200MB Disc Space
10GB transfer (6 min)
10 subdomains
Web Control Panel
10 FTP accounts
SSi
Password Protected Directories
Customizable Error Pages
High uptime
Located in USA
Unix/Red hat Linus (their essentially the same thing, right)

$80 year

Thx!

http://www.valuablehost.com/valuable-5.htm

That is a lot to request for such a little price. Not too many hosts will be able to offer it, but you may find a few.

One thing to keep in mind is the level of service you will receive. Looking for the host who has the lowest price may result in getting a host who also has bad technical support or bad uptime. It's a give and take situation. If you want a low price with great features, you cannot expect great uptime and service.

Just wanted to forewarn you. :)

BTW: This isn't with every low-priced high-featured host ... just some. Just make sure you research the company and know what you are getting into. Otherwise you'll need to look for a new host just as fast! :(

This may sound stupid, but
10GB transfer (6 min)

Does that mean you must transfer a minimum of 6 gigs?

hehe, me meant that no less than 6 gigs transfer. sorry if that was confusion

So they tell you that you have to transfer at least 6 gig? Or what?

hmm... i'm trying to say that the plan should let me be able to transfer 6 gigs (like when you are looking at the plans, it says the ammount of bandwidth you get is like 10 gigs or something. I wanted a plan that had 6GB transfer or more. ) Am I making any sense?

Maybe your just saying that because you can't afford to offer low price hosting :eek: :eek:

:)


Originally posted by Vincent Paglione
That is a lot to request for such a little price. Not too many hosts will be able to offer it, but you may find a few.

One thing to keep in mind is the level of service you will receive. Looking for the host who has the lowest price may result in getting a host who also has bad technical support or bad uptime. It's a give and take situation. If you want a low price with great features, you cannot expect great uptime and service.

Just wanted to forewarn you. :)

BTW: This isn't with every low-priced high-featured host ... just some. Just make sure you research the company and know what you are getting into. Otherwise you'll need to look for a new host just as fast! :(

Originally posted by Disc13
200MB Disc Space
10GB transfer (6 min)
10 subdomains
Web Control Panel
10 FTP accounts
SSi
Password Protected Directories
Customizable Error Pages
High uptime
Located in USA
Unix/Red hat Linus (their essentially the same thing, right)

$80 year

Thx!


We come very close and with great service as well.

www.LinkSky.com

Originally posted by Hostexp
Maybe your just saying that because you can't afford to offer low price hosting
Not to rock anyone's boat or anything, but $80 a year for 6 gigs is a bit low. That's about a buck a gig. 10 gigs would make it a little under $0.75 a gig. If there is a NOC out there that can offer me $0.50 or less a gig (I do need to make a profit you know), you might have yourself a new colocating customer. :)

Any host that is able to offer a gig for a buck and still make good profit off of it: hold on to your deal and don't let it go! :)

Some people just have special deals :D

like me :)

Anyway i just don't want to see anyone say that cheap hosting isn't all that good...

:D
Originally posted by allera

Not to rock anyone's boat or anything, but $80 a year for 6 gigs is a bit low. That's about a buck a gig. 10 gigs would make it a little under $0.75 a gig. If there is a NOC out there that can offer me $0.50 or less a gig (I do need to make a profit you know), you might have yourself a new colocating customer. :)

Any host that is able to offer a gig for a buck and still make good profit off of it: hold on to your deal and don't let it go! :)

Originally posted by Hostexp
Some people just have special deals :D

like me :)

Anyway i just don't want to see anyone say that cheap hosting isn't all that good...
He did have a small disclaimer:
BTW: This isn't with every low-priced high-featured host ... just some. Just make sure you research the company and know what you are getting into. Otherwise you'll need to look for a new host just as fast!
Either way, he has a valid point. Almost no host, unless they own their own NOC or have "special deals" (which aren't _that_ many), can offer hosting at that price and still afford good support and equipment and make some sort of profit. Sure, a host can give a couple of customers that kind of deal and perhaps break even, but they can't offer that all the time. The math just doesn't work.

I'm just backing up the claim that $1/gig is very hard to find from a reputable host. Good hosts for that $$ do exist, but they are scarce. LinkSky and apparently ValuableHost are the only ones that come to my mind right away. I don't know how well their support is, but apparently from posts on this board it's good. :)

Hmm, you could be right or wrong :) 50% each way :(

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP :angry:

If you read the end of his post, you will see

LinkSky and apparently ValuableHost are the only ones that come to my mind right away. I don't know how well their support is, but apparently from posts on this board it's good.

