Hey has anyone tried onehost.ws??? i just want to know anything about them. what your opinions are and stuff.

thanks,
jc lopez

Seem to be based out of Singapore and dont list a contact phone number... make sure you are confident before handing over money.

yeh. its seems that they are over selling like 1gig space and 2 gig bandwidth for 90 cents. but do u think they could really provide me that? i know they hope i wont but i was just wondering.

Greetings,

Selling 1GB bandwidth for 90 cents cannot really be overselling. Some DCs are offering 1GB BW for 0.3 - 0.5 cents, thus the resellers can sell for that price as well.

Yesterday a member on WHT wrote kind of interesting algorithm:

Bandwidth x 0.4 = ? (If ? was greater than the price of provider, you better look for anotehr one)

Thats like offering 30GB bandwidth for US$4/month

30 x 0.4 = US$ 12. I liked that.


Bests,
Amir Golestan

If we sold 1 gig of transfer for 90c I can tell you it would be overselling, and that's without even factoring in fees, charges and support costs.

But yes, there are plenty of datacenters throwing wads of transfer around for next to nothing so maybe they are making a profit after all. The whole area of transfer has gone insane in the past 12 months so now anything is possible - quite a shame really.

Amir, you can make money selling at .90/gig if you are selling 40+ gig plans.
Selling 1 gig plans for .90 absolutely cannot be profitable.
You have transaction fees, you have to pay staff, taxes, etc. You can say they could make money with volume, but with volume comes the necessity for more staff, and higher server loads.

Greetings blue27,

What I have stated is concerning the DCs and not resellers or hosting providers. Moreover I totally agree with you that selling 1Gb plans are overselling. But if you read my post, I've mentioned an algorithm which was said by another member regarding DCs and in volume, not single GB of transfer.

Bests,
Amir Golestan

Yes, although the alogrithm concerning datacenters is probably accurate, the overselling occurs at the reseller level.

yeh the owner of onehost.ws did tell me that the servers are in the US and his company is in singapore.

so alright assuming that a reseller is overselling, could it be possible that he can provide the service that he offered? or do oversellers just hope their clients don't really use up the resources.

2 tell u the truth im already his client for about a month and a half now, no probelms what so ever and very very very quick customer support. almost like we are chatting. onehost is my very first paid hosting so i wanted to try out an affordable host first, so in case of trouble i only used up about $12. im going to stick with onehost for now and probably upgrade in the future.

what does it take to be a "reseller"? im just wondering coz i might do that as a side-line job.

thanks

First thing it takes is someone who doesn't just want to do it as a sideline job.

Originally posted by Amir
Greetings,

Selling 1GB bandwidth for 90 cents cannot really be overselling. Some DCs are offering 1GB BW for 0.3 - 0.5 cents, thus the resellers can sell for that price as well.

Yesterday a member on WHT wrote kind of interesting algorithm:

Bandwidth x 0.4 = ? (If ? was greater than the price of provider, you better look for anotehr one)

Thats like offering 30GB bandwidth for US$4/month

30 x 0.4 = US$ 12. I liked that.


Bests,
Amir Golestan

That was me :D

lol.

Greetings UltimeWWW,

Thats was kind of nice ones :-)

Bests,
Amir Golestan

Onepackage (http://onehost.ws/packages.php) that is interesting is the unlimited for 3.90 per month or similar.

There is a lot of talk about that word around here. Be careful. Perhaps the host will post here.

Originally posted by ttremeth
There is a lot of talk about that word around here. Be careful. Perhaps the host will post here.
No he won't ;)

He seems to have trouble getting banned from various forums for spam problems ;) figures

LOL. what happened again? did he get banned here too?? omg lol. he has two accts here one he recently registered for this june. what did he do? im just curious i really don't get he gets banned in forums.

There are several other hosts that have even more unbalanced storage space vs. bandwidth ratio... i've seen 100mb space with 2000mb bandwidth...

As for their site design, at least they have created a more unique website, unlike others I've seen that almost all look the same... look at itranquil.com, detailhosting.com, crediblehost.com, etc, etc, etc...

Although templates are great for hosts that are just starting out, I'd rather go with a host that has enough experience to be able to 1) pay for someone to design a decent website, or 2) be able to do one themselves... obviously the second choice is more favorable.

the fact they were banned on here means that the moderators of this site don't like them... nothing more, nothing less... i've heard a few accounts of people who are currently using them on this site and at freewebspace.net, and all of them say that onehost.ws have been reliable, fast, and friendly.

I've had some bad experiences with hosts, and honestly, I'd rather sign up for a plan that is cheap than risk signing up for something more expensive and having it fall through... again. My website's for a non-profit, so there's no way I can afford a dedicated server... so my options are limited.

In the end, you'll only lose $10.80 if things don't work as planned.

Originally posted by dunatar
the fact they were banned on here means that the moderators of this site don't like them... nothing more, nothing less...
Is that what Aaron told you? People are banned here for failing to follow the rules, nothing more, nothing less.

