Want to start your own dedicated server farm? Here's the opportunity.
Show the other guys how a dedicated server farm *should* be run......

We just signed for a new 10MB connection and ordered a DS-3 to replace the one we have.
In celebration of of our new-found speed and pipe, I'm offering a deal through the end of the July for a full rack and a T-1 (1.5MB) burstable to 5MB for $1000.00 mo. This includes power and 2 ethernet drops to your rack, IP's as needed. DNS access available, also backups, monitoring, spare parts on site.
Workstations and all the usual bells and whistles , Diet coke and Mountain Dew usually in the fridge, Shane likes Starcraft and Erich's on icq or coding most of the time.
Have a look around our site and drop me a line if your interested.


Tom

That's a pretty good deal. Do you have a setup fee?

2 Stupid Questions........
How many 1U servers can u fit in a Rack?
Can We say get 3-4 people and split it?

i think you can fit 10 units in a rack, 1.75" each i think

Originally posted by creid
2 Stupid Questions........
How many 1U servers can u fit in a Rack?
Can We say get 3-4 people and split it?

An average rack is around 45U. But you'll probably need at least 5U for remote reboot/power/switches. So about 40 1U servers.

Wow! My first sales droid post that worked!

Anyway, 2 things - if we need to we can take this offline to keep the moderators happy, or here if that's your preference.

A rack is about 45U useable. I have a 2U case that does not play well with some others, so I had juggle or lose a U.

Our power system *is* a UPS/generator. The whole place runs on inverted AC. A UPS will actually cause problems and can't be used - harmonics.... telnetable power strips are the way to go, IMHO.

If multiple folks want to go in, that's fine. As long as the bill gets paid. There will only be one contract.

If folks want 1/4 or 1/2, drop me a line and we'll work something out. (Never done 1/4 before...):D

Did I leave anything out?

Tom

Tom,

A few questions:

1) Where is your facility located?

2) Will we have 24/7 access to our rack for our own staff to visit? Keycard/biometrics? Etc?

3) What if we need more than 1.5 mbps?

4) Are you staffed 24/7 with someone who is capable/authorized to reboot one of our servers if we phone in to request it?

Thanks,

Jason

Originally posted by Jason Ellis
Tom,

A few questions:

Jason

1) Where is your facility located?



Dallas, Tx. Deep Ellum , great restaurants and bars a few blocks away.

2) Will we have 24/7 access to our rack for our own staff to visit? Keycard/biometrics? Etc?

Yes, we have 7/24 access. Keycards, no biometrics.

3) What if we need more than 1.5 mbps?

You just pay for it. Overage billing is on our website, contract rates are lower.

4) Are you staffed 24/7 with someone who is capable/authorized to reboot one of our servers if we phone in to request it?

No. 8-5 M-F on-site and 24/7 on-call. We supply our single-machine customers with a telnetable power strip for remote reboots. They aren't cheap, but it saves on service calls.

Thanks,



Oh, and setup is $300.00 initially, first and last months rent, machine racking is $25.00/hr. if we do it.
No charge if you do (that was humor - of COURSE theres no charge if you rack your own box.)
;)

Do u got a number I can reach you at?I am extremly interested. Do U have ICQ?

Originally posted by tom.oneil
No. 8-5 M-F on-site and 24/7 on-call. We supply our single-machine customers with a telnetable power strip for remote reboots. They aren't cheap, but it saves on service calls.


You should consider going 24/7, or at least 8AM-12AM. We've found it helps a lot, especially since a lot of dedicated/colo customers work during the day and mess with their servers at night (5PM - 10PM is busy usually).

Originally posted by creid
Do u got a number I can reach you at?I am extremly interested. Do U have ICQ?

Don't have ICQ, but call the office at 1888-249-4081 and say you want a full rack - they will pull me out of the shower!

Tom

Originally posted by Planet Z


You should consider going 24/7, or at least 8AM-12AM. We've found it helps a lot, especially since a lot of dedicated/colo customers work during the day and mess with their servers at night (5PM - 10PM is busy usually).

As soon as I can find a sys admin I can afford who will work those hours I will.:)

All of the employees are skilled sys and network admins, can't afford the trainees yet.

