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mhwadmin
06-08-2003, 07:09 PM
Finally i find out who was trying to find out my clients cpanal passwords as directed in this thread below:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=152281

This person was a client of mine - demanded things to be done on the spot or he would post a bad referal on here (WHT) about my company. We did what he asked but it was the way he said it was very rude and threatning towards my company if we didnt. So we did it for him because i didn't want any trouble to deal with.
All im saying is to be aware of this individual. He will stab you in the back faster then anything. If you decide to host this guy his doamin name is customeizedhost.com. I still have his domain name as I do not know what to do with it. Would it be proper for me to give him sole ownership of this domain? after all this trouble i had to go through with him? I also have a few of his freinds domain names. What do i do with them?

Matt
06-08-2003, 07:15 PM
Your answer to that question should lie within your TOS agreement.

Lippy
06-08-2003, 08:13 PM
There should always be a section about harassment, threats and blackmail in your TOS as well as you should save any instantances of this just incase. Good luck with this problem client.

Curtis H.
06-08-2003, 09:23 PM
Right or wrong, I have a problem with hosting providers who mention clients by name. Former or current, in the fashion that Matt, a so called President/CEO has down. Unprofessional.

Matt
06-08-2003, 09:51 PM
I believe you are right there, Curtis. I can understand the wish to warn others, but it is a huge liability you put on your company by posting that info. It should be handled in private...I think most lawyers would agree. Although they may have wronged him, he should not bring his revenge to such a public place. He has now slandered the clients name to a few thousand people.

Don't get me wrong, I do understand why mhwadmin, but sometimes you need to suppress the revenge feelings. It tends to never turn out in your favor.

intellec
06-08-2003, 10:17 PM
How would we know that specific person in these forums anyway, everybody has nicks here. Maybe some hosts will look out for the name and ask questions before they take his sign-up.

Stephen
06-08-2003, 10:31 PM
How can one be so mean honestly to try and bring you down after all you did for him... I don't like to say stuff like this but what an ass.

Matt
06-08-2003, 11:38 PM
The issue here is that he has made accusations against someone, and we do not know their side. Before passing judgement on anything, should you not look at it from more than one side?

So now, based one one side of the story, you are wanting the hosting community to identify him as a fraud and fake?

I agree that what he did, if true, is not acceptable on any level. I just feel that it is not appropriate to slander his name based on one persons experience

That just brings me back to what some others have been saying for awhile, when bad things are posted here, everyone jumps on the wagon to bash that person. When good things are said, they are automatically accused of being a spammer.

WHT seems to be shifting to a "revenge" intermediary. How many threads have been posted recently that mention they will post a bad review here if they don't get what they want.

mhwadmin
06-09-2003, 01:40 AM
I posted his name because i wanted to warn others to look out for the name. not to post his name for the hell of it. I was only helping other companies but if you do not want to take my advise then sign him up. I'm sure you will be thrilled with hosting this individual. This is a person who has caused more trouble then you even know. How would you feel if someone contacted your clients and was trying to get their passwords to whipe out their entire site? What if he did actually get a password from a client of mine? What if a client of yours decided to merge with some other company and spammed your current clients everyday? I would hope that you would give a heads up to other companies such as I have done. I was only trying to be freindly but that is something that obviously is not eceptable on this forum. Unprofessional you call it? thats the thanks I get for lending others a helping hand and giving a heads up?

"Right or wrong, I have a problem with hosting providers who mention clients by name. Former or current, in the fashion that Matt, a so called President/CEO has down. Unprofessional."

It also looks like you have a problem Curtis H. For one, if you think that I am unprofessional by giving a heads up about a past client that gave me so much hell every single day then turn around and backstabe you. This is a client that I helped basically build his site for free. I did the coding for him because he asked me to. I did the layout for him because he asked me to. I did the programming for him because again, he asked me to. Then he turns around and spams my clients, makes a fony name to impersonate me to get my clients passwords to whipe out their hard worked sites?
I only wanted to help other companies that may come accross this name. Not to post his name to humiliate him.

"believe you are right there, Curtis. I can understand the wish to warn others, but it is a huge liability you put on your company by posting that info. It should be handled in private...I think most lawyers would agree. Although they may have wronged him, he should not bring his revenge to such a public place. He has now slandered the clients name to a few thousand people."

Huge liability? You got to be kidding me right? Do you realize how many names in the world that could be Steven Myers? Peobley a few billion. You act like i gave out his social security card number.
and this is not about revenge. This is about WARNING others of a potential client they may not want to deal with.

I am normally one of the nicest guys you ever want to meet. I never disrespect anyone, I'm always polite when I speak to others. I've never given anyone trouble on this forum. Iv never posted harsh things about anyone or any company. So why do it to me when i was only wanting to help? To call me an unprofessional is so uncalled for. If you want his side of the story, his AIM name is: cheapmonkey101. Is this to personal to give out? Am i going to get sued for writing someones screen name out? lol. you make me laugh. and im not laughing with you, im laughing at you for stupidity.