Obviously come here on the defence. He got banned from freewebspace.net because he decided to reply to posts that asked about his company after being banned once already for spam. He even admitted to designing the plans in mind that people won't use that amount of space with that amount of bandwidth.


"100mb space with 2000mb bandwidth..."


What is the problem with that? Certainly not nearly as close as 1000 mb space to 2000 mb bandwidth.


"My website's for a non-profit, so there's no way I can afford a dedicated server... so my options are limited."


Well his plans are so small that you would sign up for...so why in the world would you consider a dedicated server if those amounts of space worked for you?

Originally posted by dunatar


As for their site design, at least they have created a more unique website, unlike others I've seen that almost all look the same... look at itranquil.com, detailhosting.com, crediblehost.com, etc, etc, etc...


Some hosts prefer to put their money into support and better servers. Spending friviously on design comes secondary. ;)

true that.

yes i love onehost.ws

Greetings,

I believe In today's always-on world, a company's website is critical to its ability to compete and succeed.

Bests,
Amir Golestan

it shows the outside of a company, but what about in the inside?
btw i like your website i really do.

http://www.100mostdynamic.com/2003/profiles/r-HostMatix.asp

I'm not at all affiliated with any host whatsoever. I'm just a customer looking for a cheap deal (who isn't?).
As to my mentioning a dedicated server, it was for reliability, not size. I'd rather have less space and not worry about if my site is going down. If I can find a host that will offer space to grow into AND reliability, why wouldn't I choose it? I'm a consumer, and that's what consumers do...
The way your website looks and feels really is important, because if it's just like everyone elses... you won't be standing out from the crowd, and no one will remember you. I have surfed through at least 30 hosts today (looking for a replacement to my current problem), and I can honestly say that A LOT of them were close to the same (and in some cases identical). There are only a small handful that I remember clearly because of the way they looked, and the way information is presented. Frankly, it's ignorant to say that site design doesn't matter (and I'm NOT being condescending, just stating a fact). If site design didn't matter, everyone would use simple html with no pics, effects, tables, or anything.... and no one would use flash or dreamweaver or swish, etc...
I don't at all agree with hosts designing plans with the hope in mind that all the space and bandwidth won't be used... but from the stand point of the host, business is business - you should do what you have to do to make that sale. I would hope that you're account won't be shut down by actually reaching that limit.

Greetings carlo_l,

The one which is posted on 100mostdynamic.com is the previous design. The current design was launched June 1st, 2003.

Bests,
Amir Golestan

Well a site design certainly does not show anything about the host, I have known con artists to spend a small fortune on their website design. (Please note I am in no way calling onehost.ws or its owner a con artist in any way, I am just making an example). I just do not approve of people designing plans with the thought that no one will actually use everything. I also don't understand how he can make enough to stay running at all, he is obviously overselling the server, but yet it would take alot of plans to make a decent amount of income.

onehost.ws looks like a bunch of garbage. Anyone who hosts critical content with them deserves what they get once they inevitably go away.

can someone help me translate this??

http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=onehost.ws

it seems like onehost.ws is a reseller from cyberhostplus.biz??? am i reading this right? if that's true, it is possible for him to sell accounts for as little as 0.90 and make a profit.

yes they a reseller. so i guess no costs on maintaining or operating. the server is in the US. why are u so critical of onehost bizmarquee, stop calling them garbage.

I am critical of any company that undersells hosting services. Not only does it lower the veracity of that company, it gutpunches the market as a whole. There is such a thing as "value added pricing" and 90cents per month for web hosting services is way too cheap. From a business perspective, think about it. You are renting space on what is becoming the most popular medium in the world, and you're going to sell it at a deep discount? It lowers the value of hosting in general. It cheapens it. And nothing is no-cost in terms of maintaining or operating. If that's true then that means no one is monitoring the DC, no one is monitoring the server(s) and no one is backing anything up. Therefore the service is worth nothing. Plus you get what you pay for. You know, there are a good number of people who won't pay for a service because it's too cheap, out of fear. I am one of those people, myself. All in all, it just insults the industry as a whole to do stuff like that. The great judicial balance is that those companies will never survive. 10.00 per year is not legitimate revenue for any company unless you have thousands and thousands of customers, and then you're spread too thin. It all balances out, and it will work itself out. It's simply unsmart business practice.

I guess they got banned.... wonder why.
The immediately previous comment seems like an endorsement, sorta!
I'm giving 'em a spin, I think.
The dnsreport info could indicate what's been said above, or could indicate that someone copied their dns configuration and didn't customize that part. http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=cyberhostplus.biz
shows unrelated DNS servers.

