Hello All,

I am considering using Dell Servers for any dedicated services that I offer. They have great support, prices, and options. Most of all their products are reliable. Does any other dedicated hosting company out there use specifically dell servers for their dedicated customers?

Thanks,
Michael Barker

All the Dual XEON servers at RackShack are Dell's Everyone seems to be really happy with them. Very Solid.

Many dedicated server providers are using Dell servers. To name a few, RackShack, RackMy and EZZI. Dell servers have a very good reputation so I am sure Dell is a good choice.

The Dell servers offered by rackshack are only Tower Servers and I would suggest to use one of dells poweredge servers.

Direct from the dell site about the 6000

ENTERPRISE LEVEL PERFORMANCE AT AN OUTSTANDING PRICE

Recommended to run applications for small businesses with 1 to 10 users, and to manage e-mail services and file/print sharing for small businesses with 11 to 50 users

Originally posted by netnewb
The Dell servers offered by rackshack are only Tower Servers and I would suggest to use one of dells poweredge servers.
RackShack's servers are PowerEdge based servers. Since when does a Dell server need to be rack mounted to be a PowerEdge? :eek:

I think what netnewb meant to say was that rack shack uses the dell 600 and 1600 series tower servers. As it says on dells web site these are not really meant for hosting. I did go to dells site and viewed what it says there, netnewb was correct in posting what he has there.

Also, I think when he said use a poweredge he should have clarified it and said use a poweredge 1650, 2650, 4600, etc...

After speaking with the Small Business Division for a half-hour I think it would be a positive option to go with Dell Servers. Although they are a little expensive, they are still a good option. In our case, we would have to use the Rack Mounted version in respect to space availability.

Thanks,
Michael Barker

PS: Keep posting your comments concerning using dell for dedicated servers.

I thought about deploying PowerEdge rackmounts for dedicated rentals within my company. It didn't prove to be cost effective unless we charged an arm and a leg. It all depends on who you are targeting though, if your targeting the $99 market then don't even bother. If your doing it for business, then its a great thing since you can charge them $300 or so a month, which allows you to make a ROI.

The 600SC and the 1600SC would be the only cost effective ones for the $99 market but if your doing colo, don't expect to fit much into the rackspace.

Originally posted by oanielsen
All the Dual XEON servers at RackShack are Dell's Everyone seems to be really happy with them. Very Solid.

yeah those are animals hehe :) very solid

No, I am not dare looking at the "cheap" $99 market. No offense intended on anyone. I believe we are going to go into the Managed and Unmanaged solutions using Linux and w2k dedicated server business. Nothing "cheap" here.

Thanks,
Michael Barker

Originally posted by TechEGlobal
No, I am not dare looking at the "cheap" $99 market. No offense intended on anyone. I believe we are going to go into the Managed and Unmanaged solutions using Linux and w2k dedicated server business. Nothing "cheap" here.

Thanks,
Michael Barker

if you can't handle unmanaged servers, then rackshack is not a good solution for you :)

we use dual xeon dell poweredges for our shared and reseller clients and are extremely happy with them.

paul

We use Dells for dedicated servers and are very happy.

Not all Dell Poweredge 600 series is a tower. Dell PE 650 is a rackmount :)

Dell PE2650 is a good one. You get a KVM Over IP with each Dell PE2650. That alone worth few hundred dollar per unit/server.

I wonder, does Dell PE 650/1750 have this KVM OVer IP capability?

Originally posted by Everyday
I think what netnewb meant to say was that rack shack uses the dell 600 and 1600 series tower servers. As it says on dells web site these are not really meant for hosting. I did go to dells site and viewed what it says there, netnewb was correct in posting what he has there.
Errr...Rackshack are using Dell servers not designed for hosting? Someone want to clarify that?

Originally posted by Everyday
I think what netnewb meant to say was that rack shack uses the dell 600 and 1600 series tower servers. As it says on dells web site these are not really meant for hosting. I did go to dells site and viewed what it says there, netnewb was correct in posting what he has there.

Also, I think when he said use a poweredge he should have clarified it and said use a poweredge 1650, 2650, 4600, etc... Other than the mounting rails on the case, what hardware wise makes the rackmount dell servers better for web site hosting than the tower servers?

Errr...Rackshack are using Dell servers not designed for hosting? Someone want to clarify that?
My take is that it's mostly marketing verbage on Dell's part and there is no difference in the actual hardware - just a different case.

I'm sure the Dell Dual Xeon servers at Rackshack are true server-class servers. They are designed to be a server and that's what is needed for hosting many sites.

