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View Full Version : And the nominees are... (finals)
Musaca 06-14-2003, 04:38 PM a i h s .net
adjkhost.com
crazytechnology.com
crediblehost.com
dathorn.com
fastburst.com
jiffynet.net
lypha.com
powweb.com
psshosting.com
mysitesonline.com
schostpro.com
vonetwork.com
inmotionhosting.com
lunarpages.com
domainandhosting.net
worldwebhosters.com
planetshosting.com
vnpixel.com
cirtexhosting.com
If anyone knows anything about these web host, please feel free to offer your advice or feedback.
Please no price bashing, unless you; yourself have used them before!
Thanks! :)
Martie 06-14-2003, 04:42 PM Im just curious, LOL...with so many co. to check out have you utilized the search function tool here in the forum?
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php?s=
Just type co. name in, and past feedback will result if there is any.
Have fun...you have QUITE a list there.:D
Musaca 06-14-2003, 04:48 PM Originally posted by Martie
Im just curious, LOL...with so many co. to check out have you utilized the search function tool here in the forum?
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/search.php?s=
Just type co. name in, and past feedback will result if there is any.
Have fun...you have QUITE a list there.:D
YES, I have reviewed some of them using the search, but would much like getting feedback from people who may have used them "now".
Also, as I said, without the price bashing.
Edit: I'd also like to add, that some of these can only be found in the "request" part of the forum, so user feedback is always helpful.
CrazyTech 06-14-2003, 04:50 PM Well just from my personal experiences and hearing ALOT of good things about them, you cannot seem to go wrong with dathorn.
drmaximus 06-14-2003, 05:01 PM I have been with them for a year, so feel entitled to make this comment. Compared to what is offered now in the host market, PowWeb seems to have fallen behind in the super competitive race. I have not had many server problems with them, but it's relatively more expensive and customer service can be slow and sometimes pompous at the forum. They were once a leader in the field, but if the pricing doesn't improve, I think they might fall behind. They lost me - I am not renewing - because they have this weird rule of 15,000 maximum files even though I have hardly used 50% of the allocated 650mb space. FWIW.
Musaca 06-14-2003, 05:50 PM Originally posted by drmaximus
I have been with them for a year, so feel entitled to make this comment. Compared to what is offered now in the host market, PowWeb seems to have fallen behind in the super competitive race. I have not had many server problems with them, but it's relatively more expensive and customer service can be slow and sometimes pompous at the forum. They were once a leader in the field, but if the pricing doesn't improve, I think they might fall behind. They lost me - I am not renewing - because they have this weird rule of 15,000 maximum files even though I have hardly used 50% of the allocated 650mb space. FWIW.
:eek: Wow, I didn't know that! Only 15,000 files, huh? If you don't mind me asking, what is your site & why so many files?
drmaximus 06-14-2003, 06:10 PM It's only a personal site, about 300mb in size. It has a lot of my travel pictures and since I travel very extensively, I have more than 6000 pics so far, with each pic having 3 files (html, thumbnail and original). Numerous files, but all very small in size. That's why I left them. 15000 files is unacceptable.
ENSupport 06-14-2003, 07:45 PM Lunar pages great i used them back in 2002
I've been with CredibleHost for a while now, great everything. Speed, Support, Reliability.. the works o_o!
Musaca 06-14-2003, 11:19 PM The follow are now down for the count .... ie ... rejected! This is not to say, that these host do not offer great & friendly service, rather then at this time, they do not meet our needs.
I started with a list of 102 web host, it about time I start cutting that down. lol
a i h s.net
fastburst.com
lypha.com
powweb.com
schostpro.com
inmotionhosting.com
lunarpages.com
domainandhosting.net
I'd like to personally thank the above web host for your time & I commend you on your willingness to help me find a host for my own needs.
This leaves only the following....
adjkhost.com
crazytechnology.com
crediblehost.com
dathorn.com
jiffynet.net
psshosting.com
mysitesonline.com
vonetwork.com
worldwebhosters.com
planetshosting.com
vnpixel.com
cirtexhosting.com
If anyone has any details about these host, please feel free to inform me.