Here are some of the sites they host. Looks like mostly spammers, to me. e.g*bulk*, *cash*, *money*, *profit*,... : server.beachcomber22.com 468bannerexchange.com 1-bulk-email-software.net 4besthost.com 10dollars20ads.com 1ezwebsite.com register.1ezwebsite.com 7dollarbusiness.com freetrafficblast.7dollarbusiness.com 800hitstrafficx.com acuhealthcare.com adfreestats.com advertisinganswers.co.uk ahbh.net al-baqar.com albhar.net mr.albhar.net ms.albhar.net mustfa.albhar.net aldoros.com aljorry.com alkhyaal.com alsaeednet.com altarf.org alwasatpc.com anakuwaity.com anjwa.com lamasatee.anjwa.com amasi.anjwa.com lamasat.anjwa.com appaloosa-acres.com auctionitusa.com annsweeten.com anakuwaity.net batteryvault.com bahraini4ever.com bostonbluesox.com bookofrememberance.com bryvo.com beforethefunding.com bulke-mailprogram.com bulkemailfinder.com bulkemailservices.net bulkmassmailer.com businessopinfo.com bizoppextreme.co.uk bahrainservers.com bizprofiler.com cashstreams4u.com boxmkrltd.cashstreams4u.com archives.cashstreams4u.com creations.cashstreams4u.com calgaryknights.com cashpointmail.com cgistation.com cheapesthits.com cheapesttraffic.com buyhits.cheapesttraffic.com christianclassifieds.co.uk classicliving.co.uk clickwages.com canmoreartgallery.com dianekelly.net digitaldesignstudios.net djsteviep.com dr-packer.com dumistan.com eureka24seven.com ezmoneypro.com etip-a-day.com ez-websites.biz e-mail-finder.net e4h.com ebookblowout.com ebookranch.com ecthomes.com efree4u.com egraphicscity.com emarealtor.com extremehits.co.uk ezcashonline.com esphigmenou.com fundraisingfulltime.com fiveoclockworld.com fajr-1.com fastcashlover.com filonenko.net freeautosurf.com gonowto.us guaranteedhits.co.uk guide4.net freeads.ws freestyleads.com greta.ca freetraffic4u.com member.freetraffic4u.com products.freetraffic4u.com hostingsit.com ns1.hostingsit.com ns2.hostingsit.com hostingpinoy.com imassradio.com inetlang.com teachers.inetlang.com jamaicasportsvacations.com johnhomebiz.com jgservices.com johnkayinc.com arab2top.com kelownatv.com hostingwonder.com hhahsjd.com laceblowjobs.com shop.laceblowjobs.com makemoney-workathome.com mlmleaders.org myultimatepromotions.com money4u2retire.com lincolntrailriders.com lord2000.net mail-bomber.net manxlife.com marketing4arab.com medidentpr.com mentors.ws rental.mentors.ws mlmentor.org mlmreport.com mndd.com mobstermemos.com bahrainservice.com myprosubmitter.com zaxxx.com newcomputers.us neasecomputer.com oursafelist.com profitplanhosting.com path2money.com petespipes.com profitfrommail.com pmedia.us yourroad2riches.com yourroadtoriches.net yourroadtoriches.com

*********** review: unacceptable.

uptime on my *********** box:
1:06pm up 2:11, 3 users, load average: 154.16, 151.86, 136.55

Neeless to say, almost nothing works. ftp is impossible (times out) etc.

Support issue logged hasn't addressed the problem and remains open; the load keeps being ridiculous; it's been days.

You get what you pay for?

Last colum is 5 minute load average.
(from
00:00:02 runq-sz plist-sz ldavg-1 ldavg-5
00:14:23 1 597 174.93 120.13
00:27:45 0 851 210.05 195.46
00:35:41 4 802 227.22 224.26
00:40:01 1 399 13.47 115.68
00:50:01 4 456 5.10 23.16
01:00:08 27 422 9.39 11.14
01:15:44 10 673 136.73 100.66
01:39:16 0 1047 291.17 268.01
01:58:16 0 1146 310.45 320.77
02:02:26 1 1108 301.22 308.80
02:05:29 2 650 183.95 278.12
02:05:44 1 588 148.95 265.78
02:10:01 4 381 9.14 119.46
02:20:00 8 383 1.56 18.51
:angry:

Just wondering, but why go dig this old thread up about a banned host?

many threads in same meaning .. overselling!?

i do not know why ppl not see the ev1servers sell 700gb for $100?

thats is $.14/gb ... so if host sell 2gb for $.9 then its still good ..

Originally posted by CrazyTech
Just wondering, but why go dig this old thread up about a banned host?
I think it's obvious.
Providing info people can use.
I wonder why you ask :D

It goes much deeper than that. They may not have the cheapest Celeron1.4 GHz plan at Rackshack. You also have to factor in costs. Once you factor this in you see profit margin is very very skinny to virtually none.

IMHO Very bad company from Singapore, because:

1. Bad uptime, about 85-90%. :bawling:
2. Bad response time to emails.
3. Ignore customer wants. (my 2 wants: buy more brandwidth ant custom 509 error page).
4. Bad knowledge. :confused:
5. Bad security (my site was hacked).
6. Server overload every minute.

God is only price and speed. :rolleyes:


Sorry for my bad english.
Tomas

Tomas, feel free to start a new thread regarding this company. These are quite old :)