Hi I have read a few threads about *****, on here, but I find good things and bad things. I think one of my fav web sites works on ***** studentfilms.com. so please anyone who is now or has hosted with them, please tell me what you think of them?

thank you
Jason Miller

I was with them for a while via a reseller. I had a lot of problems with the reseller, but relatively few with CI.

BUT! Apparently their billing department is a mess, and I was fortunate enough to go through the reseller's billing dept and not CI.

Actually, now I think about it, there was a lot more downtime than I would have liked. Sometimes for 1 day + at a time.

grrr, no comment, do a search :angry: :angry:

***** = SH1T-CO (i like that one) :D

Stay away from them. Hopeless client support.

Mariano

They have some of the worst comments even i've heard..

They're at it again. Spamming us web hosts trying to get us to switch to their hosting service... ugh.. Here's the e-mail - Woo hoo, I can get 3000MB of web space for $20 !! WOW!!!! yeah right.

Hello,

My name is Brent Davis and I am a sales representative at *****. I am contacting you after visiting your website. I
wanted to introduce our organization, ***** (http://www.*****.com). ***** is a top rated web hosting company,
servicing over 105,000 websites worldwide and thrives in an industry that is constantly reinventing itself. With innovations
in customer service, ease of use, and special features for all ***** customers, we continue to stay one step ahead of the
competition. That is why companies like Lay-Z-Boy, Ethyl M. Chocolates, GTE, Del Monte Foods, The Salvation Army, McDonalds,
The United States Department of Commerce, Shimano and Sierra Software have chosen ***** services., Because you host on a
competitors network, I have been authorized to make a special, one-time offer to you. First, let me give you some
information about our web hosting plans:


Both UNIX and Windows 2000 platforms available
Instant setup (30 seconds or less)
50 to 10,000 Megabytes of web space
Unlimited Website Traffic/Hits
Unlimited E-mail Account with Unlimited Forwarders/Auto-responders
Microsoft FrontPage 2000/2002
Majordomo, 15 pre-installed CGI scripts,
mSQL, mySQL and SQL 2000 databases
12 - Unlimited FTP Accounts with Telnet/SSH Access
CGI/Perl, Miva, PHP4, PGP, and ASP
Allaire ColdFusion 5 and LiveStats reporting
Free web site design with our SiteMonster software (complete design within 20 minutes)
Cybercash, Server Side Includes, web-based control panel
24x7 toll-free and live online chat support
5 DS-3 and OC-3 connections to 5 redundant fiber carriers (over 425Mbits of provisioned bandwidth)
Daily backups, 30 day money back guarantee and 99.9% guaranteed uptime with written SLA

Take a look at our MonsterControls web-based provisioning tool. This is complimentary software
is provided to all clients and allows for easy configuration, setup and administration of your web hosting account and all
features it contains. Easily configure search engines, bulletin boards, POP3 e-mail accounts, chat-rooms, look at your
invoices and account statements online, open up an research trouble tickets and much more! Go to
http://monstercontrolstest.*****.com/cgi-bin/monstercontrols
for more details and a live demonstration of this extraordinary software.

My special offer to you is that I can waive your setup fee on every domain you transfer to ***** from a competing web
hosting company! Look at our special offers - 3000 MEGABYTES OF STORAGE SPACE FOR $20/MONTH. Your current web hosting
company is not even offering you half that. In addition, if you pre-pay yearly I will add in one of our special free gifts.
Go to http://www.*****.com/?zone=promo/home to learn more about these incredible free offers. Just use the promotion code
"REFUGEE" when placing an order online at
http://www.*****.com/?zone=products/limited_time_refugee


Above all, you will get quality web hosting from an industry leader. Pricing starts at only $9.95 per month, We extend a
30 day money-back guarantee to all new customers, so you
have nothing to risk. Call me at 1.888-868-9931 ext.4 and I will be happy to answer any
questions you may have. If you would like to sign-up on-line, go to
http://www.*****.com/?zone=products/limited_time_refugee
to place your order. I apologize if this e-mail has offended you. If you
wish to not receive any more emails from me, visit
http://www.*****.com/?zone=products/remove
and I will not e-mail you again. Otherwise, I hope to hear from you soon!