Thank you! :)
TampaThunder 06-15-2003, 12:42 AM Have to give my 2 cents worth on Dathorn. I've experienced a hosting nightmare recently starting with the FeaturePrice debacle and ending with MediaCatch and 3 other hosts in between. Somewhere along the way I found WHT and began lurking and educating myself. Dathorn has an almost fanatical following here and that in itself made me take pause. Anyway, decided I'd go with Dathorn a while back but they weren't taking new accounts! (Something about "controlled growth" and wanting to make sure they were servicing current clients properly before adding new ones. What's up with that? :) ) So unfortunately went with another company instead of waiting and, again, was disappointed.
After my MediaCatch disaster I went back to Dathorn and was able to sign up. Here's what's happened so far:
1) Account up and running in 2 1/2 hours (with MediaCatch it was one week before I was able to establish accounts in WHM)
2) Have submitted 4 "trouble" tickets. Don't know why they call them trouble tickets. That sort of infers I was having trouble. These were really requests for assistance: help in transferring sites from my old host, getting dedicated IP for anonymous FTP, upgrading plan (yep, upgrading already), and an email issue which was self-inflicted. In all cases I had immediate response acknowleging the issue and then total resolution in a maximum of one hour!
Their forum is very active and a tremendous resource. Posts are responded to almost instantaneously and with solid information.
The only negative I've found so far (and I may be wrong about this as I'm not the most technically proficient village idiot) is that though they offer personalized nameservers the IPs are shared. As a reseller, in order for Dathorn to be truly invisible, you would have to edit the DNS zones and that requires submission of a trouble ticket. The ability to edit the DNS Zones in WHM is turned off by default.
Sorry to be so wordy. Hope this helps you in your decision. :)
Musaca 06-15-2003, 12:56 AM @TampaThunder
If at all possible, could you be so kind enough to provide us a link to your site?
Thank you!
TampaThunder 06-15-2003, 01:21 AM Sure. It's www.letshearithosting.com (http://www.letshearithosting.com). Please understand the site is going through a total revision and is not yet "live".
Musaca 06-15-2003, 01:26 AM Originally posted by TampaThunder
Sure. It's www.letshearithosting.com (http://www.letshearithosting.com). Please understand the site is going through a total revision and is not yet "live".
It's coming along great... Keep up the good work & best of luck to you with your new site! :)
Mostly, I wanted to view your site, to test it's speed, ping time, ect.... I find A LOT of web hosting companies, keep their sites & the users sites, on diff. server, so you normally can tell by viewing one of these site.
However, asking a host for a site to view, they'll normally have something setup, just for that reason. This way, I was able to view a users site, in real time, while "un-buffed up". ;)
Thanks for your help & again, keep up the good work, it's coming along good. :cool:
TampaThunder 06-15-2003, 01:30 AM Thanks for the kind words and best of luck to you in your search. Hopefully as my company matures I'll earn your consideration as a potential host. :D Not quite ready for you yet though. LOL
MartialArts 06-15-2003, 01:39 AM I'm using CrazyTechnology.com/Solutions right now and they have THE best customer service I have ever had and the servers are very fast. I never thought I would be able to surf through the cPanel FAST. :)
As for prices, very fair and great in my opinion..
Musaca 06-15-2003, 01:44 AM Just wanted to move this list to page two! :p
adjkhost.com
crazytechnology.com
crediblehost.com
dathorn.com
jiffynet.net
psshosting.com
mysitesonline.com
vonetwork.com
worldwebhosters.com
planetshosting.com
vnpixel.com
cirtexhosting.com
drmaximus 06-15-2003, 02:25 AM Musaca, the best way to do this is for you to get your own hands dirty. Go the providers that you're interested in and send them an email query and/or post on their site forum. In my opinion, if they respond slowly to their forum, they are either (1) generally slow to respond (2) busy trying to grab customers here and ignoring those who've already signed up. Response time is very important especially for pre-sales queries. I won't mention who they are, but I know at least 3 of them in your latest list who are rather slow to respond. Also, check out their site to gather a general feel of things Crucial also to read TOS's (I read more than 20 of those important legal jargon with font size 2) and see which ones you do not agree with. You will be in for a surprise. I know customer experiences are what you're fishing for, but sometimes that is rather subjective depending on a person's level of knowledge, patience critical level and general requirements.
