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MrLeN
06-14-2003, 10:53 AM
I'be been accused of being a troll, by some dude on this forum.
What is a troll?

MrLeN

JWise
06-14-2003, 10:54 AM
Little dolls with Green Hair.. and their ugly :pimp:

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 10:55 AM
Yeah, but what does it mean on a forum?

MrLeN

Xshare
06-14-2003, 10:56 AM
Nothing, just that. It's just that trolls are ugly.

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 10:57 AM
nah - there's a forum meaning.

I've seen it on this forum few times. Some other dudes have been called a troll too. But I have never seen the word on any other forums.

MrLeN

Phrozen
06-14-2003, 11:02 AM
See here:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=troll

adland
06-14-2003, 11:03 AM
Someone who posts inaccurate or inflammatory comments to bait others into responding - "trolling" for a response.

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:08 AM
I am not a troll. I just have a few people that have taken a disliking to me and bash my threads, which makes it seem as though every thread I am in is causing trouble :(

I have done well by not taking the bate though. I wonder how long this will keep up. Is it ok to personally insult people on this forum, if a good debate gets too heated?

One of my good threads was just recently closed, because it turned out to be a string of personal insults and bashing :confused:

Some people!

MrLeN

SoftWareRevue
06-14-2003, 11:10 AM
That's a pretty good description.

Here's something more in depth. http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm

And definition (http://hes.iki.fi/jargon/html/T/troll.html).

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:13 AM
Hi SoftWareRevue,

I hope that you can read that thread that you just closed. No offence, but I feel that if you actually read it, you will see that about 1/2 way through it simply turned into a *Bash MrLeN* saga.

I did my best to keep it clean. I wish you didn't close it, because apart from the insults I wanted to continue with the topic - without the insults, which is why I PM'd you instead of fighting back.

MrLeN

adland
06-14-2003, 11:17 AM
Awwwwwww, *sniff sniff*

:rolleyes:

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:19 AM
Just saying the truth.

MrLeN

adland
06-14-2003, 11:20 AM
Just quoting you from your locked thread. Doesn't really seem you were interested in the responses, now does it?

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:21 AM
I know you were.

MrLeN

SoftWareRevue
06-14-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by MrLeN
Hi SoftWareRevue,

I hope that you can read that thread that you just closed. No offence, but I feel that if you actually read it, you will see that about 1/2 way through it simply turned into a *Bash MrLeN* saga.

I did my best to keep it clean. I wish you didn't close it, because apart from the insults I wanted to continue with the topic - without the insults, which is why I PM'd you instead of fighting back.

MrLeN When a thread degenerates into personal insults exchanged between members, it no longer is useful to anyone. If you make volatile statements, you need to expect volatile responses.

Pilgrim
06-14-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by adland
Awwwwwww, *sniff sniff*

:rolleyes:

troll: an individual that frequents message boards and makes up stories or belittles others posting on the board.

*cough* :D

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:23 AM
You have't read the thread have you?

I am not talking about simple sacrasm and witty responses. I can handle that. What I can't handle is complete and utter "off the bat" insults.

You still haven't read that thread have you?

MrLeN

SoftWareRevue
06-14-2003, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Pilgrim
troll: an individual that frequents message boards and makes up stories or belittles others posting on the board.

*cough* :D That would be trolling; yes.

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:29 AM
ok - I give up.

MrLeN

adland
06-14-2003, 11:36 AM
Some thoughts for you:

1) If everyone makes 100K prices will go up
2) If all anyone can make is 100K the incentive to create great companies that change the world goes down
3) Bill Gates, and I believe the founder of eBay, have said before they don't believe in inheritied wealth and will give away their fortune before their death. Bill's foudnation is currently doing a lot of work with vaccines because it represents a good return on his investment (like software)
4) Cap people's income and they won't report all of it to avoid being unfairly penalized - or they'll take 1/2 or 3/4 of the year off.
5) In the 70s when both the United States and Europe faced similar economic situations, socialists in Europe decided the solution was to cut the work week so companies would have to employ more people. Result: it played havoc with the European economy, productivity plunged and unemployment rose.
6) It makes no sense to cap the income for all. What would be more reasonable is to do what some companies do and say that the income of the CEO cannot be more than X-times greater than that of the lowest paid employee. That way everyone participates in the success of a company on a somewhat equal basis and there is still incentive to improve.

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:40 AM
That topic was closed.

MrLeN

SoftWareRevue
06-14-2003, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by MrLeN
You have't read the thread have you?

I am not talking about simple sacrasm and witty responses. I can handle that. What I can't handle is complete and utter "off the bat" insults.

You still haven't read that thread have you?

MrLeN I'm sure if you read it; very slowly, you would still not understand how you began personal insults.

The whole thread started with you basically saying that if people didn't agree with you, they were ignorant.

You opened a discussion and didn't like anyone that discussed something contrary to your belief.

I think you need to look at it again. I sure as betsy ain't gonna.

blue27
06-14-2003, 11:44 AM
And with good reason. I don't think I can recall ever reading that amount of garbage coming from one person in one thread.
MrLen you need help. Did some rich guy kick sand in your face on the beach? Your arguements in that thread were borderine juvenile.

And from what I could tell, you certainly brought the flaming on yourself. Don't cry about it after the fact or whine about the Mods closing your thread.

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:45 AM
Sorry SoftWareRevue

I'll try to be more understanding in future.

MrLeN

MrLeN
06-14-2003, 11:46 AM
blue27,

Sorry mate. Don't know what I was thinking.

MrLeN

Cirtex
06-14-2003, 11:47 AM
very interesting...:D
trolls...

adland
06-14-2003, 11:52 AM
That topic was closed.

Definitely a troll.

rooshine
06-14-2003, 12:38 PM
My father started taking me fishing when I was about five or six, so I've been fishing most of my life. Docked not too far away were these big commercial trawlers. My father explained that these big boats went out into the ocean, dropped their mile-long nets (some longer) overboard and caught whatever was unlucky enough to get stuck in the net. Sometimes they used mile long lines with thousands of hooks instead. Even though these trawlers had a specific kind or kinds of fish in mind, trawling meant not really caring what you caught. You just dropped your bait and waited to see what you got. Trawling is pronounced trolling, and as I kid I always thought that was how it was spelled. Looks like this is where the current meaning and usage of trolling comes from.

bear
06-14-2003, 12:57 PM
Trawling and trolling aren't exactly the same thing. In fishing, trolling is to drop a line behind a moving boat, while moving slowly forward past various 'fish-likely' spots.
Trawling is as you described, although i can't say I've ever heard of them using hooks, as it seems that they would get caught on more than fish. Perhaps you're confusing that with long lining? Those lines are dropped, baited, and left for a while and then retrieved. Usually they are left tied to a buoy while the boat sets more lines.

RajanUrs
06-14-2003, 01:23 PM
The only was to stop being a troll is to stfu.....nevermind who's fault it is....or if you really are a troll or not.

RajanUrs
06-14-2003, 01:30 PM
And for the academic minded people here

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=troll

rooshine
06-14-2003, 02:01 PM
Bear, trawling like you described it is the way we recreational fishers do it.

The original big guys do it more like this. (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=trawl)

Sorry, I was slow to realize RajanUrs already looked it up. But this is an alternate spelling