It means you seems to have good support, not means to bring you down.

:beer:

I understand that, but i am still disgusted at the way people think in general about hosts that offer cheap hosting :(

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP :angry:
Originally posted by HostAB.com
If you read the end of his post, you will see



It means you seems to have good support, not means to bring you down.

:beer:

Exp... It's kinda a common sense rule... Don't be suprised people think like that after all the TacidBlue's etc...

Originally posted by Hostexp
I understand that, but i am still disgusted at the way people think in general about hosts that offer cheap hosting :(

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP :angry:


Well, I am hosted with valuablehost. Although they are 'inexpensive' they do offer features comparable service to other more expensive host. A plus side to valuablehost is that their support is REALLY 24/7 (well.. almost) and I am getting live support through ICQ.

One reason certain host can offer 'less expensive' packages is maybe because the company is located in other countries where after conversion, they make reasonable money in terms of their own currency. I think the most expensive part of a hosting company is the cost of hiring staff... if you can beat that, you can offer cheaper service.

Well, you cant call common-sense, as it isn't, and common sense, would be something that generally is :(

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP :angry:
Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
Exp... It's kinda a common sense rule... Don't be suprised people think like that after all the TacidBlue's etc...

Originally posted by Hostexp
I understand that, but i am still disgusted at the way people think in general about hosts that offer cheap hosting :(

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP :angry:



Ditto.

It's the dark side of the notion that "you get what you pay for". As a first step toward popular redemption, perhaps the work "cheap" should be permanently replaced with the phrase "cost effective".

Joseph at LinkSky

I agree with you there :D

Cost effective may sound better to some people's ears :)

Also thanks for the post ngaihua, i agree with you joesph!
Originally posted by JoeM



Ditto.

It's the dark side of the notion that "you get what you pay for". As a first step toward popular redemption, perhaps the work "cheap" should be permanently replaced with the phrase "cost effective".

Joseph at LinkSky

Originally posted by Hostexp
I agree with you there :D

Cost effective may sound better to some people's ears :)

Also thanks for the post ngaihua, i agree with you joesph!



Thanks! I am logging this in my diary. "Dear Diary, someone has agreed with me at webhostingtalk.com." :)

BTW, when I said "replace the work cheap", I meant to say "replace the word cheap".

The service is cost effective, I do happen to work cheap. So that was an incredibly accurate Fraduian slip. :rolleyes:

hehe same here!
Originally posted by JoeM



Thanks! I am logging this in my diary. "Dear Diary, someone has agreed with me at webhostingtalk.com." :)

BTW, when I said "replace the work cheap", I meant to say "replace the word cheap".

The service is cost effective, I do happen to work cheap. So that was an incredibly accurate Fraduian slip. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Hostexp
Maybe your just saying that because you can't afford to offer low price hosting :eek: :eek:

I don't know if that was meant to be a joke or not, but that is clearly not what I stressed in my post.

I clearly stated to the poster that he/she should simply be careful when choosing a low-priced web host. If you have been here long enough, you would know that there have been hundreds of people who were burned by low prices. Did I say that every low-priced host is bad? No. I said that he/she should be CAREFUL when choosing a host.

And in regards to the fact that "I can't afford to offer low priced hosting", yes, you are correct. I cannot afford to charge $6.66 a month with so much transfer and turn a profit. Look at the costs for web hosting. Getting transfer for under $1/GB is quite infrequent, and if you ran your own NOC, you would know that $1/GB is far from the usual costs. Then, you need to pay for employees, servers, routers, support lines, land leases, electricity, etc.

How can you possibly turn a profit after paying for all of that? That is, if you aren't a "hobby" host who may just quit after six months and leave your customers to rot because you are frusterated when you don't turn a profit.

Note: I am sorry if this sounds like a shot at you personally ... I do not know you and I have no rights to rip you up. But you angered me with that post. I do not appreciate you taking a cheap shot at the company that I represent simply because I am warning someone of the dangers of choosing a web host.

Hey,
The other country thing is very true.
US based hosts will find it hard offering a $6/month package with so much features because the workload will be intense while they are making $1-3k or break even a month, in 6-8 months , they will get burnt out.