Sincerely,

Brent Davis
Sales Representative
brentd@*****.com
sales@*****.com
http://www.*****.com


PS. ***** also provides Managed dedicated servers UNIX and Windows 2000 platforms for as low as $59/month; private
label reseller programs and complete web site creation I would be happy to assist you in moving to a dedicated hosting
platform and/or answer any questions you might have about any of our other services!
http://www.*****.com/?zone=products/limited_time_refugee

***** will match any competitor offer for comparable web hosting. If we can't we will pay you $1000!

Hidden fees & piss-poor technical support.
I was with them quite awhile back, and all the support people I spoke to seemed like trainees.

Awful tech support, they didn't know the difference between a sub-domain and a folder :angry:

I think the votes are in ! !

:( :eek:

Hi,

I have a been a faithful customer of OLM.net for a few years and they have been great. I really don't know much about *****, but I do know that they spam me all the time. A company that has to spam to get customers is not a company for me.

helexia

Originally posted by Mike

That is why companies like Lay-Z-Boy, Ethyl M. Chocolates, GTE, Del Monte Foods, The Salvation Army, McDonalds,
The United States Department of Commerce, Shimano and Sierra Software have chosen ***** services.,

Uhh...chosen, and then cancelled perhaps?

*****:

traceroute to www.*****.com (63.249.159.33), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 gw.iad.version12.net (63.80.246.1) 1.236 ms 1.684 ms 1.178 ms
2 206.112.71.125 (206.112.71.125) 1.064 ms 0.975 ms 0.945 ms
3 206.112.64.35 (206.112.64.35) 0.971 ms 0.930 ms 0.893 ms
4 0.so-1-0-0.WR1.IAD6.Alter.Net (157.130.59.77) 0.923 ms 1.317 ms 0.897 ms
5 0.so-5-3-0.XR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.109) 2.010 ms 2.000 ms 1.997 ms
6 POS6-0.BR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET (146.188.162.209) 1.942 ms 1.897 ms 2.056 ms
7 wdc-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.4.69) 138.553 ms 137.972 ms 140.277 ms
8 wdc-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.24.69) 141.820 ms 143.424 ms 147.406 ms
9 iah-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.187) 180.435 ms 184.183 ms 180.194 ms
10 dal-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.122) 184.451 ms 185.369 ms 181.111 ms
11 dal-edge-07.inet.qwest.net (205.171.25.54) 188.519 ms 183.962 ms 168.206 ms
12 ci-dfw-Oc3.cust.qwest.net (65.112.176.18) 863.010 ms 42.356 ms 43.533 ms
13 gi4.core.propagation.net (66.34.255.2) 41.471 ms 42.262 ms 41.623 ms
14 *****.com (63.249.159.33) 42.022 ms 41.532 ms 42.152 ms



traceroute to www.mcdonalds.com (208.229.230.223), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 gw.iad.version12.net (63.80.246.1) 1.239 ms 1.179 ms 1.173 ms
2 206.112.71.125 (206.112.71.125) 1.135 ms 0.970 ms 0.959 ms
3 206.112.64.36 (206.112.64.36) 0.961 ms 4.780 ms 0.907 ms
4 0.so-0-0-0.WR2.IAD6.Alter.Net (157.130.59.73) 1.147 ms 1.267 ms 1.062 ms
5 0.so-5-3-0.XR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.113) 2.322 ms 2.244 ms 2.236 ms
6 288.ATM7-0.XR2.DCA1.ALTER.NET (146.188.163.29) 2.584 ms 2.614 ms 2.873 ms
7 194.ATM6-0.GW4.DCA1.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.73) 2.400 ms 2.460 ms 2.379 ms
8 260.GW1.TCO3.customer.ALTER.NET (157.130.33.222) 3.511 ms 3.515 ms 3.549 ms
9 prod-151a.tco3.web.wcom.net (208.229.230.201) 3.764 ms * 3.644 m