Also, when I asked the same question as you did, savageghost led me to a few posts that dragged out skeletons from cupboards. That helped me eliminate my choices even further.
Stephen 06-15-2003, 02:27 AM Originally posted by drmaximus
I have been with them for a year, so feel entitled to make this comment. Compared to what is offered now in the host market, PowWeb seems to have fallen behind in the super competitive race. I have not had many server problems with them, but it's relatively more expensive and customer service can be slow and sometimes pompous at the forum. They were once a leader in the field, but if the pricing doesn't improve, I think they might fall behind. They lost me - I am not renewing - because they have this weird rule of 15,000 maximum files even though I have hardly used 50% of the allocated 650mb space. FWIW.
That is quite stupid if there going to give you the space you should be able to use it, and yeah I haven't heard many good things about powWeb
drmaximus 06-15-2003, 02:33 AM I would have cancelled with them right away if their TOS had not stated the $25 early cancellation fee. That would leave me with about $1.64. I was kind before in my review... not anymore. Powweb stinks.
Musaca 06-15-2003, 03:24 AM @drmaximus
I've already contacted all the host via e-mail, forum, phone, & some by online chat (each of them I did all the above). I've had a total of 12 people do the same, as well as ping their site & a few of each of their servers. We've also (though I'm sure no one want to hear this) tested their servers for open loops or possible leaks in their service. A review of all thier TOS have been read & reread. Prices have been more then reviewed.
So the only thing left is to get customer feedback. Everything could point to a great deal, but you could still get burned. Sometimes, it still good to check word of mouth.
All the host in my last list, all reached myself & those who are working with me, in less then 2 or 3 hours. But if you feel some of those host are not as they are cracked up to be, please do share.
edit: I'd like to add, that this is not the only forum, where we are asking for user feedback. We have a total of 4 other online forums we are "scanning" through, to double check everything.
drmaximus 06-15-2003, 03:47 AM My old thread has some good information on Cirtex & Credible
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154263
BTW, now I fully comprehend the first line of your signature! :D
Musaca 06-15-2003, 11:26 AM BTW, now I fully comprehend the first line of your signature! :D
;)
The following domains are now down for the count ... ie ... rejected. I would like to remind people, that this is not to say, that they are unable to provide a great service to their users. Rather, at this time, they do not provide what we are looking for.
crediblehost.com
cirtexhosting.com
I'd like to thank them for their time & willingness in answer all our questions, while we still search for a host who meets our needs.
adjkhost.com
crazytechnology.com
dathorn.com
jiffynet.net
psshosting.com
mysitesonline.com
vonetwork.com
worldwebhosters.com
planetshosting.com
vnpixel.com
If anyone has worked with these host, please feel free to add your feedback. If any of the above host, do post on this forum, feel free to contact me & we'll talk about possible working together.
blue27 06-15-2003, 12:07 PM Musaca this is not a very professional way to handle things. I you choose not to go with a host there is no need to post it.
I assume by your webpage and the new page that is representing you that you deal with illegal activities such as warez and serial numbers. I think your potential new hosts should be aware of this.
Musaca 06-15-2003, 12:18 PM Originally posted by blue27
Musaca this is not a very professional way to handle things. I you choose not to go with a host there is no need to post it.
I assume by your webpage and the new page that is representing you that you deal with illegal activities such as warez and serial numbers. I think your potential new hosts should be aware of this.
Everytime I turn around, I have you trying to flame my action, if you don't agree with them, then please do; out of respect, look the other way & ignore me.
As for my content, I have no plans on hosting warez or serials numbers. Who ever I do choose as my host, is more then welcome to review my new site (when online), as offer or as much as they like.
