At what point does a company move up the scale.

Would this be close?

Small Host - 0 - 100 Domains?

Med Host - 100-2000 - Domains

Large Host - 2000-10000 Domains

Huge Host - 10000 + Domains

Just trying to get a grip on size of hosting firms.

Silly question, I know.

Small Host 0 - 500 accounts
Med 500 - 20,000 accounts
Large 20,000-200,000 accounts
Huge 200,000 +

Use accounts, because sometimes I'll have up to 15 domains for the same site, doesn't really mean that host is any bigger.

Also don't count the reseller's account as your own accounts.

But more domains = more servers.

Shouldnt the amount of server resources be considered in the equation?

For example.

Lets take httpme.com, great company.

Client numbers are small as he is a resellers host. Revenue per reseller is higher than virtual accounts, thus he has more servers and less clients.

Make sense?

Not really, only accounts. Admittedly you might be using a lot of server resources, but the way most people class a host is by number of clients. That shows how reliable they are, as well as how big the company is.

Ok say I do reseller accounts.

I have 15,000 accounts @ 45.0/month. Im turning a gross sales number of around $675,000 per month or $8.1M in yearly sales.

You would call that a Medium Size Hosting firm under your guise?

Yes...other webhosts generate above $100M, e.g. UK2 have sold over 1 million domains in the last 2 years alone. At roughly £10 a head, thats £10M ($16M) alone from domains, nevermind games hosting, shared hosting, and their dedicated servers.

I wouldnt count customers but revenue/profit

# of customers means nothing but bragging rights.

Originally posted by MarcD
I wouldnt count customers but revenue/profit

# of customers means nothing but bragging rights.

Bragging Rights are very valuable in sales pitches. However, I would agree with you.

Indeed, which is why its often nice to give hosting away to a few people to get your customer # up a lil :)

Exactly one host can say we have 1200 more customers than this company


Then more than likely it would be a reply with. That is ture however we have 1 1/2 yeras operating cash reserve and you pay month by month.

If something happens to that host they might go under =)



In regards to the free accounts I wouldnt add those in I am sure many people do but doesnt mean much to me.

Originally posted by TotalChoice
I have 15,000 accounts @ 45.0/month. Im turning a gross sales number of around $675,000 per month or $8.1M in yearly sales.


Well done!

Though your domain name was only registered 8 Jan 2003, and your account traced to prioritycolo.

Of course I'm sure you can clear the misunderstanding on my part up for us.

Does size really matter?

Someone just had to ask :)

I think he was just posting an example (made up) I hope. :)

- John C.

I would think a gross revenue scale would be better.

Less than $10,000/month small
$10,000-50,000/month medium
$50,000-100,000/month large
$100,000+/month Extreme

I think you've just got to find your own little place in the sun and do the very best by your clients and not worry too much about how big you are compared to those around you. It's probably why I don't feel competitive with anyone else. Just too busy enjoying the sun on our own little patch near the river. :)

Originally posted by quincyhost69
Does size really matter?

Many times I've been told that size doesn't matter.

They're just being nice Hugh. :) j/k

It really doesn't matter what size you are. You should always strive to improve your business and your profits, but don't extend yourseldf so much that you lose site of short term *and* long term goals.

Unless you have major VC behind you, work a bit at a time and build a solid foundation before even worrying about anything else.

You forgot the line preceeding your quote:

"Ok say I do reseller accounts."

Originally posted by akashik
Well done!

Though your domain name was only registered 8 Jan 2003, and your account traced to prioritycolo.

Of course I'm sure you can clear the misunderstanding on my part up for us.

What happens when your reseller manages to get more customers that you have and then moves them all away to his or her own dedicated servers?

Originally posted by akashik
Well done!

Though your domain name was only registered 8 Jan 2003, and your account traced to prioritycolo.

Of course I'm sure you can clear the misunderstanding on my part up for us.

You took my post out of context. My post was an example. "Lets say I do reseller accounts."

Heck if I had that kinda of revenue, I wouldnt be posting on WHT. I would be near that river enjoying the sun with Aussie Bob. :D

Heck if I had that kinda of revenue, I wouldnt be posting on WHT. I would be near that river enjoying the sun with Aussie Bob. :D

:D i would be swimming as well :blush:

Originally posted by mpalamar
I would think a gross revenue scale would be better.

Less than $10,000/month small
$10,000-50,000/month medium
$50,000-100,000/month large
$100,000+/month Extreme

Even that seems on the low end for large+ hosts, there are most likely a 'lot' of hosts that make alot more than that.

-Brendan

Does this size matter? I consider me as big but I'm certainly not if I look around :)

Originally posted by bitserve
What happens when your reseller manages to get more customers that you have and then moves them all away to his or her own dedicated servers?
Ya talking to me, punk? :D

Our core business is not the reseller market, but for our clients who are resellers, I would hope that their goal is to move to a dedicated platform. Although this transition is not simple and comes down to whether they have the time and money to sysadmin their own server/s 24x7.

For the reseller market, we breed our own competitors and when they have the revenue levels, they fly away to their own servers. We're not the slight bit interested in supplying dedicated servers. Too much responsibility for too little revenue. Our niche is the Multiple Domain market and this is where we need to stay focussed.

Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Ya talking to me, punk? :D

Whoever wanted to reply. :) I was wondering if everyone would skip over my post. Thanks for not.

Hello,

1 small adjustment.

JR Host - 0 - 99
Small Host 100 - 10000 accounts
Med 10000 - 20,000 accounts
Large 20,000-200,000 accounts
Huge 200,000 +

;)