traceroute to www.delmonte.com (207.12.112.131), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 gw.iad.version12.net (63.80.246.1) 1.334 ms 1.386 ms 1.494 ms
2 206.112.71.125 (206.112.71.125) 1.067 ms 0.966 ms 0.947 ms
3 206.112.64.36 (206.112.64.36) 0.961 ms 1.156 ms 0.884 ms
4 0.so-1-0-0.WR2.IAD6.Alter.Net (157.130.59.81) 1.127 ms 1.100 ms 1.053 ms
5 0.so-5-3-0.XR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.113) 2.271 ms 2.314 ms 2.242 ms
6 POS7-0.BR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.193) 1.984 ms 2.083 ms 2.549 ms
7 sl-bb20-rly-6-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.169) 4.303 ms 6.421 ms 5.623 ms
8 144.232.14.118 (144.232.14.118) 4.815 ms 4.457 ms 4.322 ms
9 144.232.14.133 (144.232.14.133) 4.346 ms 4.735 ms 4.418 ms
10 sl-bb22-sj-6-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.125) 68.668 ms 68.633 ms 68.576 ms
11 sl-bb21-stk-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.8.41) 73.282 ms 73.273 ms 73.512 m
s
12 sl-gw9-stk-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.27.14) 73.330 ms 73.327 ms 73.258 ms
13 sl-edsdel-2-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.145.70) 81.158 ms 84.141 ms 81.477 ms
14 * * *
15 * * *
16 * * *


traceroute to www.gte.com (205.181.115.143), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 gw.iad.version12.net (63.80.246.1) 1.285 ms 1.179 ms 1.243 ms
2 206.112.71.125 (206.112.71.125) 1.059 ms 0.967 ms 0.960 ms
3 206.112.64.35 (206.112.64.35) 0.984 ms 1.070 ms 0.958 ms
4 0.so-1-0-0.WR1.IAD6.Alter.Net (157.130.59.77) 0.936 ms 0.912 ms 0.917 ms
5 0.so-5-3-0.XR1.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.109) 2.003 ms 2.025 ms 2.207 ms
6 POS6-0.BR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.189) 2.387 ms 1.893 ms 1.871 ms
7 204.255.168.174 (204.255.168.174) 3.213 ms 2.798 ms 2.436 ms
8 so-3-2-0.washdc3-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.25) 2.776 ms 2.720 ms 2.614 ms
9 p9-0.phlapa1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.186) 7.930 ms 7.848 ms 7.821 ms
10 p15-0.phlapa1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.89) 7.889 ms 7.769 ms 7.999 ms
11 p13-0.nycmny1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.178) 7.945 ms 7.860 ms 7.759 ms
12 p6-0.bstnma1-br1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.6.49) 13.780 ms 13.861 ms 13.850 ms
13 p6-1.cambridge1-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.6.245) 14.547 ms 14.453 ms 14.251 m
s
14 p1-1.camcolo-dbe2.bbnplanet.net (4.0.5.230) 14.629 ms 14.576 ms 14.481 ms
15 vlan40.camcolo-isw01-rc1.bbnplanet.net (128.11.194.67) 14.780 ms 14.801 ms
14.695 ms
16 205.181.115.143 (205.181.115.143) 14.635 ms 14.784 ms 14.771 ms


traceroute to OSECNT06.osec.doc.gov (204.193.246.9), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 gw.iad.version12.net (63.80.246.1) 1.293 ms 1.197 ms 1.249 ms
2 206.112.71.125 (206.112.71.125) 1.280 ms 0.964 ms 1.004 ms
3 206.112.64.52 (206.112.64.52) 0.973 ms 1.137 ms 0.887 ms
4 0.so-1-0-0.WR2.IAD6.Alter.Net (157.130.59.81) 1.642 ms 1.118 ms 1.059 ms
5 0.so-5-3-0.XR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.37.113) 2.290 ms 2.250 ms 2.217 ms
6 POS7-0.BR2.DCA8.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.193) 2.027 ms 2.016 ms 2.905 ms
7 204.255.168.174 (204.255.168.174) 2.391 ms 2.760 ms 2.369 ms
8 so-3-2-0.washdc3-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.10.25) 2.684 ms 2.701 ms 2.804 ms
9 p1-0.washdc3-cr10.bbnplanet.net (4.24.8.122) 2.415 ms 2.536 ms 2.875 ms
10 h0.docos.bbnplanet.net (4.24.205.42) 42.349 ms 36.099 ms 34.494 ms
11 * * *
12 * * *
13 * * *

