critical applications as well.

not as much as RedHat though, and that was the point of my post ;)

Well, it is probably the only organized distribution of Linux and the only one that has a central support/errata/etc... No?

All distro's have errata and central support, even FreeBSD.

then why is RedHat charging for their product?

All distro's charge for their product, you can goto CompUSA and buy debian or suse...even slackware. They even come with support.

I also think I saw FreeBSD some time ago there as well.

RedHat is merely charging for updates now. Debian has a similiar updating system using apt-get, they aren't charging. FreeBSD uses cvs to do the samething, they aren't charging.....

Although offtopic I have to agree with neonlexx Redhat does not equal "Linux". If you don't like Redhat why would you move all the way over to Freebsd?

This could turn into a linux rant......I'll just quietly shake my head at the "posers". I'm sorry......