Matt
06-09-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by mhwadmin


I am normally one of the nicest guys you ever want to meet. I never disrespect anyone

lol. you make me laugh. and im not laughing with you, im laughing at you for stupidity.

Hmmm...nothing like a "CEO" to resort to an insult to argue his side.

But since you call yourself a CEO, maybe you might want to have your "legal department" look at some of the privacy laws in addition to how to handle abusive and manipulating clients. I can guarantee you their answer would not be "run to WHT to do the world a favor and let them know about this creep".

You really need to control your anger, you are representing your company and if you are unable to respond to others with respect and dignity, how do you treat your clients?

I completely agree, as I stated before your little tirade, that if what you say is true, it is not acceptable on any level. My issue is the fact that a "CEO" came to an open forum to put this guys name up for all to see. I understand you are angry at him and wish to warn others so they do not fall under the same situation, but you also need to realize that you have now made a private issue within your company public. You have also accused this person, publicly, of misdeeds. You should not be handling something like this publicly is all I am saying.

If you don't like what I say, that's fine, but don't get all upset over it. You choose to run your business however you please. Just remember that when you bring something like this into the public spotlight, that public now has the right to make their own observations and opinions about it. If you didn't want feedback you should not have brought it here. No one asked you to.

blue27
06-09-2003, 05:54 PM
Hmmm...nothing like a "CEO" to resort to an insult to argue his side


Probably more like CEO, owner, sales staff, support staff, accountant. People like to throw around impressive words like CEO to make themselves look professional.
mhwadmin, you probably had a few people on your side until your little diatribe there not I doubt it. I would like to hear the other side of the story now. I sure it would shed some light on things.

Incognito
06-09-2003, 06:15 PM
You have crossed the line in violating any reasonable privacy policy (I can't find one on your site). I posted his name because i wanted to warn others to look out for the name. not to post his name for the hell of it. You have with your initial posts and your follow-ups warned more about yourself than you probably perceive. You have shown you will post anything and everything about persons you deal with disregarding any privacy issues. You have shown you will immaturely attack anyone who disagrees with your actions as you did those who posted in this thread. You have shown an inability to communicate on a professional level, including an inability to write coherently and spell correctly.

You came in here to rant and vent about a person with whom you had unpleasant dealings. Unfortunately, however true any of that might be, by the way you conducted yourself, you said volumes about yourself and about your company. While all the information we have here about the other person is second hand, we have all observed you first hand.

The other person may well be dishonest and nothing but trouble. You are definitely unprofessional.

TalonKarrde
06-09-2003, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by Incognito
The other person may well be dishonest and nothing but trouble. You are definitely unprofessional.
Well said. That about sums it up

ANMMark
06-09-2003, 06:44 PM
You have to keep in mind that mhwadmin was indeed trying to do everyone here a favor.

Now, the way in which he did it, is indeed questionable, but it was all with good intentions, at least from what I'm reading.

Although I agree, that it should be pointed out to him that he has breeched some privacy laws there, it's not cool to put the guy down for trying to help.

This has happened on numerous occasions, where someone will come in, and post a fraudulant customer's name. However, I don't think I've ever seen it backfire on them, the way it has here.

I personally think mhwadmin has sacrificed his own reputation, to keep everyone else from dealing with this guy, and I'm sure glad he posted his name.

This guy represented mhwadmin's company fraudulantly in an attempt to illegally gain access to customer accounts. Therefore he broke the law. I would suggest pressing charges, not bringing it to WHT, but mhwadmin I still thank you.

TalonKarrde
06-09-2003, 06:48 PM
I just now read the other thread on it, and it's swayed my judgement, a little. It was nice of him to bring us the info, but the insults sort of just threw all the praise I could muster off

heyj
06-09-2003, 07:04 PM
I would like to say my self, I DID NOT TRY AND GET ANYONES PASSWORDS FOR ANY HOST... AND I DO NOT PLAN ON IT... does everyone understand? I did not falsify my identity.

TalonKarrde
06-09-2003, 07:04 PM
Understanding and believing are two very different things.

ANMMark
06-09-2003, 07:12 PM
I agree.

I find it hard to believe anyone that would break this type of law, would be honest about anything.

When you add to the fact that a person that actually broke the law, would never tell you they did.

Glad to see you've shown up here though lol

Matt
06-09-2003, 07:29 PM
If what he did was illegal, then take it to court. If you are not wanting to bring legal action against him, I am forced to wonder why. If someone had taken the same actions against my company, it would be dealt with in the legal system, not a public forum. By not taking legal action, you are showing him that his actions have no consequences.