We've actually played with the idea of going after the hobbyist and resellers markets, the folks that use OCTSNBNLISAFW(1), simply because I think we can do a better job.

I know we run a first-class colo for the pros because we unerstand them - I came out of 20 years as a sys admin for various Really Big Corporations.

Tom


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Originally posted by tom.oneil
1) Where is your facility located?


Dallas, Tx. Deep Ellum , great restaurants and bars a few blocks away.


Ah, well - your deal seemed good, but not in a location I could use.

If you ever open a facility in the Los Angeles metro region (or know of any already there) drop me a line. Even something as far away as Las Vegas might be interesting, but TX is just too far a drive for my tech guy.

Thanks,

Jason

How many gb's a bandwidth can i get out of that line?
Do you Have Cpanel there?

Chris

Originally posted by creid
How many gb's a bandwidth can i get out of that line?
Do you Have Cpanel there?

Chris

I think this was directed at me .....

A T-1 is 1.5 MB, and a number I heard was 420GB. Anyone?
I really don't know, we just started selling BW based on GB. Usually sell it the way we buy it, based on MB.

We have not installed Cpanel, still deciding if we want to get into the managed/dedicated colo business. Up till now we have the power and ping guys, providing monitoring, backups and DNS as extra services because they are a good match and we don't compete with our clients that way.

I am wary of being in competition with my customers, present and future. It's why I moved colo's when we ran the ISP, and I am not comfortable with even the perception of it.
(Yes, I advertise domain hosting, but $29.95/mo., if I get 'em, I deserve 'em!)

If we decide to go head-to-head with OCTSNBNLISAFW(1), I will most likely post here looking for suggestions about cpanel, webmin, etc..

Tom


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originally posted by tom.oneil
A T-1 is 1.5 MB, and a number I heard was 420GB. Anyone?

T1 @ 1.544 mbps is 488.513 GB / month at saturation less protocol overhead so a practical ceiling would probably be about 390 GB / month.

Originally posted by NyteOwl


T1 @ 1.544 mbps is 488.513 GB / month at saturation less protocol overhead so a practical ceiling would probably be about 390 GB / month.


Thanks! Curious about the math, though. Do you have the algorithm for calculating overhead?


Tom/updating the website soon....

Originally posted by tom.oneil



Thanks! Curious about the math, though. Do you have the algorithm for calculating overhead?



It depends on the protocol.
The math is the same, you've just got to get Megabits per second converted into Gigabytes per month.

8 bits = 1 Byte
1 Gigabyte = 1,024 Megabytes
1 month = 2,628,000 seconds

Best case scenario:
1.544 Mbps = 495.31640625 GB / month

1.544 / 8 = 0.193 | (This is now 0.193 Megabytes per second) |
0.193 * 2,628,000 = 507204 (Megabytes per month)
507204 / 1024 = 495.31640625 (Gigabytes per month)

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If your protocol uses a 1 bit channel synchronization signal, your net usable bandwidth is 1.528 Mbps

1.528 / 8 * 2,628,000 / 1024 = 490.18359375 GB / month

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Some protocols use an 8 bits for channel synchronization, leaving only 1.472 Mbps of available bandwidth.

1.472 / 8 * 2,628,000 / 1024 = 472.21875 GB / month

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Taking NyteOwl's "real world" figures of 488.513 GB / month at face value means he is using a protocol that leaves 1.523Mbps (OR his reference uses a different variable for seconds / month... Leap years?)

488.513 *1024 / 2,628,000 * 8 = 1.523 Mbps

He then says a T1 has "a practical ceiling" of 390 GB / month

390 * 1024 / 2,628,000 * 8 = 1.216 Mbps

1.523 - 1.216 = .307 Mbps of loss = change of -20.158%
488.513 - 390 = 98.513 GB / month loss = change of -20.166%

So NyteOwl is using an overhead loss factor of approximately 20%.

Wow. Thanks, I appreciate it. I am assuming that the overhead numbers are for a single T-1.
The only one of those I have is in the office and we don't have any production or customer machines there. So with no overhead taken away, it is somewhere between 470 and 488 GB.....
Having a hard time selling bandwidth this way.....maybe 'cause I never bought it or buy it this way.


Tom
:)