But.. If you live in another country like russia, making $1-3k is AWESOME becaues their monthly average wage is $100

Good thinking there, never thought about it like that :)

At an average monthly wage of $100... how could they afford a computer or anything with technology that way? Would they even offer internet... if it was it'd have to be under $4/month.

Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
At an average monthly wage of $100... how could they afford a computer or anything with technology that way? Would they even offer internet... if it was it'd have to be under $4/month.

The don't come on the internet :-)
You are seeing just a small minority of them, most of these people get their accounts by working at an ISP , or swiping them, or getting something real cheap like $4 :)

Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
Would they even offer internet... if it was it'd have to be under $4/month.

From ~ $0.5 up to $2 (in my city) - per hour.
How do you like this prices? :D

I do understand your country point... but I believe HostExp is from Australia, and it's more expensive to live there then in the USA.

You should of been able to tell it was a joke :D

:eek:
Originally posted by Vincent Paglione


I don't know if that was meant to be a joke or not, but that is clearly not what I stressed in my post.

I clearly stated to the poster that he/she should simply be careful when choosing a low-priced web host. If you have been here long enough, you would know that there have been hundreds of people who were burned by low prices. Did I say that every low-priced host is bad? No. I said that he/she should be CAREFUL when choosing a host.

And in regards to the fact that "I can't afford to offer low priced hosting", yes, you are correct. I cannot afford to charge $6.66 a month with so much transfer and turn a profit. Look at the costs for web hosting. Getting transfer for under $1/GB is quite infrequent, and if you ran your own NOC, you would know that $1/GB is far from the usual costs. Then, you need to pay for employees, servers, routers, support lines, land leases, electricity, etc.

How can you possibly turn a profit after paying for all of that? That is, if you aren't a "hobby" host who may just quit after six months and leave your customers to rot because you are frusterated when you don't turn a profit.

Note: I am sorry if this sounds like a shot at you personally ... I do not know you and I have no rights to rip you up. But you angered me with that post. I do not appreciate you taking a cheap shot at the company that I represent simply because I am warning someone of the dangers of choosing a web host.

Hmm vincent, i am not going to enter into a argument with you, keep your argument for yourself. Also living in Australia is not expensive as well, especially when your well funded.

Regarding internet connection, cable 512Kbps UP is only $80 AUD/monthly around $40USD.

Vincent good luck :D

Not a terrible Cable rate... but I was talking abotu life in general. Making $1k a month around a community that averages $100/month would be great... but making $1k/month around a community that mkaes 3-4K/month is pretty bad.

Who says i dont make 3-4k :D

As i said i have money, and i am well funded, so cost of living isnt much at all to me.

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP

Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
Not a terrible Cable rate... but I was talking abotu life in general. Making $1k a month around a community that averages $100/month would be great... but making $1k/month around a community that mkaes 3-4K/month is pretty bad.

Originally posted by Hostexp
Who says i dont make 3-4k :D

As i said i have money, and i am well funded, so cost of living isnt much at all to me.

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP


3-4K after 1 month? Damn! how do you do that?
you need at least 504 customer of your biggest account

Not really, 50x 59.95 = $2997.5 :) etc..

You guys seem to jump the gun, these are specials and will not stay for longer then this month :)


Originally posted by Jedito

3-4K after 1 month? Damn! how do you do that?
you need at least 504 customer of your biggest account

I'm not jumping the gun.
I just try to figure out, how do you get 50 Customers monthly with 1 month in business.

I have near 50 after 3 month!
Maybe I can learn from you.

Try to lower your prices :D you can ask my upstream provider if you dont believe me. Your not jumping the gun, your just joining the majority side. Anyway i'm not taking part in this thread anymore, its none of business, i think i better lower my prices for your sake :)

:D
Originally posted by Jedito
I'm not jumping the gun.
I just try to figure out, how do you get 50 Customers monthly with 1 month in business.

I have near 50 after 3 month!
Maybe I can learn from you.

I can't lower my prices if I want any profit or if I dont want to play a tooooo risky game.

Only cable I found there was around $75/month... 399 setup if you don't want a very Long time contract... and it was 512 Down, 128 Up. Anything over 3gigs/month is $180/gig!!!

No not really, www.optushome.com.au :D
Originally posted by Get-Hosted.com
Only cable I found there was around $75/month... 399 setup if you don't want a very Long time contract... and it was 512 Down, 128 Up. Anything over 3gigs/month is $180/gig!!!

