What are creative ways you have found to send pain back to a company or individual that will not stop spaming after repeated requests. I am ready to release a can of whoop-ass on his email account.

Any Ideas appreciated,

SpamCop.net and mail filters.

-t

The best thing to do is completely filter the scrotes emails.

I believe you cannot fight fire with fire - I have given up - even with spamcop. Since I started using spamcop the problem got worse.:angry:

Outlook express does a reasonable job of checking for keywords and strings within the message or subject or from or all three - works for me!

It sounds like you need to educate yourself about spam prevention and spam fighting. If you had, you'd know that you almost never e-mail a spammer. They will not remove you from their mailing list and all you do is is verify a working address so they can spam you even more.

Since many relay through other servers, and most use phony return addresses, they don't know which addresses are valid and which aren't. Don't make it any easier for them.

You can start at CAUCE (http://www.cauce.org) and the links they have on their site.


"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

Many spammers will not use their true email address or just a throwaway email account - so trying to spam them back would not be to effective ;)

The best thing you can do is inform the ISP to terminate the account.

I did dig deeper into a spammer's message recently and checked out the form that was used on the site. Form was submitted to his ISP's email address and through a formmailer in his ISP's cgi-bin so that was nice. He's signed up on as many bulk mailing lists I could find for errrrr... I'll leave that part out.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you." - Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche [/B]

**off topic**
Love that quote... I prefer this one though:

"A day shall come when you see your high things no more, and your low things all too near, and you will fear your exaltation as if it were a phantom. In that day you will cry: All is false." - Friedrich Nietzsche, 1885

A bit of a tosser at times, but he could certainly string a sentence together. :)

Greg Moore

Every now and then a spammer will use a real e-mail address and one that won't get cancelled immediately. While it won't accomplish anything other than a cathartic release, I occasionally use an anonymous remailer to contact the spammer and let them know what the world thinks abouyt them (or at least what I do).

I received 2 bits of spam recently from the same person, pushing a newsletter about Italy. It had many laughable bits of idiocy, like This message is being sent to you in compliance with the proposed Federal legislation for commercial e-mail (S.1618 - SECTION 301). "Pursuant to Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618, further transmissions to you by the sender of this e-mail may be stopped at no cost to you by submitting a request to REMOVE Further, this message cannot be considered spam as long as we include sender contact information.
andI AM NOT A SPAMMER. You will not receive any further messages from me unless it is you who requests them by writing to me.

That second spam from him said the exact same thing. I got a little enjoyment from sending him a few messages. After the first one, where I suggested he find a purpose in life by becoming fertilizer and become a good spammer (I included the admonition that the only good spammer was a dead spammer) , I started sending a few spammer jokes. These include "What's the difference between a spammer and a sack of manure?" and "What do you call a bunch of skydiving spammers?"

The answers are" the sack" and "skeet!"

It won't do anything other than make me feel a bit better, and that's enough. I notified the admin of the Italian server he was relaying through to close their open relays and took other steps.

Many of you already know the three rules about spammers:

1. Spammers lie.
2. If a spammer appears to be telling the truth, see Rule #1.
3. Spammers are stupid. (the great majority of them, anyway)

Note for those who don't know:
That Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618, referred to by many spammers was the Murkowski bill that never became law and died in session 3 years ago. That means it is no longer pending.

People who send unsolicited bulk e-mail are spammers, despite their denials (see rule number 1), and their messages are spam, whether they label them as advertisements or not. One of the things that makes spammers stupid is that they think you are and will believe them.

They will say anything to get you to reply and verify a working e-mail address. The latest scam is to get you to call or send them a copy of your phone bill so they can associate your phone number with an e-mail address. Please be smarter than that. Repeat rule number 1 over and over, print it and tape it to your pc and/or refrigerator, just don't contact them (unless anonymously).

Originally posted by ksfacinelli
What are creative ways you have found to send pain back to a company or individual that will not stop spaming after repeated requests. I am ready to release a can of whoop-ass on his email account.

Any Ideas appreciated,


"Don't mud wrestle with a pig because in the end you're both dirty and the pig enjoys it!"

Something else you can do (mentioend on other discussions here about spamming) with spammers that include a fax number (as many do) is fax lengthy documents of white on black. It uses up the toner in their fax machine and can cost them a bit of money (and just aggravate them).

Of course, you don't want to do this long distance as it can be costly. that's why you may want to post in the nanae newsgroup (look it up) where many anti-spammers join together and fax to spammers in their area.

If yo do this, be sure to fax at a time they might be closed. A few months ago, I was spammed by a local company and faxed them back on Sunday morning. I'll bet they got a surprise on Monday!

A variation of this, if you have a fax machine instead of a fax modem, is to tape black sheets of paper together into a loop in your fax machine and send them. It will form a continuous very l o n g page that might use up all of the spammer's fax toner.

Sometimes it feels good to strike back and aggravate them for a change. :D

I'm having a bit of fun individually killing the little buggers myself. There's a few chatrooms on AOL where they scroll their little formmail program stats. I just turn on the logger and then site back and watch. If anyone wants to see a couple of the logs, pm me and I'll give you the address. I've already sent in about one IP, warned one formmail site, reported a few users, and gotten a site or two distributing the programs shut down. It isn't much, but kill a spammer and that's thousands of mails that won't get sent out by them. They'll be back, and so will I. I figure I can be just as stubborn as them.

What are peoples opinions of these scripts I have seen, using an include or somesuch in a web page to detect spambots and feed them thousands of phoney emails. 1 program I saw claimed it could feedback up to 50 000 but they all relied on being configured for recogniseable sources of spam (ip's, hosts etc), and it seemed to me that could backfire badly.

One good tip is dont use your email address on your pages if you can, or minimise it. I recently saw a little java script which breaks up the address and claims to make an address unrecogniseable to bots but prints to the screen looking just like a normal mailto - anyone got any opinions on this?

That reminds me, can anyone point me to a reasonably simple form mailer script which stores the email address in a config file or similar. The one I use right now has a hidden tag with the email in it which I dont like.

one peek at the title if it gets through and they end up under the hammer of my delete key :D

Originally posted by Duster
If you have a fax machine instead of a fax modem, is to tape black sheets of paper together into a loop in your fax machine and send them. It will form a continuous very l o n g page that might use up all of the spammer's fax toner.

I worked at a Mail Boxes Etc type store, and one of our box holders (kinda like a po box...) spammed all around, using our fax machine as his contact fax number.

On a monday morning, i noticed an amazingly big pile of paper on the floor, and rememberd putting in a new 500 foot role of fax paper in sat night... Somebody did the above mentioned trick, and used up 500 feet of fax paper, and $45 in toner. We charged the box holder / spammer our standard rate, of $1 for the first page, $.50 for each additional, we also charged him the replacement cost of the toner, $45.

Suprizingly enough, he paid us the full $300+ tax, closed his box, and moved on.

Luckly for us, the looped fax that came in had his name, and a copy of the email with the words "DIE SPAMMER DIE"... with a few other choice words stuck in there, without this info, our company would have had to cover the $300 loss. ($65 actual, we made $240+ off the guy :))

Thanks everyone here is a bit more information that may help you understand my problem. I run a site called www.colosource.com that is a free informational portal for the colocation industry. Periodically, a user sends a bunch Spam to the listed email addresses. Most I contact will say sorry, blah, blah, blah and stop but a few keep Spaming. The worst part of this is that the HTML code auto populates the subject line with :"Information request generated from www.colosource.com" as well as bcc me a copy. So you see I end up with a valid return email address but a few buggers just will not stop, ruining the reputation of the service we provide.

HELP, HELP

Kevin