Thank you!
blue27 06-15-2003, 12:30 PM Perhaps you should review your threads again. Most of my responses are a direct answer to a question you post and few of them are "flames"
And it is not a flame to warn hosts about the potential for TOS abuse.
And since you've made serious accusations against a former host with no proof, just because they cut you off for breaking their TOS
Viperhost
"Pornography, Mail Marketing, Warez and Crack Sites are strictly forbidden. If any of our clients are found hosting or participating in any of the above activities, your site will be suspended immediately. "
I would say you are high risk.
Musaca 06-15-2003, 12:34 PM @blue27
I could give you at least a total of five domains hosted by my old host viperhosts.com who either host serials, warez, crack, hacks, porn, ect... In fact, pm sent!
It is for this reason, that I am no longer hosted by them. Cause I spoke out, so they took my money & ran with it. I do not support warez, hacks, cracks, or porn ... let a lone child porn. But seeing you like to defend them so much, why don't YOU; YOURSELF partner with them?!?!?
Please see you pm.
nickn 06-15-2003, 12:37 PM Not anything against crazytechnology.com because they may have great customer service and fast services...but this is in their TOS...
Termination Without in any way limiting our (Crazy Technolgy) rights. If a site violates these terms in any way, shape, or form, the site will be deleted from our network. If 2 violations occur within a 90 day period the site will be blocked from our network. Our warning schedule is below.
First Warning: When you upload illegal content you (or your clients) are knowingly violating the terms of service. Therefore there is no need for a first warning. When you upload illegal files which violate these terms you know what you are doing is against our policies.
Second Warning: There is no second warning, the domain is deleted. You may recreate the domain, however if illegal content is found on this domain again the domain will be blocked from our servers.
I'll let you analyze it for yourself :)
nickn 06-15-2003, 12:38 PM If the contact was made, I'd be interested in knowing what form :)
[Editted to comply to the rules of the board, one of which slipped my mind.]
Musaca 06-15-2003, 12:58 PM @snickn
pm also sent
If anyone else wants proof to my claims about viperhosts.com ... Then by all means, contact me. I'll be more then willing to provide you with such links.
nickn 06-15-2003, 01:04 PM Musaca seems to be looking for a company who providers reseller accounts too, although not all of the webhosts he is down to are resellers.
Also, if you are one of these hosts, and you haven't been contacted, don't be suprised ;)
There's something fishy about this thread...that's all I'll say.
Musaca 06-15-2003, 01:05 PM I did contact you, via support@lunarpages.com. The e-mail address could have been the following;
moonlight4ever1@attbi.com ; hiddentruth007@attbi.com ; musacaonline@msn.com.
Your reply was very quick, infact quicker then most. I think (though I'm unsure) it was in under an hour. I'm sure I had asked you where your servers where located. The question at the time, was to only test how soon we would get a reply & on that test, your services did more then well.
This was not the reason, I did not pick you as a host.
nickn 06-15-2003, 01:06 PM Ok thanks :)
I was just curious, and you didn't answer the question on the first PM. Like I said, Lunarpages doesn't offer Reseller accounts anyhow, so it's of no concern, just curious where the account was made, for the webhosts who do provide reseller accounts, you ruled out a few that are very well spoken of on these boards and in the industry in general.
Edit:
For those of you who are familar with me, yes I recently accepted a position with Lunarpages.com, and when I made my recommendations and reviews of Lunarpages, I was indeed only a customer, and was employed full time with Valdosta State University's Office of Information Technology, however things happen and you gotta go with it..so...now I'm with Lunarpages :)
Ever liked a company so much you wanted to work with them to contribute to their growth?
Musaca 06-15-2003, 01:10 PM Though I did not plan on making it my policy to define why each host was not chosen. They where made on personal reasons (like with any user) & as I've said, though I did not pick them, that is not to say they did not provide great service.
Your company provided quick & friendly replies, all under an hour, sometimes faster. I've known a few online friends who use your service & to what I know of, have never had a problem.