lol, traceroute is such a simple utility for uncovering such frauds, maybe we should report them again for spamming lies ?

A great idea, someone make a package, 30001 megs, 19.99 a month, then you get 1000 dollars

So if I understand you all, your saying stay away from *****?

thats a retorical quistion by the way

thank you
Jason Miller

In agree that traceroute is good for figuring out what host someone is using, but some companies may use more than one. They might host their main informational site with a different company than they use for a web app or the site of one of their divisions.

Of course, as others have said, those could be former customers...

I wonder if those companies listed in the e-mail know that their names are being linked to a disreputable host?
If not, perhaps they would like to know.

maybe you just don't know which parts of those companies sites are listed with the above named provider

Originally posted by joonixluser
maybe you just don't know which parts of those companies sites are listed with the above named provider

Of course that's always possible...but I have trouble believing that GTE, which is owned by Verizon -- a company that has it's own hosting division, hosts any part of their site with *****.

I could be wrong...but it is still suspect.

Traceroute Output
FROM mail-abuse.org TO *****.com.

traceroute to *****.com (63.249.159.33), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 inside.fwrcb.isc.org (204.152.187.253) 0.271 ms 0.264 ms 0.739 ms
2 dot1.orrc1.unnwo.net (192.5.4.147) 0.599 ms 0.414 ms 0.410 ms
3 rwc1.orrc2.unnwo.net (192.5.4.130) 0.874 ms 0.683 ms 0.514 ms
4 pa4b.orpa3.unnwo.net (204.152.184.211) 1.987 ms 2.235 ms 2.112 ms
5 paxbrdr01.inet.qwest.net (198.32.176.52) 2.455 ms 2.774 ms 2.442 ms
6 svl-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.1.85) 2.770 ms 2.518 ms 2.864 ms
7 svl-core-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.14.109) 3.363 ms 3.312 ms 2.796 ms
8 kcm-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.8.138) 38.031 ms 38.008 ms 37.934 ms
9 kcm-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.29.126) 37.913 ms 37.992 ms 38.333 ms
10 dal-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.203) 53.070 ms 53.085 ms 53.110 ms
11 dal-edge-07.inet.qwest.net (205.171.25.58) 52.927 ms 53.024 ms 52.981 ms
12 ci-dfw-Oc3.cust.qwest.net (65.112.176.18) 77.370 ms 77.522 ms 77.276 ms
13 gi4.core.propagation.net (66.34.255.2) 77.506 ms 77.482 ms 77.847 ms
14 *****.com (63.249.159.33) 84.981 ms 78.151 ms 78.325 ms

Hey all,

I'm just wondering if anyone has ever tried to get them to beat a deal or get $1000.

I tried once, about 1 month ago. I called up ***** on the phone, and asked them to beat a web host who offered 1500mb of space and 20 gigs transfer per month for 19.95 per month.

They told me to email a person that takes care of "price matching", so I did.

Well, I did everything they told me to, sent numerous emails to this person, and 1 month later, still no response. So is this another attempt to look good in the hosting biz, while they are only actually trying to advertise things they cannot deliver?

Help me out here.. i wanna see if someone can actually see if they will match or beat the price.

Regards,
Nick

The only reason that a co. offers so much for so less is that they don't expect their users to use that much, only a slight fraction of it. Therefore, the co. could then rollover the unused bandwidth/space to another client.

Maybe it's just me but I'd be very wary of such hosts who offer such 'attractive and unbelievable' plans.