Alan

If they were not meant for hosting, then we have over 600 servers (already sold of the 2000 we bought) pumping out several hundred megs constantly. Guess they must be trash! Certainly not meant for hosting. :)

Everyday, again you show your ignorance and propensity to spout false information and go about trashing Rackshack. Rackshack has never deployed a 600sc Dell server.

http://www.dell.com/us/en/esg/topics/segtopic_server_comp.htm

If this is what you are referring to, then I guess that the Dell PowerEdge Rack and Powe Edge Performance servers are not "meant" for being used for hosting.

The graphic merely points out that their "server appliances" were "meant" to be used for hosting, etc.

Good job at twisting the reality.

Wow, Headsurfer really showed Everyday who was boss.

Cheers!

I'm Sorry I did not mean to open this thread for bashing.

Thanks,
Michael Barker

Tech- I did not mean to direct my frustration to you, but rather only to Everyday who just can't stop bashing Rackshack.

Dell makes a great product, even the desktops. However, their server products, even the lowly 600 series, is an awesome platform for hosting and far better than 95%, maybe 98%, of what is being used in the dedicated hosting marketplace.

Everyday, just looking over your post history for the last few days, I think you have made your opinions on RackShack quite clear to the community. There for, it would probably be best if you take any further "issues" you may have with them direct to RackShack.
Originally posted by headsurfer
Dell makes a great product, even the desktops. However, their server products, even the lowly 600 series, is an awesome platform for hosting and far better than 95%, maybe 98%, of what is being used in the dedicated hosting marketplace.
Yup, Dell certainly do make a solid product. I have been using Dell's since '93 with no major problems. The only thing I can fault with Dell is their delivery system, it's a nightmare.

Robert- I was directing my comment to that of the individual who commented about RackShack's dell servers. Personally, I do not believe RackShack would ever put a server up on its product line that would not be suited for web hosting. The one time in the past that I had used RackShack I had not one problem. I believe that Robert does his research well before he invests a large sum of money into buying serves.

Thanks,
Michael

I Pm'd you Robert.

Any poweredge server is good for webhosting. The only real difference in the rack mount servers is the whole part about being a rack mount server. Better cooling, tighter and more organized cases, more tolerant power supplies, etc.

To answer FHDave, the new 650 (which replaces the older and dated 350) adds support for DRAC, so remote access is available. I believe all PowerEdge servers now have some sort of remote access capability. The 2650 has it embedded "for free". The new 1750 is the 1U version of the 2650 with only three drive bays.

Dell PowerEdge servers are the best value for quality servers, and they are ALL excellent for web hosting. I only wish I could use the towers without paying a huge colo penalty for size.

so, what are the dell models used at rackshack? ( dual + 1 gb + 2x 73 gigs ) ?

I would like to see a pic :)

I believe it's the 1600

http://www.dell.com/us/en/esg/topics/esg_pedge_sc_towermain_servers_1_pedge_1600sc.htm

RackMy how many dedicated servers do you guys have?

Thanks,
Michael

A datacenter full :) I am not sure, I have not counted recently.

I love it when HS comes around to set the record straight. :)

Feeling very good about the dual xeons now. :)

yes.. we do use the 1600s ..... and soon some others :)

We have gotten VERY positive response on teh 1600s .. so much so we are considering a new P4 offering with the 600 or 1600 line.

But, currently, only the 1600s ..

Originally posted by headsurfer
If they were not meant for hosting, then we have over 600 servers (already sold of the 2000 we bought) pumping out several hundred megs constantly.
Make that 601 now. :)

Originally posted by headsurfer
yes.. we do use the 1600s ..... and soon some others :)

We have gotten VERY positive response on teh 1600s .. so much so we are considering a new P4 offering with the 600 or 1600 line.

But, currently, only the 1600s ..


Do you have any plans for any Opteron servers?


Vidar

Indeed, I'm wondering about the Opteron/AMD 64 as well. I'm not seeing it widely offered by companies like Rackshack or ServerMatrix. Of course, considering the way everyone on WHT talks about Xeons, I wonder if they realize just how badly the Opteron can smoke it.

In fact, when taking total system I/O into account, G5 servers with their dual 1 GHz busses can run circles around the Xeon too. I would like to see more server companies offering alternatives to the Xeon. Alternatives to Dell, as well. For everyone on this forum who sings the praises of Dell servers, you will also find a sys admin (myself included) who would never trust them in a mission-critical enterprise environment.

Guys come on. This is a 10 month old thread. Please don't bring them back from the dead.