CrazyTech 06-15-2003, 03:37 PM I do think snickn that our termination policy is quite fair, warez, porn or any material that is obviously in violation of our terms will be deleted without thought, I see nothing wrong with that. If the content is questionable, we will contact the owner of the domain, which you happened to leave out that part ;) Our policy is quite fair, you don't break any rules you do not have to worry, you break the rules knowingly, you pay. Each client is forced to check a box agreeing that they read our terms and agree to follow them, I think that is about as fair as you can get. :)
nickn 06-15-2003, 03:51 PM Hmmm..I didn't intend to leave out any part, only CP'd the part that I thought was relevant.
Musaca's site had warez/crack type material on it, if you are going to delete it without notice, he may want to read the TOS, it'd save everyone time. I think most hosts would like to be as strict with their TOS as you are, however, listening out "First Warning" and putting there is no first warning, in a TOS, seems a little bit odd, sarcasm in a legal document.
(notice I said had warez/cracks on it, not has, I do not know his plans of what site to host next, only that any site he hosts may be risky)
Also :
IRC and Chat Rooms
<clip a bit> Chat rooms may be allowed on per use basis, so please ask one of our support staff before setting one up. (Some cgi/perl based chat rooms over utilize the server processor.)
(There's a typo in one of the first sentence, should be one per user basis* your spell check probably didn't catch that)
Just thought I'd let you know :)
Musaca 06-15-2003, 04:31 PM My site NEVER had warez, cracks, hacks, or porn. It was used as a mirror for many free programs & was non-profit at the time. I hosted & mirrored such things as;
Linux Mandarke
Red Hat Linux
Serials 2000
BS Player
Open Office
Windows Media Player DRM Free
Kazaa Lite
Nimo Codec Pack
DTG Serials
Video Lan
Free Screen Savers
Windows Themes
And many more open source & freeware programs. I can think of only two of those that could be thought as questionable.
However, as you said, that is in the past. Hosting such things got very costly & after doing it for three years, it was just time to pull the plug.
What are my current plans? Right now, I plan on selling one of the domains (myabe) & keep the other two. Then, I'll be using them to get into the web hosting world. My days as a public mirror are over.
By the way.....
adjkhost.com
crazytechnology.com
dathorn.com
jiffynet.net
psshosting.com
mysitesonline.com
vonetwork.com
worldwebhosters.com
planetshosting.com
vnpixel.com
This will be my last update on this subject. Myself & those who I've been working with, will make our final choice, privately.
Thank you all for your help!
CrazyTech 06-15-2003, 04:44 PM Crazy Technology is not in the business to host any type of illegal files, and our TOS makes the point clear :)
Per use is correct because customers are allowed to have that type of chat per use that they need it for thanks for looking over my TOS however :)
Goodluck with your choice Musaca, as you have a good list. It pays to do your research and take your time.
nickn 06-15-2003, 11:52 PM Ah read it wrong, no problem though. Just trying to help out :)
CrazyTech 06-15-2003, 11:55 PM No problem at all, glad you care ;)
psalicrup 06-16-2003, 12:28 AM People choosing hosts like its a beauty pageant is funny :)
Kimmikat 06-17-2003, 12:20 AM drmaximus,
I also used to be with Powweb, but their mySQL grant restrictions would cause my mboard to go down a few times a week until the grants reset, which was every hour. Their current limits are 36,000 max_questions and 3600 connections per user per hour. So I moved to another host. I did get a refund for the unused time and the mysql fee (they now offer it free with all accounts).
Other then mySQL issues I didn't have much problems, and the server I was on (Jupitor) was very dependable, although some others seem to go down a lot.
Originally posted by drmaximus
I have been with them for a year, so feel entitled to make this comment. Compared to what is offered now in the host market, PowWeb seems to have fallen behind in the super competitive race. I have not had many server problems with them, but it's relatively more expensive and customer service can be slow and sometimes pompous at the forum. They were once a leader in the field, but if the pricing doesn't improve, I think they might fall behind. They lost me - I am not renewing - because they have this weird rule of 15,000 maximum files even though I have hardly used 50% of the allocated 650mb space. FWIW.
Daijoubu 06-26-2003, 03:10 AM About mysitesonline.com:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=124926
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