Originally posted by Hostexp
You should of been able to tell it was a joke :D

:eek:

There is a time to joke and a time not to joke. Typing posts on the Internet cannot show that you either have an angry emotion or you are laughing the entire time.

Hmm, well i think i'm taking up a new campaign, 'Hosts that charge expensive rates, dont provide good support & server'.

Thats my new campaign :D

I don't really care anymore, its your view, you can practice it whether you like or not. Its none of my business.

Good Luck :D


Originally posted by Vincent Paglione


There is a time to joke and a time not to joke. Typing posts on the Internet cannot show that you either have an angry emotion or you are laughing the entire time.

Originally posted by Hostexp
Hmm vincent, i am not going to enter into a argument with you, keep your argument for yourself. Also living in Australia is not expensive as well, especially when your well funded.

Regarding internet connection, cable 512Kbps UP is only $80 AUD/monthly around $40USD.

Vincent good luck :D

My intent was not to start an argument, it was to point out the facts of my original post. The fact is, I clearly stated that not all low-priced web hosts are bad, just that some have had a track record here on WHT of folding or stealing from their customers. I told the poster to be CAREFUL when choosing one, that is all. If you are running a legitimate company, you would have nothing to worry about because of my post. Only those who are planning to fold after they get 50 credit card numbers.

Wait, I am missing a big part of this thread. HostEXP, are you hosting your customers on a cable modem???

A cable modem? are you out of your mind? we were talking about the costs of living in Australia, i am NOT hosting anything off a cable modem, my servers are on the yipes backbone, www.yipes.com. Do a traceroute, yipes won the award from webhosting magazine for noc of the year. I have my own dedicated servers. Read the thread properly. lol.

:D

Hello All

Valuablehost has a dedicted server with us. We have a direct connection Yipes and his server is on that backbone. A simple trace route would prove that.

My company oversees the servers and his server is in our rack....

Valuablehost is owned by AKA HostExp...

This will just clarify that.

I recommend not assuming things until you have done your due diligence, and insisting false information about a company is not good form...

Thanks

Joe
President
INTENSEinfo.com

Originally posted by Hostexp
A cable modem? are you out of your mind? we were talking about the costs of living in Australia, i am NOT hosting anything off a cable modem, my servers are on the yipes backbone, www.yipes.com.

Good. I was reading the last few posts and I was seeing you guys discussing cable modem prices. At first I thought that you were discussing how much it would cost you to just connect to the Internet, but then when you mentioned something like "that is how I can offer such low prices", I had to ask so that you could clarify it . . . someone who just stopped by the thread might see it and automatically assume that you hosted people on cable modems . . . it's best that it is clarified, especially when people search for you later on. :)

I have my own dedicated servers.

I apologize for asking ... I certainly was not looking to ruin your name ... just looking to set the facts straight for those who weren't following the entire thread.

Read the thread properly. lol.

Hehe ... I would have, but I have been up to my neck in work lately that I don't have much time to read through every post. Besides, everytime I get the chance to look through WHT, I am either rushed or it is 1 A.M. :)

Originally posted by JBIZ718
This will just clarify that.

I recommend not assuming things until you have done your due diligence, and insisting false information about a company is not good form...

Whoooooaaaaa! If I came off sounding like I was trying to bash you or the way you structure your pricing, I sincerely apologize! That was the exact opposite of my intent.

Good luck to you with your business ... and once again, I apologize for sending out the wrong message. :erm:

BTW: This message was aimed at HostEXP, but since JBIZ718 pointed out my mishap, I replied to that message.

OK... no harm done... simple mistakes.

Now... what was this topic about?

Originally posted by JBIZ718
I recommend not assuming things until you have done your due diligence, and insisting false information about a company is not good form...

Joe, note that Vincent *asked* a question (he didn't assume nor insist (?) anything. Anyway, I think it is all cleared up now, but some people seem to be taking comments/questions posted by Vincent the wrong way.

Well, thank you everyone, especially chicken for clarifying.

Vincent, please accept my apologies on this matter, it was late when i was reading these threads (Aus time) and i took it all wrongly.

Again, please accept my apologies.

Kindest Regards,
HostEXP

Chicken,

I snuck out of my original "WHT Posting" training class, so I might have missed some important information. ;)

HostExp,

Apology accepted. :)

LinkSky.com is my host for 4 sites. I'm very satisfied with them.